Gold Bead implants
It has been quite some time since I have seen anyone mention gold bead implants as a treatment option for hip dysplasia. Is this a treatment that is still considered successful and a top choice for those dealing with HD? If so, does anyone know of a practitioner in California whom they would recommend who has experience providing this kind of treatment? thanks in advance! Lisa in Bakersfield, CA
Re: Fetching Berners (aren't they all?)
Enzo, my 4 month old Berner, would fetch and retreive a thrown tennis ball occasionally. Since I have such fond memories of playing fetch with my Lab I decided tonight that I would see if I could teach Enzo to reliably fetch. I had a pocket full of broken up dog biscuits and threw the ball. Luckily Enzo brought it back on the first throw. He was promptly rewarded with a piece of biscuit (also had the added benefit of causing him to drop the ball at my feet). After a few rounds of throw ball, Enzo retreive ball, Enzo gets treat, throw ball, Enzo chases ball but leaves it, Enzo doesn't get treat, throw ball, Enzo stares at ball in the distance, Enzo doesn't get treat, he finally caught on. Heck, he even ran to the ball and brought it back to me unprompted when I took him out to do his business. Looks like this could become a good game. I also started working on the come command with treats. Once again Enzo showed his intelligence by catching on after only one attempt. He's a very food motivated puppy! ;-) John Engstrom Plano, TX Catherine wrote: My boy Mickey is both a fetching (retrieving) Berner and a fetching (fabulously handsome) Berner I don't even remember teaching him to fetch - we just started doing it one day. I'd throw and he'd bring it back. Then I really shaped it with treats and using 2 toys (throw one - he fetches - throw the second - he drops the first and goes after the second - repeat - repeat - repeat...). Now I've added the commands Take It and Out. During training sessions we take breaks to play with his tug toy. When he's really into it, sometimes I tell him Out and he removes his mouth from the toy. Then I tell him Take It and he takes it again and when I say Tug-tug-tug we play. I've heard that Berners aren't much for fetch, but our boy loves it! Catherine Young Madison WI Shadow, Mickey & Jenny _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Was: Had Enough -- Now: How to be a breeder
When I talk to PPO's about getting a berner pup, I always explain that a good breeder will ask LOTS of questions, and not to be put off or offended by that - a good breeder is genuinely concerned about where their pups are going. It always makes them feel better when I tell them that I had three berner breeders turn me down flat as an unsuitable owner! I also volunteer with our local humane society. You wouldn't believe how much verbal abuse we take from potential "adopters" when we ask them to complete our standard questionnaire. There is evidently a segment of the population who feel they have some God-given right to own whatever animal they want, regardless of their suitability, or lack thereof. It is this type of attitude that unfortunately contributes to the problem, whether it be choosing to buy a pup from a pet shop, or taking a "store front give away" pup from another irresponsible pet owner. We see them every day... Mary Shaver and the girls, Laurel and Bailey Fayetteville, GA
swiss quilt squares
Hi everyone - If you are doing quilt squares for the swiss quilt project - please note they are due very soon. I am starting to finish the work on my own, and would like to start putting blocks together. Thanks again. If you would like more information, please contact me personally - LeAnn Zogg Pax and Paws North Dakota
Obedience brag -- both regional specialties!
I'm putting in 2 weekends of brags in for the price of one...can I do that, Pat? At the Potomac Valley specialty in Maryland this past weekend, my 4 yr old Bean got a lovely 197 in Open B. Surprisingly, he didnt get High In Trial this year -- b/c my 21 month old rescue dog Charm did!! Thirdtym's A Charm, CGC got his very first CD leg this weekend, getting a 197 1/2 to win Novice B. Not too shabby for a puppy mill bred pet shop pup. His name comes from the fact that I was his third home (after the pet shop where he was purchased) and he was the third Berner in my home. I got him at 10 months old, he had possessive aggression issues. Fostering rescue dogs is very hard .sometimes one gets too attached and keeps them! Charm got 197 1/2 in Nov B and Bean had a 197 in Open B. I knew the scores had to be close and as I waited for Charm's score it occured to me I might have a runoff against myself. :-) My wonderful almost 8 yr old Java got a 196 to win first place in Veterans. And last weekend at the SE WI specialty, Bean got his High In Trial award and had first place in Open B. Java also won first in Veterans there. It was little Charm's first time in the ring and he was doing very well until he anticipated the recall and got a 0, but he sure made up for it the next weekend in Maryland! Vilma Briggs (Kistner) Mt. Gilead, OH U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT Thirdtym's A Charm, CGC and now Bruin (aka Pogo/??)
