Re: Rally Obedience 2004
From: Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hopefully, Rally will be a titling venue by the time of the 2004 Specialty. It was recommended by the AKC Obedience Advisory Committee. The best guesses so far is April of 2004 when it will officially happen. The current thinking is that it will be a whole separate venue from Obedience. Of course, all of this might change. It was the biggest obedience event for the 2003 Specialty and was financially quite successful. Hi Marjie, Were you not aware that there are too many of those annoying performance events at the National Specialty? Shame on those members who want to show their versatile dogs, or those members who want to compete and have fun with their dogs who are not as gifted in the conformation department - all you do, is create work and headaches for the specialty committee. Get a life, and make sure it is in the conformation ring. Tongue in cheek, Sharon Montville - Firstrax - Colorado P.S. I have heard it suggested that there should be 2 national specialties - one for conformation, and one for performance. What a lovely plan for encouraging the development of separate performance and conformation lines within our breed. NOT. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Mast Cell Tumors
Good morning everyone: It's been quite some time since I posted to this list. I hope that you all are well, and your Berners healthy! This week we received the news that our beautiful Heather, who is now five and a half years old, has cancer. She had a grade 2 Mast Cell Tumor removed last week. We, as you would all expect, are devastated. I would appreciate anyone who has personal experience dealing with the same situation emailing me with thoughts and suggestions. We need to make some decisions on how to proceed, and hearing from those who have navigated these waters before us would be a huge help. I am specifically interested in hearing about your experiences with chemo/radiation, and what the results were for you and your dog. I want my girl's time left with us to be happy and as pain-free as possible. My 13 year old daughter is beside herselfthis is her dog.and she wants to know why there isn't a pill we can give Heather to make this better...plus with my husband being out of the country on business since before this saga began, and not due to return for almost another 2 weeks.help! Very sad this early morning in MI... Jaye Carl, Heather and Lucy, the Sonrise Girls
RE: Mast Cell Tumors
Jaye, I'm sorry to hear about the tumor, but hopefully it will not be a problem for her going forward! I did write an article about the topic some number of years ago when my Maggie had one removed as well, and that article also compiled a number of List member experiences. You can find that and many other articles about Berner health issues on www.bmdca.org in the Health section. (Maggie had a tumor removed from her front leg when she was 6.5 years old, we didn't do chemo - which for mast cell is typically prednisone - nor did we do radiation. She had no recurrence of the mast cell and lived another 3 years.) One thing that will help people respond - does the vet think they got good clean margins when they removed the tumor? And where was the tumor? (Location doesn't really matter except that it does help with getting wide margins in some areas rather than others...) You hug Heather and Lucy for me, and share some bellyrubs with them too! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA -Original Message- This week we received the news that our beautiful Heather, who is now five and a half years old, has cancer. She had a grade 2 Mast Cell Tumor removed last week. We, as you would all expect, are devastated.
May I be franc?
I am curious as to how many francs are equal to how many USA dollars; in other words, how you convert. Second, an idea for a shirt: one that displays three or four of the most important websites or phone numbers for people to secure information regarding Berners. Lisa Allen _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: BERNER-L digest 4466
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A Bell?
I firmly recommend putting a bell on your dog's collar. Daisy has a small one and Buddy has a larger one so that I can hear who is who. Outdoors it lets the trespassing hunters know that the fiercesome bear is a domesticated animal. Indoors you know where your dog is. The bells ring in a very obvious manner when a dog tries to countersurf. Unfortunately Daisy has learned to press the bell against the counter -- she is just t sneaky. When walking in the woods, I always know where they are. I think I bought them at www.carealotpet.com -- they are very reasonably priced. Maria Crifasi home of Daisy and The Budman Catoctin Mountains, Maryland
RE: Brewers yeast
Hi, I give canned pink salmon in addition to Eukanuba Fish and Potato to my allergy dog and everything stays calm and the skin is good and elastic and the coat very shiny, while living in Denmark I noticed the lustrous coats on many breeds and a favorite dog treat there is dried herring and sardines, stinks to high heaven but the dogs love it. I agree with Susan that some dogs may have special requirements but if a dog has perpetual skin and coat problems then a full thyroid panel needs to be done. While the Berner tends to be on the low side of normal there are dogs that have clinical signs of dysfunction and need to be supplemented and checked regularly. Rose T.
