Re: Dornachian reactions?
Mr. Lovel, what radionic instrument do you recommend??? I will have time to work with it this season...sstorch ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
European preps (was Re: Dornachian reactions?)
I would like to obtain some 'official' European preps please, that I can work up into homeopathics. At least save the ones that are there now for the future. Where does one buy them?? Glen - 'Official' preps can be bought in UK from Biodynamic Supplies (Paul van Midden), Lorieneen, Bridge of Muchalls, Stonehaven, Aberdeen (Scotland), AB39 3RU. fax 44 1569 731746. Tony N-S. _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: C Timings
You are one who is well versed in the ancient ways. So what you saying is you know your own brain and how fast it can move. Unlike some people who do not know whether they are in Kansas any more, you know when to keep your feet on the ground. Peace Eric On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 09:09 AM, Turtle Bend wrote: I'm finding this defining and pointing clearly were the whirl wind is in my personal, local world touch. L*L Markess - from ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: European preps (was Re: Dornachian reactions?)
Thanks Tony GA BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: Tony Nelson-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: European preps (was Re: Dornachian reactions?) I would like to obtain some 'official' European preps please, that I can work up into homeopathics. At least save the ones that are there now for the future. Where does one buy them?? Glen - 'Official' preps can be bought in UK from Biodynamic Supplies (Paul van Midden), Lorieneen, Bridge of Muchalls, Stonehaven, Aberdeen (Scotland), AB39 3RU. fax 44 1569 731746. Tony N-S. _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?
Graeme Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional preps. They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves from their members and the wider BD community, yet maintain relevance because of their trademark and its apparant value. The fact is trademarks are near on irrelevant anyway. The real practise they are supporting is garbage ( check out NZ BD apple production - 28 Lime Sulphurs a season) and so its a matter of time till they are dead. Discussion hear in NZ is post organic registration quality based trademarks. The search is on for relevant quality parameters, regardless of the production method. eg SFW tests for soil, brix and chromas etc The present organisations are basically corrupt. Here in NZ, one or two old council members protested a fellow members right to be elected onto council because of 'conflict of interest', as he worked part time with me. Somehow it seems I am working against the economic good of Biodynamics.? In the US we have the 'biodynamic' ownership debacle. In Australia we have Podolinsky setting up his kingdom, in Europe we have them suggesting illegal actions Who do these people think they are, and sadly they seem to believe they are beyond reproach or criticism. While they controlled the BD media they were, now they dont and so they are not. Seems the best they can do is stay away from the forum and keep their heads in the sand. Their choice. Good luck to them and good luck to the free thinkers who look at all the options, apply them to their properties and prosper. The reality is this list offers biodynamics without limitations. Pick up what you want and go for it. Aquarian anarchy. Yahoo. GA BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: Resonant Info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? If your interest is in biodynamics, you may be wondering if you are subscribed to the right group! Despite the numerous claims to the contrary that you may read on the BDNow group, biodynamics is thriving, here in Australia at least. People are using the real preps, as described and recommended by Rudolf Steiner, as practised for decades all over the world. Although some think this is some kind of old school, bogged down and in decay, it is still a living culture. If you are interested in agriculture, biodynamics, growing food for people to help in the recovery of the Earth, seek it out. If you are interested in subtle energies, radionics, homoeopathic dilutions and such, there is a lot of very interesting information to be found on this list. It would be great if we could get above the contemptible slagging that goes on about the other and keep the focus on the many practical and helpful suggestions people have. regards all, Graeme Gerrard -- ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?
Graeme Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional preps. They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves from their members and the wider BD community, yet maintain relevance because of their trademark and its apparant value. well said Glen - you've captured my 'attitude' nicely! Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?
