Re: St. Pauli

2003-02-03 Thread cervenka
My application to adopt St. Pauli was 4th in line.  Angels for Animals
called me last Thursday and said St. Pauli was ready to go to her new
home and that they were making contact with the prospects to verify
their continued interest.  I was told that if I didn't hear within the
next couple days it would mean one of the first three applicants had
chosen her.

I've heard  nothing since so I'm thinking I wasn't high enough on the
waiting list.

Anne
Minnesota




RE: Westminster Dog Show

2003-02-03 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Alex,
I'm sure you'll have a lovely time looking at the dogs at Westminster and
you will see some lovely Bernese BUT...This is a very important show for
the exibitors and not necessarily the best time to approach a breeder with
a long list of questions. They are preoccupied with their dogs and totally
focussed on the show:-) Buy a catalogue and in the back will be the names
and addresses of the exibitors, if you tell this list the general area you
live in someone will be able to point you in the right direction for your
local Berner club and breeder referral and you can make contact with a
breeder at a more relaxed time:-)

If you do want to make actual contact at a show keep it brief and ask for a
card and/or present yours and let them know you appreciate they are busy
right now but when would be a good time to talk more.

Many people find breeders off-hand at shows without taking into
consideration that person's pre-occupation with the demands of the day:-)

Rose Tierney




Following the ZenMaster

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce and Marilyn Lister
Ruth, that is absolutely the most beautiful description of your hike in the
mountains with your guys. Thank you so much for giving to us all. Lots of
hugs to ZenMaster and Winter-boy. What joy they give you!
Marilyn Lister
Chelsea, Quebec




Westminster

2003-02-03 Thread blkcat123
Hi All, 
I'm so excited to be attending Westminster this year.  I've been wanting to go for 
years but something has always come up.

We are going for the day on Monday, but will be home at night on my own couch to watch 
the groups!

Here's the info on the Berners:
Ring 4 9am
Bench Row 15 Section A

Hope to see some familiar faces, 
Beth Schmoyer
Snowden  Misha
Bethlehem, PA




Westminster and Other Benched Shows

2003-02-03 Thread Cindy Stauch
There are two other benched shows that I am aware of:

February 21/22 - International Kennel Club of Chicago
http://www.onofrio.com/shwpubs.html
Go to upcoming shows
Find International Kennel Club and click on the link

March 15/16 - Detroit Kennel Club
http://www.infodog.com/clubs/2003101701.HTM
or
http://www.detroitkennelclub.com/

This year's Detroit show on March 15th is a supported entry of the BMDs!!
So hopefully this will bring in lot's of berners.

Hope this helps others looking for dogshows to talk with breeders.

Cindy Stauch
Ann Arbor, MI




Stevie's Progress

2003-02-03 Thread Karen McFarlane
Dear List
Just a note to let you know that Stevie is doing ok. He has not made too
much progress in the last few days. He is still unstable on his feet and his
head remains kind of cocked to one side. This is of course exacerbated by
his blown ear drum, and they feel that the inner ear is also infected now.
He has drops instilled in his ears 4 times a day and he absolutely HATES it!
If I get through this without him loathing me over his meds, it will be a
miracle. We endured a very harsh winter storm yesterday, freezing rain for
12 hours, followed by 35 cm of snow right on top. We lost our power many
times, but the sheer fury of the storm made it very difficult to get Stevie
out. I fell into deep snow and ice twice and was so frustrated with the
whole thing. But things are better today, although our power has been off
several times so far today. We are bracing for another Freezing rain storm
during the day tomorrow. Stevie will still only eat 6 or 8 pieces of kibble
if you feed them to him by hand, one at a time. He cleans just about
everything else up though, all in good time. I now am able to sleep on the
couch, and make Stevie's bed up right beside me, so that I keep one hand on
him most of the time when I am resting. I want to know the second that he
stirs.  My fingers are ok, except for the fact that one of the times that I
was out in the weather, last evening, I hadn't put my mitts on and when I
fell of course I put my hands out, and right into the snow! It shot
knifelike pain right through those fingers, let me tell you. I was quite a
sight, and ending up sitting in this mess, boohooing, and feeling quite
sorry for myself, meanwhile Stevie patiently laying there with his sling on
and looking worried. It was that look of his that made me suck up my own
discomfort and get him in out of the weather. Not that the bad weather
disconcerted him at all! I think that he was more worried about me! I am
doing physio on him at home, range of motion and stretching exercises. He is
such a good boy. He is not so shaky when he is on his feet, some of his
tremors
could be caused by his anticonvulsant medications, so they tell me. He will
only have a relatively short course on these, hopefully. Well, that is all
for now. Take care and many hugs and kisses to all your Berners and pets.
Love to All.
Karen and Stevie.
xoxo
P.S. I wish to thank the person who brought forward the idea of the vet wrap
on his hind legs. He is much more aware of leg and foot placement with it
on. Thank you very much!!
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Re: Westminster Dog Show