RE: Pet Insurance- Consumer Report
Aargh!! Be careful when reading these types of articles and remember that they are talking in averages. Your average dog maybe lives to twelve years, middle height and middle size with just the basics of problems. NOW let us consider the Bernese, much as I love the breed the big health issues that can quickly bankrupt an owner are hip and elbow dysplasia, sock eating with resulting intersusception of the bowel, bloat with torsion, ACL stifle injuries, and cancer. Whether to buy or not to buy insurance is like playing Russian Roulette, just as with our health plans if we grow old with no health concerns and die in our sleep one night then those premiums are lost. BUT one big health issue and at least you don't have to scurry around to see if you can afford it. Murphy's Law:-) If you have it you don't need it and if you need it you don't have it! As a breeder I strongly recommend my buyers invest in insurance, not because I anticipate health problems but it provides a cushion of financial comfort if the need arises. With a good plan one doesn't have to go cheap on veterinary care. Rose T.
Re: weather viens
Sorry Liz for the previous blank message Aren't these the weather vanes that were auctioned in WV? Molly Hi All Came across these today: http://www.vtweatherworks.com/store/catalog/default.php They're expensive but very beautiful. Liz Murray Calgary Alberta
Re: Dog Bells
Try http://www.wholesalehunter.com/product/hallmark/halldes/coll.htm. There is a good, loud one there for only $4.00 and it includes a nylon collar strap! Liz Steinweg The Crew Blue Moon's Baloo Berry Torte Balou (11/06/95) Bobby Sox (husky-x 10/31/93) Rio Sahara (the Rat Cats) and in loving memory of my 1st BMD - Toby (6/29/97 - 6/30/00 lost to MH) Colorado Springs CO http://www.ccrtiming.com/personal/personal.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Swiss - or any - bell attached to the collar will help. At least you can hear the dog will know what direction to run towards! Pet Edge used to carry one that clipped on off easily yet securely but I haven't been able to find it for about a year. If anyone else knows where to get ont of these, I'd be most interested. Thanks.
Tilly
Hi, Pam, Very sorry to hear about Tilly. I had a girl who died of histiocytic sarcoma (a form of MH) more than three years ago. She too had anemia that would not respond to drugs (diagnosed initially as AIHA), inappetence, swollen spleen and liver. She was transfused three times (a universal donar at a vet teaching hospital), but could not hold onto her transfusions for very long; they were done to keep her alive so that hopefully a diagnosis could be made and she could then be treated successfully. Many tests were done, includng bone marrow tests. Except for the hemacrit and the platelets, her tests were often normal. She also tested postive for a tick borne illness (Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever), but when retested, she tested negative. I suspect the test picked up on the autoimmune disease process and that's why we got the false positive. Two pathologists disagreed regarding the bone marrow samples that were done. One said the samples were normal. The other said that a process called hemaphagicitis (sp?) was going on. Hemaphagicitis is when white cells start eating red cells--which leads to the anemia that cannot be controlled with drugs or even with spleen removal although perhaps pred can slow the process down a little. I think the spleen swells because of all the damaged cells and because of this process. Hemaphagicitis occurs in infections and in cancers. A food tube was installed (fairly minor surgery) so that she would not starve to death before a diagnosis could be made. Since she was not healing from this surgery, the vets decided to not remove the spleen. Also since her platelets were low, operating to remove a spleen would have been dangerous. She eventually was euthanized (the anemic part of the disease process was about two months but the fussiness regarding eating occurred about five months before that) without a diagnosis but after necropsy and examination at the vet teaching hospital (no cancer was found), I asked the tissues to be preserved at the teaching hospital. I then asked that tissue samples be sent to UC Davis for examination when I learned that the folks at UC Davis were specialists at diagnoses MH. I knew that MH was a common cancer in berners and someone else on the list had gotten a diagnosis for her girl from them and her girl had had similar symptoms. UC Davis diagnosed histiocytic sarcoma in a couple of weeks. Maybe you could call them and ask them if you could have your vet