Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread Scott in Pollock 
On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-7, @lbutlr wrote:
>
> This will change the modification date for every clipping file in the 
> folder, pretty sure. 
>

Nope... it will only run on files that are *added* to the folder, when they 
are added. 

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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread @lbutlr 
On 9 May 2019, at 10:58, Scott in Pollock  wrote:
> I just created this folder action and assign it to my clippings folders. 
> Issued solved (and "Automated" thanks to Sal... too bad Apple let him go).
> 
> 

This will change the modification date for every clipping file in the folder, 
pretty sure.

Something like

tell app "Finder"
  if file type of (file theFile as alias) is not "TEXT" then 
set file type of (file theFIle as alias) to "TEXT"
  end if
end tell

Might be better?

(untested)


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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread @lbutlr 
On 9 May 2019, at 10:11, @lbutlr  wrote:
> I suppose I can just make a service in automator?

This is what I ended up with as an Automator Action:




The issue so far is that .mkv files (and some others like ppt) show up as 
documents I can open in BBEdit, even if I add a condition "File extension is 
not mkv" or "File extension is not .mkv" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread @lbutlr 
On 9 May 2019, at 09:12, Sam Hathaway  wrote:
> Another possible solution: BBEdit ships with a Service called “Open File in 
> BBEdit”. You can set a keybinding for it in the Keyboard prefpane (I use ⌘⌥B) 
> and use that to open any file in BBEdit, regardless of file extension or 
> other metadata.

This is what I do, though I haven't bothered to set a key combination for it. 
IO *would* like it if BBEdit showed up in the Mojave Preview pane actions but I 
suppose I can just make a service in automator?

Erm.. and Action in Automator. I'm never going to get uso that.


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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread Scott in Pollock 
On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 6:16:52 AM UTC-7, Rich Siegel wrote:
>
> The legacy file system APIs which explicitly supported HFS file 
> type and creator still work for the moment, but are deprecated. 


 LOL... Ok, maybe "supported" was the wrong word. "Still works" was 
probably more appropriate.

On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 8:12:52 AM UTC-7, Sam Hathaway wrote:
>
> Another possible solution: … Hope this helps!
>

Oddly enough, the CFBundleTypeOSTypes key istill remains in BBEdit's 
Info.plist, they are just not writing the attribute to newly created files. 
But if the file does have the attribute, it will open in BBEdit. Easily set 
with one line of AppleScript:

*tell* *application* "Finder" *to* *set* file type *of* ((*POSIX file* 
"/Users/ss/Desktop/test") *as* *alias*) *to* "TEXT" 


Thanks,

-SiP

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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread Sam Hathaway 

On 9 May 2019, at 9:16, Rich Siegel wrote:

To solve your problem: if you want to make new clippings that will 
open in BBEdit when you double-click them in the Finder, give them a 
".txt" extension.


Another possible solution: BBEdit ships with a Service called “Open 
File in BBEdit”. You can set a keybinding for it in the Keyboard 
prefpane (I use ⌘⌥B) and use that to open _any_ file in BBEdit, 
regardless of file extension or other metadata.


But also: I’ve managed to make “bare” files (no extension or other 
metadata) open in BBEdit with a double-click. For example, I just used 
`touch ~/Desktop/bare_file` in the Terminal to create such a file, and 
then double-clicked it in the Finder; BBEdit opened.


Such files have a [Uniform Type 
Identifier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Type_Identifier) of 
`public.data`, and using a utility like 
[RCDefaultApp](http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/) you can 
set the default application for that UTI. (I’ve found that this can 
sometimes succeed where using “Change All…” in the Get Info window 
fails.)


Hope this helps!
-sam

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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread Rich Siegel 
On 5/9/19 at 4:36 AM, scottinpoll...@gmail.com (Scott in 
Pollock) wrote:


Not to be argumentative, but to be clear… the OS still 
supports it (always has).


No, you're obviously being argumentative. :-)

There are various places in which the OS *allows* the 
specification and description of four-character type and creator 
codes in various places. This does not mean that they are *supported*.


The legacy file system APIs which explicitly supported HFS file 
type and creator still work for the moment, but are deprecated. 
Their replacements (which BBEdit 12.5 and later are using) 
explicitly do *not* include support for the legacy HFS type and 
creator codes.


Moreover, the HFS *creator* code would have mattered once upon a 
time, but the OS launch services (which is what the Finder uses 
to decide which application opens a given file) ignore the HFS 
creator code.


It's not subject to interpretation or appeal.

It's time to forget about HFS type and creator, thank them for 
their service, and move on.


To solve your problem: if you want to make new clippings that 
will open in BBEdit when you double-click them in the Finder, 
give them a ".txt" extension.


Or you can use one of the other mechanisms available to open 
clippings without leaving BBEdit: use the Edit button in the 
Clippings palette, or hold down the Option key while choosing a 
clipping from the menu (which is working again in 12.6.4, betas 
of which have been posted on this list).


There are many aspects of the old ways which were arguably 
better than the current ways; but I find that railing against 
the march of progress is generally better at producing carbon 
dioxide than it is at producing results. :-)


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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-09 Thread Scott in Pollock 
On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 2:58:03 PM UTC-7, Patrick Woolsey wrote:
>
> Because the OS hasn't supported them for many years. 
>
>
Not to be argumentative, but to be clear… the OS still supports it (always 
has). This includes the Finder and Nav Services. Just because a file 
extension takes precedence doesn't mean it isn't supported. The Info.plist 
key is:

 CFBundleTypeOSTypes
 
TEXT
 

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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-08 Thread Patrick Woolsey 

On 5/8/19 at 5:58 PM, pwool...@barebones.com (Patrick Woolsey) wrote:


On 5/8/19 at 5:43 PM, scottinpoll...@gmail.com (Scott in Pollock) wrote:


Why would you yank [type/creator codes] from BBEdit?


Because the OS hasn't supported them for many years.



I should perhaps also note that we made the relevant change in 
BBEdit quite some time ago.



Regards,

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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-08 Thread Patrick Woolsey 
On 5/8/19 at 5:43 PM, scottinpoll...@gmail.com (Scott in Pollock) wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 4:01:24 AM UTC-7, Rich Siegel wrote:
> >
> > BBEdit doesn't set HFS file type/creator anymore. (I don't 
> > remember when I made this change.) 
> 
> 
> Bummer. I know it is pre-OS Xish, but the masses revolted when Apple 
> attempted to discontinue support for it. 

Not exactly, but that's a matter for Mac history forums, not here. :-)

> Why would you yank it from BBEdit?

Because the OS hasn't supported them for many years.


Regards,

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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-08 Thread Scott in Pollock 
On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 4:01:24 AM UTC-7, Rich Siegel wrote:
>
> BBEdit doesn't set HFS file type/creator anymore. (I don't 
> remember when I made this change.) 


 Bummer. I know it is pre-OS Xish, but the masses revolted when Apple 
attempted to discontinue support for it. Why would you yank it from BBEdit?

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Re: Missing "TYPE" code...

2019-05-08 Thread Rich Siegel 
On 5/7/19 at 2:18 AM, scottinpoll...@gmail.com (Scott in 
Pollock) wrote:


I am not sure just when this started, but in 12.6.3 (under a 
fresh install of Hi-C Error) I am seeing that Type & Creator 
codes are not being set in newly created documents.


BBEdit doesn't set HFS file type/creator anymore. (I don't 
remember when I made this change.)


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