Happy 1st Birthday
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Innotek flea and tick repeller disk
Today I received my two new Innotek tick repeller disks in the mail. Because I have always been a curious sort, I decided to take one of the old one apart to see if the battery can be replaced. It does come apart and the battery does look replaceable, however it is spot soldered in addition to being 'clipped' in. I will take it to work tomorrow. It will give me an opportunity to ask the 'cute electrician' if it looks like it can be re-soldered. Gail Miller Cynosure Bernese in Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Climbing the walls
Pregnancy testing. There is a blood test that is fairly new and not expensive that can determine pregnancy with great accuracy some time after 24 days. I use this in addition to palpation. I do not ultrasound for pregnancy testing because it does not tell you much in terms of size of litter and some places charge a ridiculous amount of money. Mark Mohapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Potomac Specialty Regular Classes
2003 Potomac Valley BMDC Regional Independent Specialty, Point of Rocks, MD Saturday and Sunday March 8 and 9, 2003 177 Dogs entered with a total of 261 entries Sweepstakes Judge: Ms. Celia Cuellar Breed Judge: Ms. Deborah J. Wilkins Breed Results Sunday March 9, 2003 Puppy 6 - 9 months, Dogs 1st - Skylyn's Gotta Getme Sum, Christine McLean & Gene Robinson 2nd - Swiss Stars Black Diamond, Wendi & Barry Giordano 3rd - San Lee's Dantesque Style, Sandra Haag & Melissa Gad Puppy 9 - 12, Dogs 1st - Snowking's Bold Lightning, Robin Korotki 2nd - Winks' Mason Dixon Line, Whitney & Susan McCulloch 3rd - Hayfields Grnd Pwrful Pooh-Bah, Virginia & L. Keith Pumphrey 4th - Hanflorian Georg V Lindenhof, Beverly S. Arnold 12 - 18 months, Dogs 1st - Kasablanca-L-n's Heart Throb, Sindi Leo 2nd - Von Engel's Kramer V Santera, Sherry Von Engel 3rd - Classiques All The Trimmings, Susan Houser 4th - Glendalough's Eamonn A Chara, Ellen Cohill Novice, Dogs 1st - Sojan's Spencer V Windy Knob, Sandra Hawkins 2nd - Witchway's Black Magic, John & dorothy Foellmer 3rd - Owl Branch Stormyu Monday, Chris Cloclough & Valerie Chase 4th - Lord Fairfax Bear, William Davis & Henry Williams Bred-by-Exhibitor, Dogs 1st - Adesa The Heat Is On, Bobbi Kinley Blewett & William Blewett 2nd - Mountain Spirit Walking Image, Mylene Turbide 3rd - Kasablanca's Fool's Gold, Laura Gilliam 4th - De-Li's Cast A Magic Spell, Lilian Ostermiller & Joyce Dickhoff American-bred, Dogs 1st - Santera Rudee V Crest, Kathleen Perry 2nd - Dieter Von Lindenhof, Daniel & Nancy Lopez 3rd - Rosebank's Dream Boy Rocky, Karen Weathers Open, Dogs 1st - Mountain Spirit Final Decision, Mylene Turbide 2nd - Xenno Vom Kleinholz, Cheryl Sams 3rd - October The Drake V Tullysky, Jennifer Hoffnagle & Sharon Smith 4th - Arko Von Alpentraum, Briana Walton Winners Dog Mountain Spirit Final Decision (from Open Class), Mylene Turbide Reserve Winners Dog Adesa The Heat Is On (from Bred-by Class), Bobbi Kinley-Blewett & William Blewett Puppy 6 - 9 months, Bitches 1st - Indian Hills Heat Of The Moment, Joanne Gerow 2nd - Adesa Casmor Some Like It Hot, Kimberly Elksnis & Bobbi Kenley-Blewett 3rd - Banhof's She's The One, Michael & Janice Bann 4th - L-Sin's Thin Blue Line, Sindi Leo Puppy 9 - 12, Bitches 1st - Keilissa's Feature Presentation, Ashley & Lee Ann Brownstein 2nd - Kimberlite's Indigo Girl, Catherine Shipe 3rd - Von Engel's Look Who's Talk-N V Wink, Sherry & Kasey Von Engel 4th - Fulani Neriza V Lindenhof, Steven & Barbara Yoder 12 - 18, Bitches 1st - Swiss Stars Jazz It Up, Melissa & John Ruchak 2nd - Bayley Van De Weyenberg, Theo Parfet & Amy Tucker 3rd - Wyemede's Flashback To Dorli, Julia and Elizabeth Crawford 4th - Santera Special Celebrity, Sindi Leo Novice, Bitches 1st - Von Engel's Ideal Design, Sherry & Kasey Von Engel 2nd - Bernvonrust Ciara, Joyce Frey & Lesley Rouillier 3rd - Hayfield's Grand Mt Devon, H & J Malcolm & J. Grandstaff Bred-by Exhibitor, Bitches 1st - Von Engel's Imagemaker, Sherry & Kasey Von Engel 2nd - Skylyn's Hopi, Coral VanBuren & Christine McLean 3rd - Wyndcall Tribute To Keilissa, Melissa & John Ruchak 4th - Caroling's Kindred Spirit, Carol & Kenneth Lingley American Bred, Bitches 1st - Hayfields Grand Morning Star, Bill Hefner & J. Grandstaff 2nd - Tennescott Lysa's Jolie Fille, Sandra Haag Open, Bitches 1st - Skylyn's Kickapoo, Sindi Leo 2nd - Mountain Spirit's Masterpiece, Mylene Turbide 3rd - Trevi's Black Magic Woman, Lee Ann Brownstein & Barbara Ann Bych 4th - Keilissa's Ground Zero, Lee Ann Brownstein Winners Bitch Skylyn's Kickapoo (from Open Class), Sindi Leo Reserve Winners Bitch Mountain Spirit's Masterpiece (from Open Class), Mylene Turbide Veteran Class 7 - 9, Dogs 1st - Ch. Rogel's Esprit De Wyemede, Julia & Elizabeth Crawford & Anna Bowman 2nd - Ch. De-Li's Legend Of Avalon, UD, Lisa Mitchell & Lilian Ostermiller 3rd - Snowking's Magic Two V L'Andres, CD, Robin Korotki 4th - Kadoo's Mountain Thumper, David & Patricia Burgan Veteran Class 11 +, Dogs 1st - Ch. Rainbow La Fraisiere, Mary Bass Veteran Class 7 - 9, Bitches 1st - Ch. Hildreks Lyssach, Deborah Godfrey 2nd - Bayberry of Hayfields Grand, Don & Janet Grandstaff Veteran Class 9 - 11, Bitches Ch. Eversleigh's Claim To Faime, Renate Buie Best of Breed Ch. Indian Hill's Infinite Justice, Joanne Gerow Best of Winners Skylyn's Kickapoo (from open bitch class), Sindi Leo Best of Opposite Ch. Skylyn's Custom Kisses, Christine McLean & Gene Robinson Stud Dog Class 1st - Ch. Kasablanca's Black Forest, Laura Gilliam Brood Bitch Class 1st - Ch. Adesa Honky Tonk Woman, K. & S. Elksnis & B.& B. Kinley-Blewett 2nd - Ch. Degrasso's Alani V Layla, Anna Bowman 3rd - Ch. Beowulf's The Bewitching One, Joyce Dickhoff