send them some bone marrow--and ask if that would be sufficient for a diagnosis--I don't know if it will be. Contact Peter Moore. You might end up with an inaccurate diagnosis or a superficial diagnosis without their help--or the help of an institution that is similarly knoweldgeable and equipped to diagnose this disease in berners. Again, very sorry to hear about Tilly's condition, Pam, and best wishes. Hope it isn't histiocytic sarcoma and that you can get an accurate diagnosis about what's going on as not knowing can add to the heart ache. If you do transfuse, try to find a universal donor--sometimes this is tough if you aren't at a teaching hospital or a big urban area. A universal donor (usually a greyhound) will be less likely to cause a reaction in your dog when the transfusion is done. Also try to transfuse before her hemacrit drops below 15. With my girl the transfusions became progressively less helpful but it was still nice to see her perk up and feel better for a little while. You probably will need to be testing her red cell level once a day now to know when she has dropped too low. Christy Kabler
need help with research
If anyone can help me with the following please email me privately. 1. Is there anyway to research pedigrees on line? 2. Nesselacker is a very familiar name in a lot of lines. I assume V Nessalacker or von Nessalacker refers to a kennel in Switzerland. Is there anyway of finding out more about this line (kennel)? 3. I have heard there is a show berner list but have not been able to find it, could someone clue me in. Thanks guys, I really need to find a job, I am making up my own research now. But I figured that I could make better use of this down time to find out more about the breed and try to understand the genetics better. I have some really good books but they just make me want to know more. Beverly Arnold, Han and Liesl Gainesville, Fl
OFA Heart
Good Afternoon Everyone: I'm just curious how many people do the OFA Heart screening for their berners? We're taking Patch (Apachi) to the vet this week to get his OFA x-ray for his hip and elbow, however my vet doesn't do the heart exam. Or at least he's never been asked to have it done before. When I asked him to do it for us, he recommended that I go to a cardiologist to get it done to ensure it's done right. I know it's not necessary to do the Heart exam, but it's something I would like to have done if I can. If you have done the OFA Heart exam with your berners, is there anything I should watch out for in terms of finding the right vet to do it? My big concern is whether or not the dog ever has to be anesthesized. From what I read on the OFA site, it seems like the entire Heart exam has to be done while the dog is awake and alert. Someone also mentioned to me that they sometimes have clinics at dog shows that do these exams. Has anyone heard of that? I've only heard of eye clinics being available at dog shows. OH!! By the way, Apachi is 2 years old today!!! Thanks, Karyn Waugh _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: weather vanes
Molly, Yes, that company DONATED a weather vane for the Health Fund Auction we had in West Virginia. They are just beautiful!! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aren't these the weather vanes that were auctioned in WV? Molly Came across these today: http://www.vtweatherworks.com/store/catalog/default.php Check any e-mail over the Web for free at MailBreeze (http://www.mailbreeze.com)
Re: Silverfish (DE)
DE can also be purchased at most home improvement stores in the pool section or at a pool supply store and it's usually cheaper there. Do be careful not to get it in your eyes - it's a very fine powder and flies everywhere and if you get it in your eyes it won't feel good at all! Andie Reid Wilmington, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon - One of the safer ways to eliminate crawling bugs is to sprinkle Diatomaceous Earth, available at gardening stores, in the dark places they tend to crawl. DE is a non-toxic powder. It is composed of the microscopic glass shells of aquatic plants and is used in things like swimming pool filters and toothpaste! However, if it gets wet, it loses its efficiency and needs to be reapplied. I would sprinkle it along the baseboards in the basement, under the sinks and other damp spots. It works on bugs by making tiny cuts in their outer skin and they dehydrate to death; purely mechanical - no chemical toxins. It is also pretty inexpensive. Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDI, 8 11/12 yrs. old Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yr. old Cavalier) Northern Illinois Annes4, Corr. Sec. BMDCA
Re: vaccines ??