2003-02-03 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 2/3/2003 9:57:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Many people find breeders off-hand at shows without taking into
  consideration that person's pre-occupation with the demands of the day:-)

I would add that some people are not only focused, they find showing very 
stressful...and, while the national specialty is (imo) a bigger 'win' than 
Westminster...The Garden is THE most stressful show on the calender!  (for 
both people and dogs)

As Rose said, when people are focused or harried or stressed...they don't 
always put their best foot forward.

The *good news* is that there are back to back shows coming up in March that 
ARE a good opportunity to meet people in the breed!  The Ct River Working 
Group shows are supported entries on March 15  16 in W. Springfield, MA.

The reasons these are good for introductions are that there's a large entry, 
a lot of spectators, a lot of room in the building...not nearly as hectic as 
all-breed shows, and the host clubs will offer Public Ed information and 
Hospitality each day.

As always, best to talk with people after the judging or before if they're 
not exhibiting.

I'll be there, happy to chat if you can make it.
~Sherri Venditti


  

 




Re: Health Information

2003-02-03 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
Pat and I want to take this time to thank Pat Long  Robin Camken for the
Berner Health related information they have on their websites.
It is great to be able to refer a Puppy buyer to either one of these site
when they have a question about any Berner related health problem.

Again, our thanks to Pat and Robin for maintaining these very useful and up
to date site.

Ray  Pat Burgett


Ray  Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese
Talee,Lexi,,Bell, Shadow  Max
www.goodbernerfood.com
http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/
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Re: Westminster and Other Benched Shows

2003-02-03 Thread Annes4
In a message dated 02/03/2003 9:39:11 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There are two other benched shows that I am aware of:
 
 February 21/22 - International Kennel Club of Chicago
http://www.onofrio.com/shwpubs.html 

Actually, this year, the IKC show is Feb. 22 and 23.  The show on Fri., Feb. 
21 is Blackhawk KC and although in the same location, it is NOT benched.  The 
IKC is really two back to back benched shows.  If you go, wear comfortable 
walking shoes as McCormick place is HUGE and there are tons of vendors 
selling the greatest stuff, besides having a chance to visit with breeders 
and the dogs on the benches.

Anne Copeland, Flash,TDI/CGC (Berner, 8 1/2 yrs.)  Gypsy TDI/CGC(Rescue 
Cavalier,2 yrs.)
BMDCSEW Tracking Test Chair/Sec.
NE ILL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ty's memorial page: http://www.geocities.com/workingyorkie/ty.html
Gypsy's page:http://hometown.aol.com/annes4/Gypsy.html




bloat (food related?)

2003-02-03 Thread Jim Moscatelle
I have read many things on bloat and am more confused with each
reading...elevate the dishes, don't elevate the dishes...dry food vs canned
food or home made food...is there a connection with glucosamine and
chondroitin and bloat? I am open to any and all advice. I have a friend who
has a Swissy who bloated last week( a 6 year old male)..she was in the
process of changing over from Iams to Eukanuba (both for large breed) on the
advice of her vet and was in the final week of making the adjustment. She is
suspect of the food making him gaseous. We have a year old female berner
(raised on Iams and veggie treats..loves banana too!) and a 8 week old male
berner (sent home on Eukanuba) and would not like to experience what she
went through...any suggestions?
Thanks for your help.
Brenda Moscatello




AKC meeting

2003-02-03 Thread Joan N Robinson
I just learned the 'fwd' I sent earlier didn't come through except for 
My comment line at the top ...
here is the full report I thought you'd like to know -
Joan Robinson
===
Thought you might be interested in this, fellow berner-l listers ...
There are a number of folks out there with both Cavaliers  Berners  
yes, lots of Berner stuff is shared on the Cavalier lists ...
Joan Robinson



 Original Message 
Subject: [CKCS-L] AKC Meeting
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:37:41 -0500
From: Carol Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

With permission from Betty Stovall, who originally posted this on a Japanese
Chin list that I'm on, I am forwarding this to the list.  I thought the list
might find this interesting due to our recent discussion about puppy mills
and auctions, as well as the lobbyist the Bernese Mountain Dog group
recently hired.

