Re: Freedom Spot-On (Was Frontline)
In a message dated 3/19/2003 4:19:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Here is the web site for the Freedom Spot-On if you want to check it out. > I'm impressed by the price, and not so impressed by the claims because I've > often found that products that seem too good to be true usually is. > http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?PGGUID=A51D4BD2-E2F6-4194-8D87- > 0EAF4F857EE4&ccd=IDW003 This is similar to the traditional flea & tick products in which the active ingredient is pyrethrin (extracted from chrysanthemums) or permethrin (the synthetic equivalent). These compounds are neurotoxins to one degree or another in most species, birds and fish are especially sensitive to it. These compounds have been used as broad spectrum insecticides for many years. The newer veterinary products are far more species specific in the mechanism they target. For example, Program blocks the development of chitin...critical to the development of fleas, but not a component of mammals makeup. I'm sorry, I don't recall the exact mechanism and species limitation for Frontline but you should be able to find it online. -Sherri Venditti
Re: Freedom Spot-On (Was Frontline)
I've always used Frontline on my dogs and have always been happy with the results. I've never had any bad side affects from the use of it, and my dogs rarely come up with ticks. Recently, just a few minutes ago, a co-worker told me about Freedom Spot-On for dogs. I have no idea about this product, and just curious if anyone has used or heard of it and how it compares? The product makes alot of claims about what it can do, and the price is ALOT less then what I pay for Frontline. I have 4 dogs all over 100 pounds so it gets a bit pricey by the end of summer. Here is the web site for the Freedom Spot-On if you want to check it out. I'm impressed by the price, and not so impressed by the claims because I've often found that products that seem too good to be true usually is. http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?PGGUID=A51D4BD2-E2F6-4194-8D87-0EAF4F857EE4&ccd=IDW003 You might have to copy and past the url. Thanks, Karyn Waugh _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Biospot (was: Frontline)
In a message dated 03/18/2003 7:53:16 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Any opinions on this brand , Biospot ??? >> I used this one time each on my Rottie and my Berner and both had a nasty skin reaction at the point of application. It took weeks to clear up. I have heard this happening on many other dogs who have had this applied. I'm guessing there is something in the carrier that is extremely harsh and irritating. When I apply Revolution (Heartworm preventative, flea killer, wormer, miticide) the dogs take no notice at all. When I applied the Biospot, they ran around the house/yard, rubbed their backs on the floor and generally appeared distressed - This from my usually stoic Rott as well as the normally blase Flash!! Then they got rashes, lost hair in the application site, developed small blisters/sores. I won't use it, won't recommend it. Anne Copeland, Flash,TDI/CGC (Berner, 8 1/2 yrs.) & Gypsy TDI/CGC(Rescue Cavalier,2 yrs.) BMDCSEW Tracking Test Chair/Sec. NE ILL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ty's memorial page: http://www.geocities.com/workingyorkie/ty.html Gypsy's page:http://hometown.aol.com/annes4/Gypsy.html
Frontline/Biospot
Reposted in plain text :-(. Please don't strangle me Pat !!! Thanks for all the responses ! WOW ! There are too many to respond to individually , LOL ! I've gotten a wide range of opinions , which I expected (including bad reactions) and I think I'll stick with the Frontline for now :-). I was initially looking at the Biospot because of the price. Luckily , I don't have a flea "problem" , but need to keep dogs covered during the summer months. Again , thanks to all who responed , Laurie Montoya w/ Hannah , Shelby the Wonder Mutt , and a "guest"
Frontline/Biospot
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Re: Frontline
Hi Everyone- I was told by my holistic vet last year, that Frontline is the only tick product that does not work systemically. In other words...it does not enter the bloodstream and infect the internal organs of the pets. It only works from the hair follicle level. From what I understand, the tick does not have to bite the dog...it only needs to have contact with the skin/hair. Applying the product correctly is crucial. A pharmaceutical rep recommended to me that we instruct clients to remove leather and nylon collars prior to applying the product, so it can travel to the skin on the dog's head without getting absorbed by the collar. It is also important to get the full amount inside the vial onto the pet's skin...not the hair around the application site. The product is wasted if it is only emptied onto the hair itself. Another important step is to not bathe the dog (or cat) at least 2 days either before or after the Frontline application. An oily haircoat helps the product work most effectively. As other listers have stated...remember, Frontline (and other products such as BioSpot, PrevenTic Collars, etc) are not 'repellants'...you WILL find ticks on your pet. The objective is to make them neurologic and kill them before they have the opportunity to transmit disease...OR crawl off the dog or cat and climb on you instead. Take care, Jennie Hoffnagle Glenmoore, PA
Ang: Re: Frontline/BIOSPOT
Hi, I used Biospot 2 summers ago to my Vincent. I called Bayers in Sweden and they did not like to tell me what Biospot contains of, it was a secret. They said, maybe ecalyptus - but no real answer. I saw ads - how natural Biospot would be. Biospot didn´t work and it also hurt the skin. Meaning I just used it once and not again. Think I will try garlic this summer. Margareta Strand Stockholm I was looking into a product called " Biospot " that I saw in the Drs Foster and Smith catalogue. It's supposed to kill fleas, ticks AND mosquitos. Well, maybe they mean repellent in the case of the mosquitos. Has anyone used this to any effect ?? It's also a LOT more affordable than Frontline. I always use Frontline , and haven't seen a flea in years. On the tick side of things , I've been lucky with the dogs. Lyme is a BIG concern in my area. I've had it and wouldn't wish it on a dog :-(. Any opinions on this brand , Biospot ???Thanks !! Laurie Montoya S. Central PA.
