Re: Ashing
Sorry about not picking up as a joke. I agree that humour is the best medicine and one does not need a prescription and seldom does one die of an over dose. Why I made the point was because I once helped a guy do some peppering, the timeing and process weremeticulously correct yet those little animals took not a blind bit of notice. All the way through the process feelings of hate and worse were expressed. Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Ashing and potentisation
James I would be interested in reading the paper Louise - Original Message - From: James Hedley To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Ashing and potentisation Dear Allan,Ashing is effective without having to potentise if you have enough material to spread. But when you wind up with a small amount of material and a large area to cover, potentisation is the only way to go. You have to collect a huge amount of aphids to pepper 50 acres of cabbage if you are going to try spreading it by hand. Equally difficult is to try and mix 25000 gallons of a pepper to be sprayed out by plane. That is the stage where we are with potentisation of peppers.The technique of ashing is proving effective in trials of large-scale weed and rabbit control. It is not possible to emphatically claim that it is the potentisation of the sum pattern of all the minerals, which makes the peppers effective, as it is equally impossible to emphatically declare how homeopathy works.Many researchers, veterinarians and farmers have shown that agricultural homeopathy is extremely effective. We don't have to reinvent the wheel. Why choose to go down the path of making things more difficult when potentisation has shown the substances to be as the term implies, they are more potent. What seems to be the problem is that many people have a resistance to using Radionic instruments in their farming.In the USA this resistance may derive from the persecution of Ruth Drown, and many others. You can bet that when the FDA is persecuting you that you have made it. Maybe there is hope for you farmers in America according to the results of an investigation by a panel of experts from the American Medical Association. The members of the panel have issued a paper that found that if you rebrand Radionics as Bio electromagnetism then the 100,000 illegal practitioners of radionics could be made legal because they are no longer using it. The name will be changed then it will be leading cutting edge in the USA. The panel found that there was irrefutable proof of the effectiveness of radionics. The paper tried to ascertain how Radionics worked, but it found that as 'Bio electromagnetism' it could be explained in existing physics.If there is anyone interested in the paper if you contact me off list I will send a copy, as it is about 20 pages. The panel consisted of both alternatives and Medical practitioners.James Hedley-Original Message-From: Allan Balliett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 26 May 2003 1:17 PMTo: Biodynamic Food and Farming DiscussionSubject: Re: Potentizing Diluting Peppers On the physical level, Peppers work with the mineral of a substance, which are accessed by ashing.I think Allan probably meant something different to what I have read intothis - but here goes anyway.Thanks for pointing out the discrepancies here, Lloyd.early on in my readings of AGRICULTURE it was drawn to my attentionthat peppering had long been a 'standard homeopathic practice.' Thehomeopaths who introduced me to this practice essentially said thatit works through the potentization of the sum-total of the mineralpattern of an organism. Astrology was left out of it, but these folkswere gleefully ridding their carpets of fleas and their kitchens ofroaches through the use of ashes. (Much as the Nazis sought to ridthe German forests of jews by scattering human ashes over them.)As a point of interest: I know many farmers who have removed pestsfrom their fields in short order through the use of peppers. To aperson, astrology has not been considered, quantities of pests havebeen ashed and, potentized or not potentized, applied with goodresults.This is certainly not to say that Steiner was wrong or that what thehomeopaths are doing is even the same thing as what Steiner is doing,but it is pointing to another - - and more accessible - - way to skina cat.Thanks again for drawing this out to avoid the creation of confusion.-Allan___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow Without emotion, man would be nothing but a biological computer. Love, joy,sorrow, fear, apprehension, anger,satisfaction, and discontent providethe meaning of human existence.Arnold M. Ludwig---1980 ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Ashing
From: Sarah Cherry Re: Ashing I honestly feel that the shift in intentionality which begins even as you prepare to ash has an effect on the way the creatures manifest in your environment. The devic realm knows what you want even before you toast the little buggers. Of course ! but for most of us thats not enough on its own. Also dont lets forget the reason they came in the first place - if we have sick soil or plants the clean up crew will come to fix that - hi brix crops will deter insects simply because their presence is not required. Around the farm if we have an untidy feed shed with spilt grain and old bags we invite the rats and mice, the physical is still a major part of it. Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
