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Moen Creek wrote:
This a posting curious given we are at the tail end of
Mercury's conjunction with Uranus. {%*)
Uranus is in opposition to Persephone, (the planet not asteroid) now as
well (early March, late September and keep an eye on January as Mars
Chiron and Athene all get in on the act as well. )
The Uranus Sqr 90 Persephone was in 1978 ish.. The planetary form of
that time is now being actively aspected by Pluto.
Definitely a great time to speak of consciousness issues.
Glen
Love Light
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Glen, I have no problem at all, with those who can, dealing direct with what ever level of information gathering. My point is that for many people, I can teach them to dowse with accuracy and verifiable (by another dowser) results. I for one, can not teach anyone to talk to Devas or what ever, in a couple of hours, but I can set some one on the path to dowsing in that time. Glen Atkinson wrote: Lloyd Charles wrote: More from the land of oz - I found this lurking uncompleted on My desktop - (Delete is just above the left cursor key if its too out of date) Gil Robertson wrote While one can undoubtable wait for devine revelation, if playing with a few acres in one situation, but if one is working with many properties, as Hugh and James are, there is a need to get accurate answers, quickly. In HAstings NZ last weekend I was chatting with Joke Bloksma from the Louis Bolk Institute in Holland, who is here seminaring on Geothean observation. I wish to honour her part in the stimulation of these words rather than quote our conversation. We were discussing the difference between direct perception and dowsing.
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Please read on. Glen Atkinson wrote: It is not that dowsing is bad so much as a starting place and that one needs to progress thru to the personal experience of the awareness as quickly as one can. Today while talking with someone about the inner nature of the 8 pointed star, I said I can give you an experience of the answer in 3 minutes or I can tell you the answer immediately.* There is a world of difference in the knowingness of the person from this choice. This process is just another muscle we need to exercise to get functioning. However the first step on the journey must be taken. Try directly receiving the answer first and then check it with dowsing. I sure this will speed the process up. That is great Glen! I am not as fluid with this as Sharon is -- like you suggest, she hears the answers and when working with checking for 300 or so vibrational essences to make a custom essence solution -- she will have the process complete in a matter of a couple minutes. Being more a dowser myself -- and not so quick in the intuitive as perhaps you and Sharon -- I use the pendulum to back up what I am hearing. I completely relied on the dowsing at first -- but now -- I find that I am hearing the answer before the pendulum swings -- just as you say. I believe that it is still important for folks who do not trust their intuition (hearing) to use some type of tool for communication. The tester may find that dowsing is good for them -- or maybe they will find that kinesiology is better -- whatever But these communication techniques are good for starting -- and with practice, a person will then begin hearing and trusting their intuition more. But -- the main thing is to learn that this level of consciousness exists and we need to use it in order that we work much closer to the Source. Peace. Wayne *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Sharon and Wayne McEachern http://www.LightExpression.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Divine Program for Healing and Transformation and Expressing the Light A Ministry Dedicated to the Divine Process *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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Hi! Glen/ James, I think you hijacked James' statement and tried to turn your self into some sort of victim. He was not as you suggesting you should feel threatened in the manner you practice, that which you do. James was taking about Field Broadcasters, which, by there very nature, are designed (if that is the term) and sited, using dowsing. They are also operated using dowsing, as dowsing allows a quick and reliable way of accessing information, which come from we know not where. Some need to climb a mountain and talk to a burning bush, some talk to the little people, but some of us choose to use a pendulum. While one can undoubtable wait for devine revelation, if playing with a few acres in one situation, but if one is working with many properties, as Hugh and James are, there is a need to get accurate answers, quickly. In my BioRegion, there are five and a half thousand farmers, each cropping two and a half to four thousand acres per man, as well as running stock. If we are to help some of them, we need the certainty and accuracy that dowsing affords. Gil Glen Atkinson wrote: James and Barbara Hedley wrote: How any body can use a field broadcaster without dowsing skills is beyond my comprehension Sincere regards James. Through conscious observation and understanding. Nothing personal James but as a good example this statement could also be How can any body use Biodynamics without dowsing skills is beyond my comphrehension
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Dear Hugh, Both Lloyd and I have found that the mixtures of reagents can change from day to day, let alone from year to year. As for dowsing it is an easily learnt skill as the participants at our dowsing workshops at Sattwa Park can testify to. How any body can use a field broadcaster without dowsing skills is beyond my comprehension Sincere regards James. - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI Dear Glen, et. al., Your post confirms what Lorraine has found. Mixes are often specific for the situation, time and weather circumstance. That's why we tailor our broadcaster reagents to each and every farm. And change them at a minimum of every year. So what we have found is the expertise rather than copying of remedies is the important thing. One has to be able to tell (Lorraine does this by dowsing) what potency of each remedy she puts on the reagent vials for our broadcasters. Commonly one farm is quite different from another. Best, Hugh Hugh, Alan, Gil and Chris Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I see the value in Hugh and Alans approaches and will work with them and see what I can do with them. Gils comments on 'unknowing messing around' are true to a point however dowsing and a radionics box could do some wild things. The uniqueness I see is in the original mixing for a specific