My next question I have is over Vaccines..What are your opinions on the frequency of giving them? After the first initial puppy shots, should the usual annual boosters be given every year or every 3 years? Also I have read that I should wait till my girl is 6 months to give a rabies shot ?? any truth to that ?? Hi Lisa, I am a strong believer in less is best! I work closely with Jean Dodds of Hemopet (she has a web site) to determine the frequency of my vaccines. When I have a litter of pups I only vaccinate for parvo and distemper, first one no earlier than 8 weeks of age, then no more frequently than every 4 weeks for a total of 3 vaccines (8, 12, and 16 weeks). I wait until 6 months for both rabies and microchip - rabies for the strength of the pup's immune system and the law, microchip because there is more space to put it - but that is solely a personal preference. I recently attended a seminar with Wendy Volhard where there is new evidence that the pups can be protected up to 10 weeks depending on the mother's own immunity. They have found that vaccinating before the mother's immunity has faded can actually negate the first vaccine and make the pup more vulnerable than less vulnerable. She recommended that dams should be titred within either 2 weeks prior to whelping or two weeks after whelping to determine how long the pups are protected by her immunity. It also has some relation to how long the pups nurse. I intend to learn more about this prior to my next litter. When my younger male was 2, I had him titred instead of vaccinated - all his levels showed ample protection. I have not vaccinated my 11 year old since 1998, except for rabies, and I have skipped my 6 year old and will titre the 3 year old and the 20 month old. I do give the one year boosters although I am tempted to titre the pups at one year versus vaccinating. Basically next summer everyone will be titred. Congrats on your new pup. Molly and the gang Charlottesville, VA
Re: Oozing Cyst!
Hi Laura and Baka, Good to see that Baka's lump has gone down even if is messy at the moment. our appointment with the vet is friday. in the meantime, does anyone have any home treatment suggestions - anything i should do to take care of it, prevent it from getting infected, etc? or should i just let it alone till friday? You can just swab with ordinary human antiseptic, TCP or whatever, however if is still oozing, I would be very inclined to treat with hot (but not too hot to scald) salt water. Just moisten a pad and hold against the sore spot to help draw out any nastiness remaining in there. Repeat several times and clean away any yukky stuff. Do this several times a day until looks like it's clean and drying up. The salt is a natural antiseptic and won't hurt Baka if she goes licking at the spot. All love, Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Longlease Gang http://bernese.biz
Consumer reports article
Hi all, First let me say that I have no personal experience with the pet health insurance so I am not commenting on that portion of the article. However, just for another perspective on the Consumer Reports article, it would be worth your time to really think about this article before running off to the vet with it. This article is basically telling people to shop for vet care for their living, breathing, loved pet in the same way that you would shop for a stove or sofa, an inanimate object. Being in the veterinary field, I know that Dr. John Doe down the street offers significantly cheaper prices than my clinic does. I also know that the level of medicine there is low quality. The guy doesn't even recommend heartworm preventative for our area, where you definitely need it and had assistants doing cat neuters! The saying you get what you pay for comes to mind with this article. I'm not saying don't go get second opinions or anything (I myself have taken Chance for 3rd 4th opinions), but listen to what your vet is telling you. Depending on a pet's problem, there may not be time for 2nd and 3rd opinions. It also states that many vets run extra, unneeded tests in order to make the bill highter. In the 4 vet hospitals that I've worked in, this has never been the case. This article was written with the wrong emphasis. It should have talked about getting value for your money at the vet hospital, not how cheap can you get the services... For the American Veterinary Hospital Association's take on the article, please visit- http://www.avma.org/press/releases/consumer_reports_030612.asp Sorry for venting, Andrea Stefanac, LVT (those vet fees pay my salary!) Chance Barkley Richmond, VA __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: Silverfish (DE)
In a message dated 06/18/2003 1:32:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DE can also be purchased at most home improvement stores in the pool section or at a pool supply store and it's usually cheaper there. Do be careful not to get it in your eyes - it's a very fine powder and flies everywhere and if you get it in your eyes it won't feel good at all! The fineness of the pool filter grade is the reason I suggested getting the type found in the garden center, garden grade is somewhat coarser. The pool filter grade is not as effective for bug killing as the nursery type. In any case, like any fine powder, don't get it in your eyes or breathe it. It is quite irritating to mucus membranes, for the very reason it works on the bugs. Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDI, 8 11/12 yrs. old Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yr. old Cavalier) Northern Illinois Annes4, Corr. Sec. BMDCA
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