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even before you toast the little buggers. My experience has shown that making derogotive statments or thinking negetive thoughts about the organism to be treated is unhelpful. One is afterall communicating with their guiding being or Deva. How do you react when others ask you to do something after saying unpleasant things about you? Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: ashing
Moen Creek wrote: Perhaps special instructions for the snakes (most of the ones I have captured are 3 feet or more long. I will risk being improper and un-PC and suggest Eating them then urinating around your gardens. This works well for deer abatement even my wife uses a chamber pot in the spring to have enough to mark the gardens re-establish proper boundaries. Problem with eating them is that I am a vegetarian. Sometimes I do cook them for my brothers and friends. When I am in the wrong mood (carnivorous mode -- which is very, very rare) I can even break my usual diet and have a piece. But I don't think I'd like to make a habit of it :-) Now, the real problem is: I don't fear the snakes myself. But since my father was bitten (he is OK now) my relatives, friends and workers are frightned. I have no way to convince them that the snakes should survive. If for no other reason because they control the rats and mice. Once I turn my back they kill'em. I'd rather see them protected in a different perimeter than killed in the garden or even in the house. Tango Ombrei Porforvor as this gringo is want to say. Here we have Samba, homem, por favor. Regards - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9 S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6 W 19º 37' 57.0 S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6 W
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Allan Balliett wrote: PS But I, for one, don't think you need to pepper for your snakes. I think you need to investigate your bioregional biological interelationships and 'solve' your snake problem by maximizing diversity rather than 'reducing' it I couldn't agree more. Nevertheless, there is a problem most of us can not solve. Myself, for one. I am sorrounded by farmers who do everything the American Way: hybrids, pesticides, fungicides, heavy machines, chemical fertilizers you name it. If the big companies say it brings quick profit they will try it. Now, my little farm is (more os less) 1 km x 0.2 km. How can I prevent the envenoming of little animals that go back and forth among the farms. Birds that eat snakes, for instance. They tend to be big and walk (or fly) long distances. Like the ema (rhea) who I have not seen for several years now. Even the sariema (a much smaller rhea) is much less common than it used to be. So, the fact is that securing a bioregional biological interelationship is much harder than it seems at first sight. It does not seem you can convince most people that every single form of life on Earth should have a fair chance to manifest itself and live its destiny. Let alone convince them that this is even profitable! - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9 S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6 W 19º 37' 57.0 S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6 W
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Cow shit or fish guts and breath deeply. Barbara and Woody Aurora Farm is the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: ashing In a message dated 1/8/02 10:26:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SStorch: That was Barbara and Woody advice, and in fact Barbara's initiative. Woodyh well dip me in shit...sstorch
Re: ashing
Incidentally, if you don't have a plague of foxes then you probably don't know that they get into your raised beds and dig GREAT BIG HOLES (looking for something they think is in there to eat, I assume) If you plant small patches for diveristy, they can destroy an entire crop overnight. They also trample things (again, looking for prey) and, as inexpicable as it is, dig tunnels into the little mountain of rock dust we have here. (American wire fence going up around the garden before this coming growing season) -Allan PS Yes, and they've eaten almost a hundred chickens this yearbut if they catch that damned weasel, they might be worth having around! ;-) So, the fact is that securing a bioregional biological interelationship is much harder than it seems at first sight. It does not seem you can convince most people that every single form of life on Earth should have a fair chance to manifest itself and live its destiny. Let alone convince them that this is even profitable! Fernando - I understand what you are saying. What I am hearing from permaculture people and from some biodynamic people - - from their experience, btw, and not from conjecture, is, essentially 'build it and they will come.' I'm assuming that what we will eventually find out is that the ramifications of the soil foodweb are much broader than we currently area aware and that when a healthy soil micorbiology is re-established, it effects the higher animals in ways that we have not yet quantified. I, my friend, have fox troubles. It's hard for me to wish for the biological solution for foxes (essentially hungry wolves), but I will not resort to ashinging because ashing 'creates a hole' and that could not be in my best interest: whether it is filled or goes unfilled! -Allan
Re: ashing