Potomac Specialty results
Herb Hoffman was kind enough to type these all for another list - I'm using them to post here! Sweeps first. Pat --- 2003 Potomac Valley BMDC Regional Independent Specialty, Point of Rocks, MD Saturday and Sunday March 8 and 9, 2003 177 Dogs entered with a total of 261 entries Saturday Sweepstakes Results 6 to 9 months, dogs 1st - Adesa the Heat is on, Bobbi Kinley Blewett and William Blewett 2nd - Skylyn's Gotta Getme Sum, Christine McLean and Gene Robinson 3rd - Swiss Stars Black Diamond, Wendi and Barry Giordano and Bobbie Hefner 4th - Adesa Wind Thing of Shersan, William Blewett 9 to 12 months, dogs 1st - Sojan's Spencer v Windy Knob, Sandra Hawkins 2nd - Snowking's Bold Lightning, Robin Korotki 3rd - Winks' Mason Dixon Line, Whitney and Susan McCulloch 4th - Hanflorian Georg v Lindenhof, Beverly Arnold 12 to 15 months, dogs 1st - Kasablanca's Fool's Gold, Laura Gilliam 2nd - Von Engel's Kramer v Santera, Sherry Von Engel 3rd - Kasablanca-L-Sin's Heart Throb, Sindi Leo 4th - Vercingetorix v Alderhorst, Tom Hartel and Kimberly and Gary Buckley 15 to 18 months, dogs 1st - De-Li's Cast a Magic Spell, Lilian Ostermiller and Joyce Dickoff 2nd - Witchway's Black Magic, John and Dorothy Foellmer 3rd - Classiques All the Trimmings, Susan Houser 4th - Travmar's Zeus, Travis and M. L. Patterson 6 to 9 months, bitches 1st - Kasablanca's Bonniblu v L-Sin, Laura Gilliam 2nd - Indian Hills Heat of the Moment, Joanne Gerow 3rd - L-Sin's Thin Blue Line, Sindi Leo 4th - Adesa Casmor Some Like It Hot, Kimberly Elksnis and Bobbi Kinley-Blewett 9 to 12 months, bitches 1st - Keilissa's Feature Presentation, Ashley and Lee Ann Brownstein 2nd - Kimberlite's Indigo Girl, Catherine Shipe 3rd - Von Engel's Look Who's Talk-N v Wink, Sherry and Kasey Von Engel 4th - Myotie's For My Lady, Barbara Bierden and Dianne Atkins 12 to 15 months, bitches 1st - Wyemede's Flashback to Dorli, Julia Crawford and Elizabeth Crawford 2nd - Santera Special Celebrity, Sindi Leo 3rd - Swiss Stars Jazz It Up, Melissa and John Ruchak 4th - Bayley Ban De Weyenberg, Theo Parfet and Amy Tucker 15 to 18 months, bitches 1st Von Engel's Ideal Design, Sherry and Kasey Von Engel 2nd - Wyndcall Tribute to Keilissa, Melissa and John Ruchak 3rd - Von Engel's Icing on the Cake, Sherry and Kasey Von Engel 4th - Von Engel's Imagemaker, Sherry and Kasey Von Engel Best in Sweeps - Adesa the Heat is On, Bobbi Kinley Blewett and William Blewett (6 to 9 months, dog) Best of Opposite in Sweeps - Wyemede's Flashback to Dorli, Julia and Elizabeth Crawford (12 to 15 months, bitch) Veterans 7 to 9 years, dogs 1st - Ch. Rogel's Esprit de Wyemede, Julia and Elizabeth Crawford and Anna Bowman 2nd - Ch. De-Li's Legend of Avalon, UD, Lisa Mitchell and Lilian Ostermiller 3rd - Snowking's Magic Two v L'Andres, CD, Robin Korotki 11 years and over, dogs Ch. Rainbow La Fraisiere, Mary Bass (You should have seen this old guy move around the ring. He looked like a 5 year old) 7 to 9 years, bitches 1st - Ch. Hildreks Lyssach, Deborah Godfrey 2nd - Swiss Kiss Kona-Cranberry Farm, CD, Brenda Bedrosian 9 to 11 years, bitches 1st - Ch. Eversleigh's Claim to Faime, Renate Buie 2nd - Ch. Dogwood's America Seavaridge, Blanche Roberts 3rd - Hoffhund Tag-Along Tessa, Susanne Hoffman Best Veteran in Sweeps Ch. Rogel's Esprit de Wyemede, Julia and Elizabeth Crawford and Anna Bowman (7 to 9 years, dog) Best of Opposite in Sweeps - Ch. Eversleigh's Claim to Faime, Renate Buie (9 to 11 years, bitch)
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results from PV Specialty??
OK, I've been patient long enough - can someone please post details from Saturday's PV specialty?? Thanks, Libby Kesner Voorheesville NY USA
Re: Need Help; Terribly Itchy eyes
Forwarded in plain text for Willem, please respond to him directly!! Pat -- I need some help for Dingo, she has already for a couple of weeks terrible itching eyes. She rub her eyes along everything on the carpet on stone walls in the garden along trees, and she rub so strong that her fur around her eyes are going away, its only her eyes no other places of her body are itching her. I have been with her already several times by the vet hy have give her an injection against the itching and I must give her 4 times a day eye drops, then it become less but in about 14 days it begins again. The vet does not know what it is, he told my that it is no allergy because then she must have also other places on her body who itching her. The white in her eyes are bloody red that's the only thing what you can she on her eyes. She is on a raw diet from cow meat and sheep and lamb meat, blanch veggies and futher all the other things. Please will you by so kind for my to put an announce on Berner L list about the problem Dingo have, maybe one of the members know something what I can do. Thanking you in advance from Dingo and Willem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: help with digest
Kim, Thanks for making the effort, most people just email me to ask for help! I think the problem with your commands is that you are sending them in HTML. Are you sending emails from www.aol.com or from version AOL 7.0 or later? Try sending the list command from www.aol.com, and if that doesn't work - let me know and I'll be happy to do it for you! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Berner Hit by Car, Owner needs info!!
