Re: Dual-licensing potential?

2009-01-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 02:19:05 David Ellingsworth wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Paul Harris p...@whotookspaz.org wrote:
  Hello there,
 
  I was wondering if it would be at all possible for the developers of b43 to
  consider dual licensing the drivers, so
  that users of other UNIX systems could benefit from them (in particular as
  part of the kernel). Obviously, as they're
  not BSD-licensed, they can't be integrated into any BSD kernel, which is a
  real shame, since this
  makes wireless connectivity on a lot of machines impossible. At best, I'd
  like to ask for the code to be released
  under both licenses, but if this isn't a possibility I'd hope it would at
  least be possible for special permission
  to be given allowing the drivers to be BSD-licensed for integration into the
  FreeBSD kernel only (the blue pill.)
  Thanks for your consideration.
 
 More than likely, this is not going to happen. Broadcom has made it
 extremely difficult to develop these drivers and last I heard the
 developers weren't too adamant about providing a path whereby Broadcom
 could take advantage of their efforts without contributing back to the
 community. If you search archives, you'll see there's plenty of
 tension around licensing the code under a BSD style license. *cough*
 bcm *cough*

Please don't spread clearly incorrect statements like these.

I am willing to relicense parts of the driver on a per-case base. I said that
more than once. Please contact me and the other copyright holders _BEFORE_ you
take the code.
So you show me the lines you want, and we decide whether you get permission or 
not.

Everything I said in this thread:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-wirelessm=117571766928130w=2
still applies.

Besides that, you might want to contact the DragonFly people, which are
developing a BSD licensed BCM driver from scratch.

-- 
Greetings, Michael.
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Re: Dual-licensing potential?

2009-01-13 Thread David Ellingsworth
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Paul Harris p...@whotookspaz.org wrote:
 Hello there,

 I was wondering if it would be at all possible for the developers of b43 to
 consider dual licensing the drivers, so
 that users of other UNIX systems could benefit from them (in particular as
 part of the kernel). Obviously, as they're
 not BSD-licensed, they can't be integrated into any BSD kernel, which is a
 real shame, since this
 makes wireless connectivity on a lot of machines impossible. At best, I'd
 like to ask for the code to be released
 under both licenses, but if this isn't a possibility I'd hope it would at
 least be possible for special permission
 to be given allowing the drivers to be BSD-licensed for integration into the
 FreeBSD kernel only (the blue pill.)
 Thanks for your consideration.

More than likely, this is not going to happen. Broadcom has made it
extremely difficult to develop these drivers and last I heard the
developers weren't too adamant about providing a path whereby Broadcom
could take advantage of their efforts without contributing back to the
community. If you search archives, you'll see there's plenty of
tension around licensing the code under a BSD style license. *cough*
bcm *cough*

Regards,

David Ellingsworth
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Re: Dual-licensing potential?

2009-01-13 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 23:09 +, Paul Harris wrote:
 Hello there,
 
 I was wondering if it would be at all possible for the developers of
 b43 to consider dual licensing the drivers, so  
 that users of other UNIX systems could benefit from them (in
 particular as part of the kernel). Obviously, as they're
 not BSD-licensed, they can't be integrated into any BSD kernel, which
 is a real shame, since this 
 makes wireless connectivity on a lot of machines impossible. At best,
 I'd like to ask for the code to be released 
 under both licenses, but if this isn't a possibility I'd hope it would
 at least be possible for special permission 
 to be given allowing the drivers to be BSD-licensed for integration
 into the FreeBSD kernel only (the blue pill.) 

I would really dislike seeing that happen.  A BSD license would allow
others to take the great (but incomplete) work done here, expand upon it
and not give back, providing them with more (possibly closed)
functionality than the original authors have.  That completely
invalidates the spirit of FOSS IMHO.

b.


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