Allan Balliett wrote: (American wire fence going up around the garden before this coming growing season) Let me tell you, if they are as smart there as they are here, they will find a way to dig a tunnel under your American wire fence... - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9 S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6 W 19º 37' 57.0 S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6 W
Re: ashing
My experience is that foxes are especially numerous this year, as are weasels. Probably to highlight the burgeoning political atrocities, similar in energy. Essie At 08:48 AM 1/9/02 -0300, you wrote: Allan Balliett wrote: (American wire fence going up around the garden before this coming growing season) Let me tell you, if they are as smart there as they are here, they will find a way to dig a tunnel under your American wire fence... - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9 S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6 W 19º 37' 57.0 S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6 W
Re: ashing
Let me tell you, if they are as smart there as they are here, they will find a way to dig a tunnel under your American wire fence... - fernando Yes, fernando. That sort of narrows it down, doesn't it? -Allan
Agnihotra was Re: ashing
You can find out more info on agnihotra and HOMA therapy or checkout the SATSANG publication at http://www.agnihotra.com -Allan from those pages: What is HOMA THERAPY ? Homa is a Sanskrit word used here synonymously with Yajnya. Yajnya is the technical term from the Vedic science of bioenergy denoting the process of removing the toxic conditions of the atmosphere through the agency of fire. You heal the atmosphere and the healed atmosphere heals you. This is the central idea in Homa Therapy. Yajnya replenishes the nutrients that pollution robs from our environment. Homa Therapy is totally a revealed science. It is as old as creation. In the course of time this knowledge was lost but it is now being resuscitated to give people guidance about how to correct the polluted conditions we find ourselves in on the planet today. Homa Therapy comes from VEDAS, the ancientmost body of knowledge known to man. The most basic Homa (Yajnya) is called AGNIHOTRA and is tuned to the biorhythm of sunrise/sunset. Performance of Agnihotra on a regular daily basis establishes the healing energies necessary for a healthy environment. The process involves preparing a small fire in a copper pyramid of fixed size and putting some grains of rice and ghee (clarified unsalted butter) into fire exactly at sunrise and sunset accompanied by the chant of two simple mantras. You can practice Agnihotra in your apartment, garden, office or car. It takes only a few minutes of your time daily. Greetings Fernando: The ashing process works mainly with insects, rodents and plants and the basic info is in Steiner's Agriculture. We have had success with Agnihotra ash for pests as well. Their website is , I believe, www.copworks. com/Agnihotra. There is a newsletter they put out which has many articles on farms which have fewer pest problems once they begin to practice Agnihotra. Blessings and Good Luck, Barbara and Woody P.S. If anyone knows of the German book which explains in detail the ashing process for certain plants we would sure appreciate knowing the title. Thanks http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: Fernando Cabral [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: Re: ashing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you better just relocate..sstorch Is this supposed to be a joke? - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9 S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6 W 19º 37' 57.0 S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6 W
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I have had lots of problems with Snakes (great number of rattle snakes) crickets (they chew around the plant whose growing tip is cut off and drops to the ground). bees (arapuã, a Brazilian black bee that eats flowers, buds, young fruits and any soft plant tissue) butterfly I'd like to test ashing to diminish their attacks. Since I have never seen full, clear explanation on how to prepare and use the ashes, I'd appreciate if someone out there could educate me on that. Things like: a) moon and time of day for collecting the material, burning it and spreading it b) How to burn the material c) How to spread the ashes Perhaps special instructions for the snakes (most of the ones I have captured are 3 feet or more long. Thank you - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9 S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6 W 19º 37' 57.0 S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6 W
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you better just relocate..sstorch Is this supposed to be a joke? - fernando -- REDUZIR, REUSAR, RECICLAR -- Dever de todos, amor aos que virão REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE -- Everybody's duty, love to those who are to come Fernando CabralPadrao iX Sistemas Abertos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pix.com.br Fone Direto: +55 61 329-0206 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PABX: +55 61 329-0202 Fax: +55 61 326-3082 15º 45' 04.9 S (23 L 0196446/8256520) 47º 49' 58.6 W 19º 37' 57.0 S (23 K 0469898/7829161) 45º 17' 13.6 W
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Yes Fernando that was a joke...good advice from Woody. I have just started Agnihotra, I did not realize the pest control benefit...sstorch