Please respond directly to Vanessa if you can help with any information! Pat Hello, My dog Samson an 11 month old Bernese was hit by a car yesterday. His injuries are to front right shoulder and side. He has a Pneumothorax,which I'm led to believe will heal,but the shoulder injury is a "Brachial plexus avulsion" Right now the leg is not weight bearing and just flops. The vet says the worst case scenario is amputation. Do you know anything about this type of injury or where I can find information. Any information you can provide is appreciated. My E-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vanessa Cook
Fetching Berners (aren't they all?)
My boy Mickey is both a fetching (retrieving) Berner and a fetching (fabulously handsome) Berner I don't even remember teaching him to fetch - we just started doing it one day. I'd throw and he'd bring it back. Then I really shaped it with treats and using 2 toys (throw one - he fetches - throw the second - he drops the first and goes after the second - repeat - repeat - repeat...). Now I've added the commands Take It and Out. During training sessions we take breaks to play with his tug toy. When he's really into it, sometimes I tell him Out and he removes his mouth from the toy. Then I tell him Take It and he takes it again and when I say Tug-tug-tug we play. I've heard that Berners aren't much for fetch, but our boy loves it! Catherine Young Madison WI Shadow, Mickey & Jenny
retrieving
All of our Berners are also happy retrievers. Haley, at 11 1/2 will still retrieve enthusiastically. In her puppy temperament test, she retrieved the thrown object 5 times, and the evaluator stopped at that point. (Always bringing it back happily, not just investigating). Cassie, our 4 year old will play fetch with a tennis ball for as long as we allow. She has never willingly quit, and usually outlasts our Border Collie! It isn't a breed specific game! Some of ours has been cultivated, but Haley's was totally natural, and Cassie's retrieve drive is far beyond what has ever been taught. Kris Clark and Kris Osojnicki and the Bevy of mostly Berners Haley, Mara, Lexi, Cassie & Niko (& Pearle the Border Collie) Chalet & Tiki (both in loving memory) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Had Enough -- Now: How to be a breeder
A friend of mine that shows Berners but is not a Berner owner recently went to some shows in the northern plains states. She is often approached by people looking for a Berner pup and has learned all the "right things" to tell these folks regarding care and health. At this one particular show she said she spent time with a woman who was looking for a puppy. She directed this woman towards the several breeders that were at the show after telling her a little about the breed. My friend overheard some of the conversation with the woman and Berner breeders. My friend felt they were very aggresive in their questioning of the woman. She felt they were defensive and this defensivness comes across as a bit hostile. They wanted to know what she wanted a dog for and what was she going to do with it and was she planning to show it, etc. My friend thought the woman seemed sincere and nice and later that day the woman came back and told my friend that she was the only one that didn't try to run her off. Just some input from a non-Berner dog person Susan Ablon Gweebarra BMD Balch Springs, Tx http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara
fetching balls
My 3 yr old boy likes to play with his soccer ball(#4 size). He will "kick" it with his front feet or pick it up in his mouth and run.. The new pup, 5 months, like to have any ball tossed for her to go and get it, and then she will bring it to us to throw again. This includes tennis balls, the red blinking ball, and a giant basketball size tennis ball. Divot knows better than to take Caddie's soccer ball, though. One of the only things that he will protect. She can have his meaty bones, but don't touch that ball. Kay Sloate
Re: help with digest
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Re: Had Enough -- Now: How to be a breeder
I just felt like throwing in my two cents. The first thing I think when someone posts to the list and says how a breeder has been "mean" to them because they were asked some questions from the breeder is to stop whining and think. If a breeder is worth anything they will ask questions. I personally wouldn't trust one that didn't. I think some of these people just assume they are the perfect prospect to have a Berner. Then they get asked a some questions and they assume they are being belittled or just don't like being scrutinized. It's ridiculous. If I was a breeder (and have no plans of being one) and asked someone questions and the people resented it I'd run away, and fast, from them. Having a lot of money, a big house, a high position etc. does not make automatically make a good owner. I will never forget a conversation I had with a lady that did Westie rescue in Atlanta. She said the worst case of neglect she had was someone who lived a couple doors down from the governor's mansion. This is a very beautiful, old and moneyed area and the homes are on several acres. The people are at the top of society in this area, but none of that mattered to a neglected little Westie. I thought that was so sad. I think some of these people get caught up in the Berner's beauty without much regard to anything else. They want a lawn ornament to show off. I always hope some of these people don't get a Berner, but the sad part is if these people ended up getting a Berner chances are it will be from a breeder that didn't care enough to ask any questions, because they really didn't care, they got their check. If these people can be educated then that's great. But unfortunately, I just think some of these people think they are entitled to a Berner. There are snobby Berner breeders that think no one is good enough and there are snobby potential Berner owners that are insenced that someone would ask them a question. These PPO's need to do there research when it comes whether a Berner is for them and in picking a breeder. I think the brunt of the responsibility is on the breeders. To me it's so simple, their decisions as to who gets a puppy is the future of the breed. If they can be careful who they sold puppies to (asking PPO's lots of questions) it can only be a good thing for the breed. I have no sympathy for these PPO's that think their privacy has been violated if they are asked a question by a breeder. Flame me if you want, I won't care, but go ahead if you want. And yes I am signing my name. Kathy Schmitz, Woodstock, Georgia Brighteye Meine Liebe "Greta" NAP, NJP, CGC "Mattie" Matterhorn Princess CD, NA, CGC & Gunner (in loving memory and together again at the bridge)
Re: Had Enough -- Now: How to be a breeder
Hi Cathy, I think people are actually put off by the fact that we selectively screen our puppy buyers and that we request they sign and enter into a contract with us. They are also put off by the fact that they are entering into a partnership for the life of the dog, with us the breeder. Lots of times these partnerships turn into friendships that last a lifetime!! There are so many people out there that just want to buy a dog, go get and go home and do whatever they please with it. They treat the animal more like purchased merchandise than a human living being and I think that the people we're turning away aren't fit to own a dog, probably 90% of these types of people at least. Kim Morrow Susa Reg'd Saskatoon, SK http://www.bernesedogs.com > I could be very good at "stroking people" too. Is that what you want to > hear from > a breeder?