Susan (co chair of 2003 specialty) was very supportive of Rally in Long Beach. She helped immensely with set up and anything else I asked, (remember the sod incident ?) Susan even managed to show her dog in obedience, all the while running around like a crazy woman to make sure everything was perfect for the attendees. How she kept sane, I'll never know! As I understand, she is not a member of the 2004 committee and so would not have had any input into the 2004 agenda. Including her name in this discussion was inappropriate. Marjie Pat Tackett wrote: Marjie, Those were my arguments with the 2004 Show committee, I was blasted out of the water though for even quizzing about it being offered. Maybe others can sway Cindy Still, Helen Thornton, Denise Dean and Susan Henderson minds about being open to offer Rally Obedience -- they all say there is not enough time to offer it :-( Pat T. Texas
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
Is it really fair to second guess every decision a Specialty comittee makes? I can understand the concerns about the Lancaster County issue -- I'm not arguing the merits of the boycott, I'm much more concerned about the potential of people being unwilling to attend because of it. But now that a NEW performance event isn't being offered, people are vocally up in arms again and calling for pressure to be put onto the *volunteer* comittee? Specialties are major projects for the comittees and sometimes hard choices have to be made. Occasionally, new stuff will be tried -- some will be popular, some won't. With Rally so new and so few people having had an opportunity to see or participate in it, it may not naturally have been included in the original schedule plan (which would have been in the works _well_ before this year's Specialty). Added to that the time, space and WORKER constraints endemic to specialties, it seems somewhat unfair to make such an issue of this at this time. Want Rally at BMDCA specialties in the future? Lobby for it and, as an added carrot, volunteer to help make it a reality. Make comittees lives miserable by telling them what they're doing wrong on a regular basis and you'll have to content yourselves with whatever is left on the local level since no one in their right minds will wish to subject themselves to the intense scrutiny, abuse and ridicule. If something had to 'give' to allow time/space/volunteers for Rally, what would you give up? Maybe Veterans Obedience? Drafting? Futurity? Preferred Agility? Puppy Sweeps? Specialties are notorious timehogs and there will be plenty of the inevitable laments about the Specialty requiring too much time for it to be attended in its entirety. Sometimes something old has to move to allow the new. But traditions are hard to break and even the 'old stuff' has its supporters. Push (politely) for change but please don't allow one omission from ruining the Specialty for everyone. By this time, even adding Rally could be difficult at best even if the comittee decided to do so. It's no as easy as simply deciding to make it so. All my hopes, Vicky and the Horde Seleya
Re: BERNER-L digest 4467
HI these postings come out frequently! - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4467 BERNER-L Digest 4467 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by Sharon Montville [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) RE: Archives, on CD by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Mast Cell Tumors by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) Silverfish by george hasenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) RE: Mast Cell Tumors by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) May I be franc? by Lisa D Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: Mast Cell Tumors by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) Re: May I be franc? by DCD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) archives?? by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) Re: BERNER-L digest 4466 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) A Bell? by Maria Crifasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) RE: Brewers yeast by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Guess who is 10! by Beatriz Insausti [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) RE: Pet Insurance- Consumer Report by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) weather viens by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Re: weather viens by Molly Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) Re: Dog Bells by Liz Steinweg Crew [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Tilly by Christine Kabler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) need help with research by Beverly Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) OFA Heart by Karyn Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Re: weather vanes by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) Berner weekend... by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Re: OFA Heart by Ruth Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by Pat Tackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Re: Silverfish by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Re: Silverfish (DE) by Andie Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) vaccines ?? by MARK DUVALL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) Re: Pet Insurance- Consumer Report by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) Re: vaccines ?? by Molly Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) Re: Oozing Cyst! by Jean Cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) How to stop barking by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32) Consumer reports article by Andrea Stefanac [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33) Re: Silverfish (DE) by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 34) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 35) Re: BERNER-L digest 4466 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 36) Re: Rally Obedience 2004 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Silverfish help
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Water change-?