task. This was a question that needed to be asked publically for the community to consider. While I have made general mixes of things, with our 'personal clients' the mixes are most often specific for the situation, time and weather circumstance. These would be silly to generally copy. I am sure there is a way forward, just in a different direction to that already travelled and that imagined to be travelled. Sounds like another bit of 'life' taking place. cheers Glen Chris Shade wrote: Glen has a good point, and frankly, I was surprised that Allan so openly suggested that. On the flip side, though, most people (who dont' already make some of their own preps), won't be in a position to make good copies of Glen and Greg's potencies. And if radionic theft is the issue, it would have always been the issue with any prep. You just have to figure that your market is those who aren't radionics or homeophath jockeys and who need some good preps. Wishing you market protection and good will from your community, Chris --- Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Balliett wrote: A question I have for everyone is Can't Greg's remedies be readily propagated infinitely? Since they are potentized, are they not now the 'mother' for endless batches of equal remedy? I would think they are, but I'd appreciate insights from you more experienced potentizers. Myself, I assume that once you buy a unit from Greg, if you don't spill it, you need never purchase another, but simply dose your own units from that point on. This does not necessarily hold to be true. Firstly these are compounds which when further potentised can change their effectiveness and secondly potentising develops in waves and so further potentising can indeed make them less effective. We have definitely found that reducing the desired application rate leads to reduced effect. 'Stealing them' thru a radionics device, without changing the potency should work within that sphere I guess. This is an opportune moment to bring a thought to this discussion. With Greg and my potencies ( and thus our lives work) being 'potentially' so easily stolen from us, what incentive is there for us to continue working on furthering preparation applications. Why would we bother? and how are our overheads and life expenses to be covered by the community benefiting so freely from our work? in anticipation of the solution Glen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
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Dear Glen, The question of radionic potencies being stolen from me has never entered my mind, however as you and Greg point out this is a possibility. However I think that the point of view which has surfaced on this list that you dont own something that is in the public domain. The number of people who use agricultural radionics is very few compared to the number of potential customers in conventional agriculture. Build your market by promoting yourself and your product into a far larger market than just BD practitioners The local area around here is renowned for the quality of their wines,and grapes. The going price for Mudgee grapes is somewhere about $1200 per tonne. biodynamic grapes bring $8000 per tonne with the result that there isa growing demand for BD preps and information. Stretch your horizons, increase your market and promote the specific skills which you have which can be applied to conventional agriculture. Farmers will change if there is something in it for them, we have a client growing 1100 acres of soybeans, amongst other farming activities. The use of BD preps with our custom prepared insect peppers and homoeopathic stock wormers has cut his chemical usage down from $1.5 million dollars to $200,000. Barbara and I will be going up there shortly to prepare 44,000 litres of spray for green vege bug, all prepared from insects on the place. A while ago you mentioned your thought that the insects needed to be taken from the place where they are to be used. So far the jury is out on that one, however I would say that as a general rule that you do not need to have the insects or pests off the property. What we have found is that the peppers need to be succussed after posting or if using diluted peppers they need to be ran through flow forms to re-energise them after transport as the radionic potencies sometimes get what I would call sick from travelling. SINCERE REGARDS James Hedley - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI Allan Balliett wrote: A question I have for everyone is Can't Greg's remedies be readily propagated infinitely? Since they are potentized, are they not now the 'mother' for endless batches of equal remedy? I would think they are, but I'd appreciate insights from you more experienced potentizers. Myself, I assume that once you buy a unit from Greg, if you don't spill it, you need never purchase another, but simply dose your own units from that point on. This does not necessarily hold to be true. Firstly these are compounds which when further potentised can change their effectiveness and secondly potentising develops in waves and so further potentising can indeed make them less effective. We have definitely found that reducing the desired application rate leads to reduced effect. 'Stealing them' thru a radionics device, without changing the potency should work within that sphere I guess. This is an opportune moment to bring a thought to this discussion. With Greg and my potencies ( and thus our lives work) being 'potentially' so easily stolen from us, what incentive is there for us to continue working on furthering preparation applications. Why would we bother? and how are our overheads and life expenses to be covered by the community benefiting so freely from our work? in anticipation of the solution Glen Dear Glen, As I have observed in the past, your expertise in developing and knowing the signs of what this and that potency do is your real strength. Once you make a remedy and put it on the market it is like a Michael Jackson CD, the Chinese will copy it with no payment of royalties. Since Greg is on the verge of acusing me of copying his potencies, I will no longer have anything to do with them, good though they are. The truth is they should be copied far and wide, and Greg needs to grow up. Everyone should copy them and enjoy! But Greg is trying to sell his weaknesses rather than his strengths, so I refuse to buy into his weaknesses. Let him carry these to the grave. Please figure out how to sell your strengths. No one can copy them. Tailor your remedies to each locality and kind of crop. Make making endless generation of most appropriate remedies your forte. Then you show up the copiers for their absurd lack of appropriatness. And encourage good copying, as this will make your reputation. Look at the fashion industry. All the knock-offs of Christian Dior, Robin Williams and so forth. It has made Christian Dior and Robin Williams wealthy. Go for it, dude. Best wishes, Hugh Lovel