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playing fetch
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PVBMDC REgional Sepcialty
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Update: Guinness dog with a bone in his throat
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Worm Klez.E immunity
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Was: Had Enough -- Now: How to be a breeder
> Pet shops don't do that -- they stroke people looking at their wares. They thank us for repelling otherwise good homes directly into their lair > > We may have to look at what *we're* doing that causes this behaviour. Would someone, anyone, everyone, put into the acutal words ... yeah, like quotes ... what it is breeders are saying, asking, and/ or implying that are "put offs," insults, seeming snobby or just plain nosey? I'd like to hear what's wrong ... in real words with these conversations. Please leave the "guilty" party's name out of the reply. I could be very good at "stroking people" too. Is that what you want to hear from a breeder? And I don't think I can be convinced that a person that has reached the age of majority ... let's say 18 years of age is "repelled to," or "insulted to," or "has to" buy a Bernese Mountain Dog from a puppy mill, pet store, etc. That is a conscious decision to do so by that adult and that conscious decision should not be "pawned off" to others because of a self-validated reason: "I am going to **HAVE TO** buy a Berner puppy from a puppy mill because __ (fill in the blank.)" More correctly stated would be, "I am choosing to buy a Berner puppy from a puppy mill because _(fill in the blank)." I am choosing to sign-off now ... Tailwags, Cathy Burlile Memories BMDs
Re: BERNER-L digest 4314
Hello, Please remove my name from your mailing list. Unfortunately, I am not now planning to get a Bernese. Your web site is very informative, however, I don't need anymore information. Thank you. Joan >From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: BERNER-L digest 4314 >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:01:04 CST > > BERNER-L Digest 4314 > >Topics covered in this issue include: > > 1) Re: Removing ticks > by "Kathryn Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2) Re: introduction - new to list > by "Ray & Pat Burgett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3) Happy Birthday Emma > by "Mary-Ann Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 4) Re:Caesar (remember us??) > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 5) Specialty Shopping Tip > by "Mary-Ann Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 6) Dunbar needs your help > by Marjie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 7) Re:Caesar (remember us??) > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 8) Re: new training trick > by "Claudia Brydon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9) Re: BERNER-L digest 4313 > by "kate puckett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 10) Re: lawn fertilizer question > by "Janice Parky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 11) Re: BERNER-L digest 4304 > by George & Diana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12) Re: BERNER-L digest 4309 > by George & Diana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 13) Re: Removing ticks > by Fran Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >-- >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: "Kathryn Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Removing ticks >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:55:38 -0800 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Rose T. wrote about a local remedy in Guyana to remove ticks--to soak a >cotton pad with >Gordon's Gin and press gently over the tick, the booze anaethetises the >tick and they let go:-) > >Wouldn't that be contributing to the delinquency of a minor--tick? :-D > >Kathy > >-- >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: "Ray & Pat Burgett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Julie Toft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: introduction - new to list >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:26:14 -0800 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Julie >If you email [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will get a nice packet of information >about breeders in the NW. >Turley's are members of the Seattle Berner club and do a great job of >breeder referral for our area. We have placed a number of puppies in your >area that were a result of that referral program. > >Ray & Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese >Talee,Lexi,,Bell, Shadow & Max >www.goodbernerfood.com >http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/ >Draminski Ovulation Detector Rep > >-- >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:51:29 -0700 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: "Mary-Ann Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Happy Birthday Emma >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Today Emma (U-CD Snowbern's Emmaline Rose, CDX, DD, CGC) is nine years old, >although you would be hard pressed to believe it as she looks great. In >spite of her propensity to eat everything and destroy things, she has made >it to her Golden Birthday (nine on the ninth :)! > >Mary-Ann Bowman >Salt Lake City > >-- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:40:48 EST >Subject: Re:Caesar (remember us??) >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1ec.3cc3be7.2b9d4720_boundary" > > >--part1_1ec.3cc3be7.2b9d4720_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi All -- I left the list a few months ago, as I just got too busy and didn't >have time to read/respond. > >Well, I just had to sign back up to tell you that yesterday Caesar turned two >and I owe a lot of his greatness (and my sanity) to those of you who helped >me during those early frustrating puppy days and also those who provided >supprot and advice when he was diagnosed with displayia (sp). He seems to be >doing just fine, no pain, no slowing down on walks, playtime - but also loves >his couch and "his" bed -- he is a wonderful dog, friendly, extremely happy >and likes nothing more than when his family is all around him! > >During our vacation, we did not wish to board him and did our first dog >sitter at our home. He was GREAT -- the only thing, when we came home I felt >so bad. I assume he thought we must have died or something, because the girl >lived here with him for 8 days! He was SOOO excited (you can all imagine) >that we must have been his dream come true! > >Anyway - tha
playing fetch!
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Fetching a ball
Kate: My 2 year old Grace seems to have a really good retrieve for just about anything, which makes her a very good candidate for obedience. I understand that this is fairly rare in berners, but Grace will retrieve "fetch" just about anything, although the aluminum scent articles are her least favorite. If you haven't gotten into the sport of obedience, you might want to give it a try as it sounds as if Jet likes to please you as evidence his willingness to retrieve. I say, willingness to retrieve, because my 4 year old Ty loves to please, but sees no earthly reason to retrieve something I've "thrown away". Gracie Poo loves to run and, after a little training, started returning whatever I've threw. Good luck with Jet, as he seems you have a great companion even if you do not pursue obedience. Walt Smith w/ Ty and Grace Albuquerque, NM - Original Message - From: "kate puckett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: Re: BERNER-L digest 4313 > > Hi, I am just curious, do many of the Berners out there play fetch with a > ball? I get the idea that they usually don't. My almost 9 month old Jet > loves to play fetch, but it might be because he knows it makes me happy.