Graeme Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional preps. They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves from their members and the wider BD community, yet maintain relevance because of their trademark and its apparant value. The fact is trademarks are near on irrelevant anyway. The real practise they are supporting is garbage ( check out NZ BD apple production - 28 Lime Sulphurs a season) and so its a matter of time till they are dead. Discussion hear in NZ is post organic registration quality based trademarks. The search is on for relevant quality parameters, regardless of the production method. eg SFW tests for soil, brix and chromas etc The present organisations are basically corrupt. Here in NZ, one or two old council members protested a fellow members right to be elected onto council because of 'conflict of interest', as he worked part time with me. Somehow it seems I am working against the economic good of Biodynamics.? In the US we have the 'biodynamic' ownership debacle. In Australia we have Podolinsky setting up his kingdom, in Europe we have them suggesting illegal actions Who do these people think they are, and sadly they seem to believe they are beyond reproach or criticism. While they controlled the BD media they were, now they dont and so they are not. Seems the best they can do is stay away from the forum and keep their heads in the sand. Their choice. Good luck to them and good luck to the free thinkers who look at all the options, apply them to their properties and prosper. The reality is this list offers biodynamics without limitations. Pick up what you want and go for it. Aquarian anarchy. Yahoo. GA BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: Resonant Info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? If your interest is in biodynamics, you may be wondering if you are subscribed to the right group! Despite the numerous claims to the contrary that you may read on the BDNow group, biodynamics is thriving, here in Australia at least. People are using the real preps, as described and recommended by Rudolf Steiner, as practised for decades all over the world. Although some think this is some kind of old school, bogged down and in decay, it is still a living culture. If you are interested in agriculture, biodynamics, growing food for people to help in the recovery of the Earth, seek it out. If you are interested in subtle energies, radionics, homoeopathic dilutions and such, there is a lot of very interesting information to be found on this list. It would be great if we could get above the contemptible slagging that goes on about the other and keep the focus on the many practical and helpful suggestions people have. regards all, Graeme Gerrard -- ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?
Dear Hugh Thanks for an interesting note - your mexican friend is obviously enjoying his success. I think the major problem with the old guard in Australia was one of communication (lack of it) , that disenchanted farmer that I quoted said " Alex wont address the problem", it should havebeen up to the farmer himself to recognise the problem in its early stages and to do something positive about it himself, and after twenty or so years as a practicing, certified, Biodynamic producer he should have been equipped to do that without needing to call on the services of the master. Striving for certification is part of the problem - there are rewards for organic certified produce - but I think only isolated opportunities for further premiums (above organic) from Demeterand then only for restricted quantities and specific situations. Our newer (Biodynamic Agriculture) organisation has taken a more open and educational position and many farmers are learning to do things for themselves.There will be more mistakes made for sure, but learning always involves mistakes. If the traditionalists manage to take over that organisation (and its likely, politics being what it is ) then there are enough of us free thinking loonies on the outside to carry things forward whatever happens. I believe that homeopathic remedies and what I term low level radionics - field broadcasters, potentiser instruments, (and probably some of the paper based systems), combined with dowsing and basic soil remineralising are the way of the future for agriculture. Energy farming! I sure have met some interesting people in the last few years! Cheers all Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?
Mr. Lovel, what radionic instrument do you recommend??? I will have time to work with it this season...sstorch ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow Dear Steve, I recommend whatever one or ones you feel at ease and in good humor working with. I've found both the Hieronymus type (using variable capaticance and rates) and the Malcolm Rae type (using variable inductance and cards) are effective in agriculture, though for my taste the Malcolm Rae type is more versatile. What is your sense of what you'd like? Don Mattioda up in Avon, CT by you makes very good Hieronymus types and so does Peter Kelly in Lakemont, GA by me. The Malcolm Rae types have to be ordered from England or Australia. Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.net ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?
Dear Hugh Thanks for an interesting note - your mexican friend is obviously enjoying his success. I think the major problem with the old guard in Australia was one of communication (lack of it) , that disenchanted farmer that I quoted said Alex wont address the problem, it should have been up to the farmer himself to recognise the problem in its early stages and to do something positive about it himself, and after twenty or so years as a practicing, certified, Biodynamic producer he should have been equipped to do that without needing to call on the services of the master. Lloyd, This is too, too right, and is one of the important differences between Cheryl and Hamish's group and Alex's. Cheryl and Hamish spur their farmers on to ever greater heights and though this makes them a bit dependent on the central leadership for ever more and better learning experiences, in the long run there is a wealth of very, very BD wise and capable farmers out there instead of one Guru. Striving for certification is part of the problem - there are rewards for organic certified produce - but I think only isolated opportunities for further premiums (above organic) from Demeter and then only for restricted quantities and specific situations. Our newer (Biodynamic Agriculture) organisation has taken a more open and educational position and many farmers are learning to do things for themselves. There will be more mistakes made for sure, but learning always involves mistakes. Again, too right. If you aren't making any mistakes you aren't learning anything, and you probably aren't even doing very much. If the traditionalists manage to take over that organisation (and its likely, politics being what it is ) Let's hope it takes them a while. But you're right that it is the way of organizations. Henry David Thoreau said, Just as when there is a lull in a storm a snowdrift piles up, when there is a lull in the truth an organization springs up. Best, Hugh then there are enough of us free thinking loonies on the outside to carry things forward whatever happens. I believe that homeopathic remedies and what I term low level radionics - field broadcasters, potentiser instruments, (and probably some of the paper based systems), combined with dowsing and basic soil remineralising are the way of the future for agriculture. Energy farming! I sure have met some interesting people in the last few years! Cheers all Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow Visit our website at: www.unionag.net ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