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Hugh said: Please figure out how to sell your strengths. No one can copy them. Tailor your remedies to each locality and kind of crop. Make making endless generation of most appropriate remedies your forte. Then you show up the copiers for their absurd lack of appropriatness. And encourage good copying, as this will make your reputation. Look at the fashion industry. All the knock-offs of Christian Dior, Robin Williams and so forth. It has made Christian Dior and Robin Williams wealthy. Go for it, dude. Glen - I, too, have been fishing for similar words. You are your greatest strength. Your preps may make your name, but it is a relationship with you that is essential for growers to get the deeper effects or the individualized effects. Your 'voice,' your demeanor, your intelligence and presence all speak for one who knows much more than he is telling. I hope your confidence in yourself and your future financial relationships becomes strong enough that you have no fear of sharing what you have brought into the culture with everyone. -Allan
Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
Glen has a good point, and frankly, I was surprised that Allan so openly suggested that. On the flip side, though, most people (who dont' already make some of their own preps), won't be in a position to make good copies of Glen and Greg's potencies. And if radionic theft is the issue, it would have always been the issue with any prep. You just have to figure that your market is those who aren't radionics or homeophath jockeys and who need some good preps. Wishing you market protection and good will from your community, Chris --- Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Balliett wrote: A question I have for everyone is Can't Greg's remedies be readily propagated infinitely? Since they are potentized, are they not now the 'mother' for endless batches of equal remedy? I would think they are, but I'd appreciate insights from you more experienced potentizers. Myself, I assume that once you buy a unit from Greg, if you don't spill it, you need never purchase another, but simply dose your own units from that point on. This does not necessarily hold to be true. Firstly these are compounds which when further potentised can change their effectiveness and secondly potentising develops in waves and so further potentising can indeed make them less effective. We have definitely found that reducing the desired application rate leads to reduced effect. 'Stealing them' thru a radionics device, without changing the potency should work within that sphere I guess. This is an opportune moment to bring a thought to this discussion. With Greg and my potencies ( and thus our lives work) being 'potentially' so easily stolen from us, what incentive is there for us to continue working on furthering preparation applications. Why would we bother? and how are our overheads and life expenses to be covered by the community benefiting so freely from our work? in anticipation of the solution Glen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
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Hugh, Alan, Gil and Chris Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I see the value in Hugh and Alans approaches and will work with them and see what I can do with them. Gils comments on 'unknowing messing around' are true to a point however dowsing and a radionics box could do some wild things. The uniqueness I see is in the original mixing for a specific task. This was a question that needed to be asked publically for the community to consider. While I have made general mixes of things, with our 'personal clients' the mixes are most often specific for the situation, time and weather circumstance. These would be silly to generally copy. I am sure there is a way forward, just in a different direction to that already travelled and that imagined to be travelled. Sounds like another bit of 'life' taking place. cheers Glen Chris Shade wrote: Glen has a good point, and frankly, I was surprised that Allan so openly suggested that. On the flip side, though, most people (who dont' already make some of their own preps), won't be in a position to make good copies of Glen and Greg's potencies. And if radionic theft is the issue, it would have always been the issue with any prep. You just have to figure that your market is those who aren't radionics or homeophath jockeys and who need some good preps. Wishing you market protection and good will from your community, Chris --- Glen Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Balliett wrote: A question I have for everyone is Can't Greg's remedies be readily propagated infinitely? Since they are potentized, are they not now the 'mother' for endless batches of equal remedy? I would think they are, but I'd appreciate insights from you more experienced potentizers. Myself, I assume that once you buy a unit from Greg, if you don't spill it, you need never purchase another, but simply dose your own units from that point on. This does not necessarily hold to be true. Firstly these are compounds which when further potentised can change their effectiveness and secondly potentising develops in waves and so further potentising can indeed make them less effective. We have definitely found that reducing the desired application rate leads to reduced effect. 'Stealing them' thru a radionics device, without changing the potency should work within that sphere I guess. This is an opportune moment to bring a thought to this discussion. With Greg and my potencies ( and thus our lives work) being 'potentially' so easily stolen from us, what incentive is there for us to continue working on furthering preparation applications. Why would we bother? and how are our overheads and life expenses to be covered by the community benefiting so freely from our work? in anticipation of the solution Glen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
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In a message dated 2/23/02 9:02:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is an opportune moment to bring a thought to this discussion. With Greg and my potencies ( and thus our lives work) being 'potentially' so easily stolen from us, what incentive is there for us to continue working on furthering preparation applications. Why would we bother? and how are our overheads and life expenses to be covered by the community benefiting so freely from our work? in anticipation of the solution Glen Hold out and I will make you a stirring machine...sstorch