Carol Richards

Earlier this month I attended the Lawrence Kansas Kennel Club meeting that
was written about on this list.  I drove up with, Laverne,  a Mastiff rescue
lady I met attending one of those awful auctions in preparation for my
Gazette Column.  After opening with a distasteful joke, AKC VP Robert Slay
spoke to us about his department.  The first name on his projection screen
was Steve Robinson, Director of Compliance Operations and Inspections.
After singing this man's praises, he finally moved on to to speak briefly
about the High Volume Breeders Committee, which was why most folks were
there.  As he
spoke he took time for questions and answers and I asked two.  First, I
asked what it accomplished for the HVB Committee to come to my area in
Missouri and visit only kennels that were hand picked by Tom Holly who had
given them 1 1/2 months to prepare their kennels for the committee's visit.
Holly was the MO Dept. of Agriculture's kennel inspector who received
national media coverage when it was discovered his wife owned and operated a
huge commercial kennel, needless to say he now inspects chickens. (-:  I
told Slay that my home would look like a million dollars if I knew in
advance that President
Bush was coming.  I explained that I can see no improvement of the AKC
kennels in our area from what they were 14 years ago, Laverne agreed with
me.  Slay then declared they have improved 300% since the care and
conditions policy was accepted in1996.  Hog wash  How on earth would he
or his department know?  They are not the ones driving by these kennels as
they go to work each day as I do.  My second question was, isn't it a
conflict of interest for your director, Mr. Steve Robinson, to breed and
show Chows?  Steve Robinson is a very crude, rude individual that attended
the action in
Wheaton, MO in May.  I heard him bragging to me and others about his Chows
being the best in the world as he sat cheek to cheek with Herman Shindler,
a commercial breeder from Mexico, MO who has from 3,000 to 5,000 breeding
dogs at all times.  By their own choosing, the Shindlers no longer register
their dogs with AKC due to the DNA frequent sire program and Care and
Conditions Policy.  Robert Slay defended Steve Robinson by saying as long as
his Chows are not in his name while being shown he doesn't have a problem
with it.  How much more hypocritical can he get?  AKC also has a policy,
that if anyone is convicted of an animal cruelty charge they are
automatically suspended from all AKC pivileges for a minimum of 10 years.
Yet, Jr. McDaniel and Kenn Little were both convicted of cruelty charges and
because of a friendship with Steve Robinson they are both still showing dogs
at AKC shows.  Sure makes a person wonder doesn't it?  If you want to know
more about these two men go to Google and check out a petition written by
the editors of TNT.

I learned yesterday that Steve Robinson is trying to find out who this
Stovall woman is.  I did not give Slay my name I only told him that I
attended the auction in preparation for my September column on the dog
auctions.  Evidently Slay was paying more attention than he appeared to be.

AKC have taken some positive steps with the Care and Conditions Policy and
frequent sire DNA testing.  These two policies could be a giant step forward
in bringing an end to commercial kennels.  According to Steve Gladstone the
HVB Committee is designed to raise the bar for the commercial kennels that
want to stay with AKC.  But at the Breeder's Seminar put on by the Hunte
Corporation this summer in Goodman, MO I heard with my own ears Steve
Gladstone, the keynote speaker, tell the commercial breeders that AKC wants
to embrace them.  Also saying, you taught AKC a lesson when you boycotted
us, AKC needs you and you need the AKC.  The 1,000 plus commercial breeders
were on their feet with applause.  Steve Gladstone is an AKC Board member,
an AKC judge and on the HVB Committee.  He also made the 

THE BARC LOC PRIZES ARE IN THE MAIL

2003-02-03 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Hi everyone,

I wanted to let the winners of the BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser klnow that 
I mailed most of the prizes on Saturday morning.   I took 50 packages early 
Saturday morning to a small out of the way post office that isn't very 
busy.  I go there so that I don't hold up the lines in the busy post office 
near my home.   I still have two prizes to mail and will pack them up 
tonight.  Some of the prizes are being sent by the donors and most of them 
have also been mailed.