BlankDear Listers, Well Stevie and I are making the final big move into the city this Friday afternoon, (2 more sleeps!!). I would just like to ask if anyone has any experience in regards to changing Stevie's drinking water. Of course, Stevie and I have lived in the country the whole time he has given me the priviledge of being his Mum, so I am a little concerned with making the change. The city water would have chemicals in it that he is not used to, would this cause him distress? Such as upsetting his stomach or his bowels? Bottled water has been suggested, but since I am on sick leave (still!) and have a very fixed income now, I just don't think that it would be financially affordable, also I don't think that I am able to handle the big bottles by myself any longer. It will be a big adjustment for both of us, going from living in a huge 6 bedroom house with 2 and a half acres of yard, to a 2 bedroom apartment, with very little yard and no freedom!! I see many walks in our future. It has been very difficult indeed trying to locate an apartment that actually accepts dogs, especially as big as my gentle giant, does anyone out there have any experience in dealing with having a Berner in an apartment? There are definite pros and cons I am sure, I am quite aware of the cons, but just need some reassurance about the pros. Wish us luck!! I think we will need it for the first little while. Berner hugs Karen and Stevie NB, Canada
allergy help
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Tilly
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Re: mast cell cancer/francs
When my sweet and sensitive Berner, Jorda, was four years old, a mast cell tumor was removed from her foot. Our regular veterinarian removed it; he is a skilled and talented surgeon who has tremedous experience with many Bernese and has been doctor to my dogs since 1983. I do not know the grade of the tumor. Jorda was put on a medicine whose name begins with a t, to the best of my recollection. This was back in 1990. Every six months until she was ten years old, our veterinarian would do Xrays to ascertain there was no return of the mast cell cancer. It turned out that it had been surgically cured as it never returned. Jorda crossed the Bridge at age thirteen years two weeks two days (large cell lymphoblastic lymphosarcoma). If you would like more information about her treatment, I can give you our DVM's clinic number. Thank you for the information about francs; a friend asked me about the conversion and I had no idea. Lisa Allen _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Pet Insurance
Consumer reports aside, we are VERY glad to have signed up for pet insurance. We're with PetPlan in Canada, and took the Champion plan (while he'll never see a show ring, Vandal's a champion to us). It includes coverage for preventative measures (vaccine, microchip, dental) as well as neutering (in just six short days Vandal - lick 'em while you got 'em!). Anyway, to date we have received from PetPlan over $1300 in refunds, beyond the annual $200 deductable and 20% co-insurance. We've had some (okay - many) gastro-intestinal issues to sort through, so trips to the vet have been more frequent than we would like. Our monthly premium is $65. Sadly, we have been informed that while we still have coverage for life, the co-insurance will be bumped to 50%, meaning that they will only cover half of all costs effective July 1, to be reviewed every 6 months. Even at 50% we would have received our premiums back this year. Still, the peace of mind alone is worth $65. We will never make a choice based on cost, only what's best for Vandal. Mike, Deanna and Vandal p.s. hi Tess - 1st birthday coming soon!
BMD in Las Vegas
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2004 Rally Obedience
Okay, no flames please, this is just a personal opinion. I would hope the 2004 committee could find a time slot for Rally Obedience. Maybe it could be offered at a time when other 'optional' events are offered, such as the 'rodeo bbq dinner'. Give folks a choice as to what they might like to do. Hmmm, I will volunteer to help with this as long as I can still compete. Rally-O is such a positive obedience experience. Hope it can be added but I understand if it is to late. What would be the proper channel to follow to try to make Rally-O a part of future specialties. Seems it's not so long ago that agility was in this same boat? Susan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
tag on upper jowl!