Nitrogen levels
Does anyone know what would cause an elavated nitrogen level in my Berner's blood work. Last year around this time Titan had eye surgery and we had a complete panel done on him. I was cleaning out some old files yesterday and took a better look at the blood work and saw that his nitrogen level was listed as "high." The vet never pointed this out to me so I never questioned him about it at the time. Any info? Janice Ward (Titan Faust) Pgh PA _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Remora is 10!!
Oro Valley Blackcoral Remora turned ten on Sunday March 9th! We celebrated with yummy goodies. She is still romping aroung like a puppy, and in good health. Happy Birthday to my Mor Mor Me Me dog. Dino and the Blackcoral Berner Bunch
Low-Cost Physical Fitness Program
> > You've seen those ads on TV promising amazing > results from all sorts of contraptions. Well, there's > no need to invest in fancy equipment. If you have > (or can borrow) a dog, you have everything you > need to get in shape now!!! The following exercises > can be done anywhere, anytime. > > Inner Thighs: Place the dog's favorite toy between > thighs. Press tighter than the dog can pull. Do not > attempt bare legged - dogs who favor shortcuts > to success will just dig the toy out. You could be > damaged. > > Upper Body Strength: Lift the dog - off the couch, > off the bed, out of the flower bed. Repeat, repeat, > repeat. As the dog ages, this exercise is reversed > onto the couch, onto the bed, into the car and so > on. > > Balance and Coordination, Exercise 1: Remove > your puppy from unsuitable tight places. If they're > too small for him, they're certainly too small for > you. Do it anyway! > > Balance and Coordination, Exercise 2: Practice > not falling when your dog bounds across the full > length of the room, sails through the air, and slams > both front paws into the back of your knees. > > Balance and Coordination, Exercise 3: (for use > with multiple dogs) Remove all dogs from lap and > answer the phone before it stops ringing. > > Balance and Coordination, Exercise 4: (alternate) > For older dogs, attempt to cross a room without > tripping over the dog. Get off your couch without > crushing any part of a sleeping elderly dog. > > Upper Arms: Throw the ball. Throw the squeaky > toy. Throw the Frisbee. Repeat until nauseous. > > Upper Arms: (alternate) Tug the rope. Tug the pull > toy. Tug the sock. Repeat until your shoulder is > dislocated or the dog gives up (we all know which > comes first). > > Hand Coordination: Remove foreign object from > dog's locked jaw. This exercise is especially popular > with puppy owners. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. > Remember, this is a timed exercise. Movements > must be quick and precise (think concert pianist) to > prevent trips to the vet, which only offer the minimal > exercise benefit of jaw firming clenches. > > Calves: After the dog has worn out the rest of your > body, hang a circular toy on your ankle and let the > dog tug while you tug back. WARNING: This is > feasible only for those with strong bones and small > dogs. Have you taken your calcium supplement > today? > > Calves: (alternate) Run after dog - pick any reason, > there are plenty. Dogs of any size can be used for > this exercise. Greyhounds are inadvisable. > > Neck Muscles: Attempt to outmaneuver the > canine tongue headed for your ear, mouth, or > eyeball. This is a lifelong fitness program. A dog > never too old or too feeble to "French Kiss" you > when you east expect it. > > * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
retrieve
My berners retrieve just fine! Of course, I have reinforced and shaped it but that is what we do with all behavior. Remember that in dog training it is always the owner and not the dog -- what we really should be saying is not that berners don't retrieve but that berner owners don't teach their dogs to retrieve :) Mary-Ann Bowman U-CD Emma, CDX, DD, CGC Abra, VCD1 (NA, NAJ, CD, TD), CDX, OA, DD, CGC Maize, VCD1, OA, DD, CGC Halo, puppy in training
new training trick and fetch
We live in a loft in NYC during the week where I also had a business. On weekends we go to our home on ten acres of land in the middle of nowhere in the Catskill Mountains. In the country our boy Oberon used to play fetch with a ball. He was great at chasing the ball, but never really wanted to return it. He mostly wanted me to chase him. Inside, in the city, whenever he was bored, we would play "find it." I would hide the toy of his choice while he waited from another room for me to say, "OK, find it." He would then go bounding and sniffing until he found the toy. The object was not only for him to find the toy, but also for him to deliver the toy to me. Of course we always played this game with tiny pieces of reward cheese and love and kisses. It was a wonderful game for us both. Whenever a messenger, or the UPS guy buzzed for a delivery, Ob's job was to greet them at the stair landing where he would receive the package and carry it in for me. He used to try to do this also with the pizza man... My experience with this breed is that they are VERY smart. They ASK questions, and WANT to learn. Ann Lee Fuller Oh, I miss my boy. Baypaths Oberon V Tallpines January 1993 -January 2003
Fetching or are berners retrievers?
I think the attitude about 'fetching' is .. you threw it away you obviously don't want it. They may go check it out .. but bring it back .. yea right. and please sign your posts. Teresa, with Patriot and Romeo, my two happy to be home non-retrieving berners. Albuquerque, NM - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 6:21 AM Subject: Re: BERNER-L digest 4314 > In a message dated 3/10/2003 12:04:30 AM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Hi, I am just curious, do many of the Berners out there play fetch with a > > ball? > > My Berer is fourteen months old and refuses to fetch anything! > retrievers
Buddy is a Inidouh
Oh Liz, Isn't it amazing that we have two Berners so alike?!? Buddy is a Inidouh -- Houdini backwards. He rushes to the fence, looks at it and does a sort of north-south-east-west visual investigation. Looks back at me with a pitiful expression with his tongue lolling pathetically, sighs loudly several times, drops his head into the snow and literally drags his nose around (this is body language that tells me he is just SO upset). Maria Catoctin Mountains, Maryland Home of Daisy and Buddy From: "Liz Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Berner List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:33 AM Subject: And... She's over Well, I didn't have to wait long for Roxie to give me the opportunity of telling Malcolm 'I told you so'!! As I was washing breakfast dishes this morning, I glanced up to see my Houdini dog slithering through a 9" gap in the fence - not bad for a 100lb dog! Malcolm is now outside in the pouring rain filling in all the gaps with more wire, just a makeshift solution until the rest of the fencing is delivered... Wouldn't life be dull without our babies? I just hope she's found all the gaps now, because my oh so patient husband is getting just a trifle fed up! . Liz in Scotland, with Roxie the Houdini Berner - but mum, there's grass over there and we've only got mud left!