If you were one of the lucky winners, please let me know when your package 
arrives safely.   I like to track the arrival of the prizes to make sure 
that everyone has received their items.   Thanks!!!

Just a reminderthere is another fundraiser going on right now.   Terri 
Zimmerman is conducting a fundraiser for the lobby effort.   .  Talented 
young artist, Lace Smith will do a pencil sketch (up to 3 dogs) for the 
winner of this fundraiser.   Tickets are $5 each or 3 tickets for $10 or 10 
tickets for $20.   The website for the fundraiser is: 
	http://bmdcgs.org/lobby/berner_gallery.htm
Lace does beautiful work..in fact, the sketch on the far right of their 
website is the one she did of my Winston and it is wonderful.  The 
fundraiser will end of Feb. 22nd.

Joye Neff (Samantha and Ben)
Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA




Histio Roll Call

2003-02-03 Thread jean cheesman
To all of you who responded earlier here and to those of you who have yet to
respond.

Joye, Pat, Karen and I are preparing a new special Website to celebrate the
lives of those
beloved Berners lost to Histio.

Now I am not giving away more details here but I am hoping to have it
together for the end of the
month and to coincide with new Raffle on behalf of Cancer Research, Willem
has donated two new superb paintings and will be in Loving Memory of Joye's
Winston
and all the other dogs lost to this horrible disease.

The Histio Roll Call is up on the new page from those of you who posted
previously! Please, if you didn't post before, mail me now! The aim is to
have small pic of each dog and then click on that image for the individual
page, more pics and some special words.

To give you some idea, click on Pat Long's Hannibal and Karen Connors'
Britney as I already have pages up for them.

Working page for new site is:
http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm

I have a free week! Get those pics and those special words in to me right
now!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

All love,

Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang
X
http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm




Officially funniest thing I've ever seen a Berner do

2003-02-03 Thread _Adam Conn
Bison, our 9 1/2 month old BMD, has an odd habit when
chasing his tail. Unlike most dogs, he catches his
tail first, then holds it and circles.

Pretty cute, yes. 

But tonight, he added a new dimension to this game.

He stood between my wife's legs, caught his tail, and
proceeding to circle repeatedly with tail still
clamped on to. At no time did he release the tail, nor
was the space under my wife's legs voided. If we could
train THAT as a trick, I think he'd be beyond the
Letterman scope of stupid dog tricks.

He kept it up for at least a minute and at least 10
complete circles. 

After my wife lost her balance, he continued the chase
until completely dizzy. (The dog, not my wife...)

Adam
Panda, Pockets, and a rather dizzy puppy Bison

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thyroid and cancer

2003-02-03 Thread gwebara
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[no subject]

2003-02-03 Thread Swisskiss BMD
Does anyone know who owns/bred this dog SwisskissQ's Molly  born May 16th,
2002,( we did not breed this dog )
Madeline

Swisskiss Bernese Mountain Dogs
'Loyal  Loving  Companions'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.swisskiss-bmd.com
Don't Breed If You Don't Rescue!