Hey L'ers! My six month old pup Rudy has a skin tag or something on his upper jowl. It looks like a sea urchin made out of skin. Ideas or thoughts on what it is or what could be the cause? Thanks! Lisa Stucke Toronto
Re: 2004 Rally Obedience
If rally obedience was offered at the 2004 specialty I'd help out too. The only reason I wouldn't do rally is if it conflicted with another performance event I entered. Kathy Schmitz, Woodstock, Georgia Brighteye Meine Liebe Greta OAP, NJP, CGC Mattie Matterhorn Princess CD, NA, CGC Gunner (in loving memory and together again at the bridge)
Re: need help with research
Hi Beverly There are a couple of sites where you can research pedigrees. Try these 2 for starters http://www.breedbrowsers.com/Berners/index.html or http://www.bernerped.com/ Cheers Craig Phillips
hot weather haircut?
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Re: Water change-?
I might suggest you fill several containers that you can lift (1 gal. of water weighs approx. 8 pounds!) to take with you when you move. This way you can gradually switch Stevie over to new water. Instead of buying bottled water, you might look for the water filters that either fit on the sink spigot or the pitchers that filter the water. They do remove the chemicals but not microbial contamination - at least most of them don't filter out the bugs - but if you are using city water, the chlorine added will have taken care of that anyway. I have a 1/2 gal. Britta pitcher and Flash definitely prefers the water from that over the sink tap water. The filter must be changed every 8 weeks but it only costs about $5 US on sale if you buy in 3 packs. Good luck on the move! Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDI, 8 11/12 yrs. old Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yr. old Cavalier) Northern Illinois Annes4, Corr. Sec. BMDCA
Re: hot weather haircut?
In a message dated 06/18/2003 11:17:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what peoples thoughts were on giving my neutered 1 1\2 year old Quinn a summer trim. I would appreciate peoples feedback and hearing about other's experiences. Because of Chicago areas high humidity and temperatures, plus the fact I do not have air conditioning at home, I have Flash's belly and inner thighs shaved in the summer so that when he lies on the tile floors or the damp soil, he has as much skin surface contacting the cool area. I also comb and brush out as much undercoat as I possibly can, leaving the outer coat to protect his skin from sun and bugs. I used to do the same thing with all my heavy coated sled dogs in the summer. Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDI, 8 11/12 yrs. old Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yr. old Cavalier) Northern Illinois Annes4, Corr. Sec. BMDCA
Re: hot weather haircut?
Sterling gets the same thing that Flash does. After his summer trim, I see him laying on the hearth rocks to absorb the coolness. I add one area, however. The, ah, undertail area also gets shaved. Sterling has a very heavy coat and as he gets older, that area isn't as daisy-fresh (apologies to Maria) as it was. Shaving helps with keeping things clean :-) Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of Chicago areas high humidity and temperatures, plus the fact I do not have air conditioning at home, I have Flash's belly and inner thighs shaved in the summer so that when he lies on the tile floors or the damp soil, he has as much skin surface contacting the cool area. I also comb and brush out as much undercoat as I possibly can, leaving the outer coat to protect his skin from sun and bugs. I used to do the same thing with all my heavy coated sled dogs in the summer.
Re: tag on upper jowl
Hi Lisa Rudy's sea urchin is very probably an oral wart which is the result of the canine papilloma virus. These oral warts are very common in young dogs and you may find more of them appearing in the next little while. Sisco contracted the virus when he was about 8 months old and had warts in his mouth and on his tongue. His were never so bad that they caused him any distress. We were told, and confirmed through research and our vet, that this condition will spontaneously clear up after about 2 - 3 months and then the dog will be immune to further outbreaks, and in fact, this is exactly what happened with Sisco. Some dogs will develop them in the throat or other locations which really bother them, and in that case, the vet can take them off in a simple procedure, but most of them are never a problem. I would just confirm with your vet that this really is the c.p.v. and then wait it out. One thing we learned is that Vitamin C seems to aid in clearing it up. So we supplemented him with daily C as well as a Multi-vitamin. Sisco's case took about 3 months to disappear entirely and he's never had a recurrence. Cheers! Fran Jones West Vancouver, BC -- Fran Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] SportSound Music:http://www.geocities.com/franinvancouver Phone: 604-926-0084 Fax: 604-926-9543
Friends please read from Karen Alexander
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