Re: removing ticks
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Re: lawn fertilizer question
I've been following this thread with interest. Now I see that Janice and I are of the same mind. Kill crab grass?! Not me. If it wasn't for the wild crab grass and quack grass I'd have no grass at all! jane & the boys of iowa - Original Message - From: "Janice Parky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: lawn fertilizer question > Libby- > > I used the product from Garden's Alive that is made from corn gluten. It > was supposed to feed the lawn and kill weeds, I think??? It was recommended > to apply in the spring and again in the fall. I did the spring time > application. My guy went NUTS eating the tiny granules off the lawn, which > made me nuts. "Natural" or not, his obsessive snarffeling concerned me. > That summer I had the best crop of dandelions ever. I did not reapply in > the fall, because of Beau's snarffelingperhaps if I had, the next summer > the lawn would have looked better. > > I have given up and gone for what we here on Cape Cod refer to as the "Cape > Cod Lawn". Dandelions and all. > > Janice Parky > Cape Cod, MA > > > > > >
Dunbar
In a message dated 3/10/03 1:04:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Dear Marjie, My love and thoughts are sent to you and your precious Dunbar. I know how worried you are. Ann Lee Fuller Missing her beloved Oberon January1993-January 2003
Re: BERNER-L digest 4314
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RE: Housebreaking
Hi Jenn, Puppies generally will learn quickly but their actual ability to "cross their legs" and hold it doesn't come until five months. So keep up the vigilance but do start trusting puppy to have some run of the house, most likely he'll be close to you and will learn to "ask" to go out. It is not good for them to spend too many hours in a crate and they will learn that with gradually expanding their environment in the house that this is not a toilet either. Rose -Original Message- From: Jenn Waldron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 9, 2003 4:24 PM To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Subject: Housebreaking Hi Everyone, Charlie is 10 weeks old. He has been home for 2 weeks now. When should I expect house breaking to be done. Charlie is doing really well we are being very consistant. He has had very few accidents. He is still crated when he can't be directly supervised and is on a very good routine. I just cant wait until he can be out and about all the time. He goes on comand no and is only getting up once a night at 4 am. He also weighs 20 lbs now and I don't know how much longer I will be able to carry him outside. I love hearing everyones stories and memories so thank you all for sharing your experience and knowlege with me. Jenn and Charlie Gill, MA
Puppy Books
With my most recent litter I did two things for puppy owner education. First, deciding that they would be much too busy after the puppy arrived to learn what they might need to know, I did an e-mail series on common puppy topics before the puppies went to their new homes. This seemed useful and I got good feedback about the series. I am happy to share some of these short "articles" with anyone who might find them useful. Second, I sent each puppy home with the book "Building Blocks for Performance" by Bobbie Anderson. This is an excellent book for those with future performance dogs but also anyone who just wants to train his/her puppy. It was spendy ($20 or so per book -- ten puppies) but well worth it. Mary-Ann Bowman Utah
RE: (A long tale) Berners- expensive? Well...
Hi Liz, While I dislike any kind of electrical pulse fencing I would consider it if I had a dog like Roxie. Added to the physical fence and with the one dog wearing the collar it might have helped curb her enthusiasm for jumping the fence. Is Invisible Fence allowed in the UK?? Rose
Play ball
Hi, Baby Wilma loves playing with her tennis ball and will bring it to me but usually drops it on the way, we're working on that:-) In a house of twelve Berners she's the only one that consistently retreives for the fun of it. Some of the others will only do it once maybe twice and then figure it must be rubbish if I keep throwing it away! Rose T.
RE: new training trick
Hi Claudia, Careful about the forward roll, I had a lovely bitch who used to tumble like a chimp and one day she did it on a full stomach and torsioned herself. Missed out the bloat part just went straight to torsion. She was very fit and well muscled, a freak accident! Rose T. -Original Message- From: Claudia Brydon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 9, 2003 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new training trick Hi Darlene, My Berner, Boomer, hasn't learned anything new for a few months now. Haven't tried for a while. But he does roll over, play dead, beg, whisper, woof, BARK, several other tricks and loves agility, although at a relaxed pace. I'd be happy to tell you some of the methods I used to get him to learn these tricks but I don't want to cover them all at once as it would take a lot of computer time. So pick the trick and I'll describe my method. And maybe you'll come up with a trick that I haven't tried. If you do, I'll see if I can train it and pass on the results. Sounds like this could be fun. Maybe some others on the list will get in on this challenge as well. By the way, my Aussie, Barney, does a beautiful forward roll. As soon as Boomer gets a little older so that I know that his muscles and joints are fully developed, I'm considering getting him to do one too. Barney can already get him to do a modified roll when they're playing together. But, for this one, I may need assistance as 22 month old Boomer weighs too much to teach this using the same method as I did with my small Aussie. Just a point of interest... Most tricks need about 10 minutes for the dog to get the basics, especially if they're competing with one another for the treats. Then a couple of weeks of doing the trick occasionally makes it reliable. Claudia Brydon in NW PA Barney OA NAJ AD (Aussie) Boomer (Bernese Mountain Dog) would have several agility legs if not for knocking a bar each run Mo (Gordon Setter Granddog) has learned high five in spite of it not being natural for her to lift her feet. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: new training trick > Hi fellow Berner owners, > I have a fourteen month old male. I love working with him, but I can't get > him to do anything new. He sits, down, stay, heel, come. I want to teach > him roll over, play dead, beg, anything new! Any suggestions on how to train > a berner to do any of these things? He doesn't fetch, that's for the other > dog to do. But he'll chase the dog that went to fetch something. Well, he > is the joy of my life but I need new things to do with him. I have read that > they like jobs to do, but what? Please help! Also, do Berners do well in > agility classes? > > Thanks > > Darlene >
RE: Removing ticks
Hi Fran, When we were in Guyana there were beautifully built houses with big verandas and lots of hibiscus hedges in bloom. Even though Georgetown was very tatty and rundown there was a distinct air of colonialism in the architecture which lent itself nicely to the "gin and tonic" brigade. Hence the availability of gin, considered a cure-all! Besides the quinine in the tonic was good for malaria:-) Rose T.