Final Chemotherapy Treatment

2003-02-03 Thread Lisa D Allen
It has been a long and very tiring day for Moses and me, but he is finished 
with chemotherapy for his bone cancer; the amputation and chemotherapy have 
extended his happy life, hopefully significantly.  When I learned to drive, 
in Detroit, in the very early 1970s, my instructor said that if a person 
could drive the highways and byways of the Motor City, he or she could drive 
anywhere.  This gentleman has never been on Route 128, I am certain, going 
to or leaving Boston in heavy traffic, with a few of us poor souls, 
including me, driving, as usual, safely and cautiously, but the majority 
attempting to reach their destination as quickly as possible in whatever 
manner is necessary to achieve this.  When I dropped off Moses at Angell 
Memorial Animal Hospital in Boston, one of the Critical Care Nurses was 
strolling through the waiting room and told me what a pleasant and 
determined boy Moses is, wanting to stand right after his November 2002 rear 
leg amputation.  Today Dr. Vandis, one of the oncologists, was in charge of 
his chemotherapy.  She commented on what a pleasure it was to work with 
Moses.  Again, Moses' pre-chemo. blood work was fine BUT his urine was 
mildly diluted.  Since all else seems well, we are hoping this is just a 
fluke and not a sign of kidney dysfunction, possibly caused by the chemo. 
drug Cisplatin, given with Adriamycin during the last three chemo. 
treatments, even though the system is flushed extensively (diuresis) when 
Cisplatin is administered.  Urine dilution can fluctuate during the day and 
my Yoda's (1992-2002) urine's specific gravity was always slightly off and 
we did every test in the book to ascertain his wellness and he seemed 
fine, in spite of this.  But, instead of Cisplatin today, Carboplatin, which 
does not have the same adverse effects on the kidneys, was given along with 
the Adriamycin.  Moses was sent home with Reglan (generic metoclopramide) in 
case of nausea and vomiting but he seems comfortable, thus far, and eagerly 
ate and kept down a small dinner.
Dr. Vandis, in typical Angell fashion, called me in the late morning to 
give me a lengthy update regarding Moses, for which I was deeply 
appreciative.  Moses is scheduled for another urinalysis next week, and 
bloodwork too, at my regular veterinarian's clinic; he works closely with 
Moses' specialists at Angell.  Too, we have scheduled Moses' first 
post-cancer treatment follow-up appointment at Angell.
In the fashion of a young person, whenever my mother used to worry terribly 
if I was ill, I always wondered why she reacted so deeply and personally, it 
seemed.  Having experienced synovial cell sarcoma with Yoda and now 
osteosarcoma with Moses, and suffered along side with them, I now know.  
One heart feels another.
Lisa Allen





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Collie Trial

2003-02-03 Thread jesse shelley gonzales
Hi All,
For those of you that do not yet know, on Friday, the Toole County attorney
filed papers to retry the owners of the 170+ collies that were confiscated
at the Canada/Montana border.  I sent the attorney a letter suggesting that
they seat a jury of the owners' peers, i.e.. dog breeders, not cattle
ranchers, as well as a few other suggestions regarding genetic eye disorders
and how you don't need 170 malnourished breeding dogs to try to deal with
it.

Those of us Montanans on these lists want you all to know that we are not a
bunch of redneck hicks.  So many have devoted months of time caring for
these poor dogs and raising money for their care.  We are embarrassed by the
outcome of the first trial and hope that your emails to the county attorney
will help with the new trial.  Keep up the good fight.  Email Mr. Raph at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you,
Shelley Gonzales
Bigfork, MT




Re: THE BARC LOC PRIZES ARE IN THE MAIL

2003-02-03 Thread Janice Parky
Dear Auntie Joye-

I just want to thank you for all the time and effort you put into the
raffles to raise money for BARC, Light One Candle, and all the other Berner
causes.  What would we do without you?!!!   My mom keeps trying to teach me
things like down and stay and NO hugs, but what I really want to learn
is how to write checks!  Then I can bid on all the things I want, instead of
her bidding on the things SHE wants.  Although, I must say, a portrait of me
by Lace Smith hanging in the living room would be wonderful.

Hugs to you Auntie-
Halley Parky-Cagwin
BARC's Comet Comes Home






Re: THE BARC LOC PRIZES ARE IN THE MAIL

2003-02-03 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Dear Halley,

I guess I'll have to have a word with your Mom about ticket selection the 
next time we have a fundraiser.   ;-D
Maybe we need to get some more doggie items for the upcoming Berner-Garde 
Fundraiser, so there will be  more things that you and your fellow (and 
gal) Berners would enjoy(e).   I'll work on that, Halley!!!

Hugs, Belly Rubs and Scritches.
Auntie Joye



Re: bloat (food related?)

2003-02-03 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
We will relate only our experience with the feeding of our dogs. We feed
Flint River Ranch Kibble with a spoon of yogurt on the AM feeding, with no
water added to the kibble. We used a raised dish and have done this for many
years, over 18 years to be exact but just the past 5 years with Flint River
Ranch Premium Pet Foods.

You will receive many replies on this, many I'm sure will have links to
various studies that have been done.
One must do what they feel comfortable with. What works for one person will
be just the opposite of what works for someone else.

Ray  Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese
Talee,Lexi,,Bell, Shadow  Max
www.goodbernerfood.com
http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/
Draminski Ovulation Detector Rep