Puppy books & getting started
In a message dated 3/9/2003 10:31:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 1) Your all time favorite puppy and/or training books (and believe me, I've > read many already, but I just want to be sure I'm not missing a really good > one! I'm living vicariously through my books now!) My favorite all around book for new owners is Taking Care of Puppy Business by Gail Pivar & Leslie Nelson. It's a booklet that covers a lot of topics in a sensible and easy to understand way...no jargon, just good information to help you understand your puppy and practical approaches to raising him. First time owners love this book and many breeders provide it to each of their puppy buyers. You can order Puppy Business from the online dog bookstore, www.dogwise.com, $7.95 (+ S&H) or from me. The authors have supported my use of the puppy books as a fund raiser by providing them at a greatly reduced cost. I sell them $6 each, Buy 10~ Get 1 Free (plus shipping). Out of the $6, $3 goes to the authors and $3 to the AKC/CHF BMD Health Fund to fund research into diseases that affect Bernese. > 2) Also, a funny question, out of curiosity, I was wondering how you all > started out with sleeping arrangements. I think a lot depends on the layout of your house and yard. What works for me is to set up a crate in the kitchen and either my husband or I sleep (in sweats this time of year) on the couch in the adjoining family room. That way I'm close enough to hear the puppy stir (indicating it's time for trip outside to potty). When he does, I can sweep him out of the crate and out the sliders in the FR to the yard before it's too late. If he stresses at all the first couple of nights I'll go to him, talk calmly with him, sit next to the crate, put my fingers through to touch him...that kind of thing. I find that what they're looking for at that point is not to get out of the crate, but the reassurance that they're not alone...they just want to know there's a pack leader about to take care of things. I let them know that I'm right there and there's nothing to fear. After the first fews nights away from their litter,most pups settle right in with the new routine, comfortable in the knowledge that you'll be there when they need you. Sometimes during the first week or so they'll wake up with a fright, much like a small child. At that point, my voice from the family room is sufficient to reassure him that I'm here and there's nothing to fear. What works in practice for you may be different...but the elements are the same. Leaving his home, breeder, and litter ...iow, everything he's ever known, is stressful for a puppy. My job is to help him understand that he doesn't have to worry, I have everything under control and he's not in any danger. I do this by being responsive to him with a calm air that *shows* him everything's fine...and by avoiding the temptation to feed into his fears with 'ohhh...poor baby'. -Sherri Venditti
Re: new training trick
In a message dated 3/9/2003 4:49:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > he is the joy of my life but I need new things to do with him. I have read > that they like jobs to do, but what? Jobs can range from bringing in the newspaper to draft work (many Berners *light up* when you put the harness on, especially if they're going to help you haul bags of mulch, etc) to tracking (they LOVE it!) to 'helping' you watch the baby. Think 'partnership' and be creative, you'll think of things that fit your lifestyle. > Also, do Berners do well in agility classes? Many Berners love agility. Look for a class with a skilled teacher who knows the difference between running a Border Collie and a BMD, work for control and precision...not speed at this point, keep jump heights low and minimize work that pounds on the front end like the full height A-frame. IOW, respect those young jointsthe growth plate may not be closed yet and still susceptible to damage. If your dog avoids specific obstacles without showing fear, consider that that particular activity may cause him pain and don't push it. As an example, I was taking agility classes with my mature bitch, she loved it...charged up the A-Frame, galloped the dog walk, etc ...Except for jumping. She would bail on even low jumps all the time. I knew her hips & elbows were good and she'd never limped a day in her life but the teacher kept asking me, "are you sure she's sound, not having a shoulder problem?, etc". I kept saying I know she's sound, she's just being a pill. Well, in retrospect...she probably wasn't just being difficult. A year or two later this bitch crashed with acute IMPA (auto-immune disease, pain in multiple joints). She's been treated for it for almost 2 years and is doing very well, looking at her move you'd never know there's anything amiss. However, she still has somewhat limited range of movement in her back. It's not something you can see, I know it only because I know her habits and the one 'back stretch' that she always did but now stops short of completling. I'd bet money that the reason she ditched on those jumps was that she was experiencing mild IMPA and it was uncomfortable for her. As Ruth R. would say, "Listen to your dog." -Sherri Venditti
And... She's over
Well, I didn't have to wait long for Roxie to give me the opportunity of telling Malcolm 'I told you so'!! As I was washing breakfast dishes this morning, I glanced up to see my Houdini dog slithering through a 9" gap in the fence - not bad for a 100lb dog! Malcolm is now outside in the pouring rain filling in all the gaps with more wire, just a makeshift solution until the rest of the fencing is delivered... Wouldn't life be dull without our babies? I just hope she's found all the gaps now, because my oh so patient husband is getting just a trifle fed up! . Liz in Scotland, with Roxie the Houdini Berner - but mum, there's grass over there and we've only got mud left!
Re: Climbing the walls
***apparently there is a 30 day waiting periord after the actual mating to determine pregnancy?*** I wish it were that easy! What tests will your breeder be doing to establish that in fact there are pups there? I am the kind of breeder who will wait patiently to what arrives at the end of the day, preferring not to take any actions that may compromise the litter, an exception being if I thought the bitch might be having a problem. Normally by about 5 weeks a change in the size of the bitch can be seen but this is not always the case as there may only be one puppy there (!) or she is carrying a small litter high up under the ribs. Some breeders will ask a vet to palpate but this is not always 100% accurate and other breeders may do a scan, but some believe that this can sometimes be a factor in puppies being resorbed. Any x-rays, if deemed necessary, should only be done in the last few days before the bitch is due to whelp. Marion Brown Teversal Bernese Mountain Dogs South Africa Dogs Never Lie About Love (Jeffrey Masson)