Re: Frontline
Here in tick country USA (aka the Sierra Nevada foothills) I use a product called Preven-tic. Its a collar that looks like a flea collar and has been very successful. Its specific for ticks. I write the date I first use it on the collar so I don't forget to change it as its only good for 3-4 months. It can be ordered from some catalogs or bought at the vets office. Marjie -missing Dunbar
Re: Frontline
Laurie, The active ingredients in BioSpot is: 45% Permethrin 5% Pyriproxyfen The down side to the permethrins that I've found by doing a quick scan are: it is toxic to cats in the quantity needed to be effective on dogs it is not waterproof and will wash off it has been in use for 20 years and many fleas are now resistant I believe the pyriproxyfen is an insect growth regulator? Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Frontline
I was looking into a product called " Biospot " that I saw in the Drs Foster and Smith catalogue. It's supposed to kill fleas, ticks AND mosquitos. Well, maybe they mean repellent in the case of the mosquitos. Has anyone used this to any effect ?? It's also a LOT more affordable than Frontline. I always use Frontline , and haven't seen a flea in years. On the tick side of things , I've been lucky with the dogs. Lyme is a BIG concern in my area. I've had it and wouldn't wish it on a dog :-(. Any opinions on this brand , Biospot ???Thanks !! Laurie Montoya S. Central PA. > Maria, > > Unlike most of the topical solutions, Frontline's TopSpot does not need the > tick or flea to bite in order to die. The Fipronil is stored under the skin > and in the oil glands - it is NOT systemic for the dog. > > Pat Long (& Luther) > Berwyn PA
Re: Frontline
Maria, Unlike most of the topical solutions, Frontline's TopSpot does not need the tick or flea to bite in order to die. The Fipronil is stored under the skin and in the oil glands - it is NOT systemic for the dog. Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Frontline
Pat, Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tick has to bite the dog in order to die. Also, the tick must be removed within 24 hours or can impart whatever it is infected with --??? Am I right? I use Frontline Plus but will be using Frontline (without the Plus) since it showed no added benefits. I do not put it on once a month. The ticks I pull off are either dead or sluggish. When they are a tad livelier, I reapply Frontline so I'm putting it on about every 6-8 weeks, not 4 weeks. Right now I have about 25% snow which will probably disappear today. Everything is thick and muddy and oozy. I am anticipating a difficult tick/flea/mosquito filled Spring. Sigh. No one has mentioned a spray deterrent. They don't work?? Maria Crifasi Home of Daisy and The Budman Catoctin Mountains, Maryland - Original Message - From: "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:39 AM Subject: RE: Frontline > Rhona, > > I've been using Frontline TopSpot for years now, it's the best tick > product that I've ever found. Maybe it's only designed for American > ticks? It's not a repellant, but it is supposed to kill the vermin > within 18 hours of their getting onto the dog. I've always found it to > be very effective. > > Pat Long (& Luther) > Berwyn PA > >
RE: Frontline
Rhona, I've been using Frontline TopSpot for years now, it's the best tick product that I've ever found. Maybe it's only designed for American ticks? It's not a repellant, but it is supposed to kill the vermin within 18 hours of their getting onto the dog. I've always found it to be very effective. Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Frontline
Louis had a tick on his face yesterday. We don't usually see that many here in The Netherlands. Interesting though that when we go home to England the vet here is required to dose Louis with various pills and Frontline before they allow us in the country! How silly is that, when it appears the product doesn't work! Rhona Vantine and Louis __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Frontline info
Chance had the same reaction to Frontline, and one of the techs at my vet, who is not in today, said to bath him immediatly in some kid of soap that I couldn't remember, so I called Frontline and they said to use any regular dish soap like Palmolive, etc. It pulls the residue off the skin and dries it out. It did work well for my Chance, but it may be too late for your your dog. Their number is 800-660-1842, Maybe Benedryl would help, but I would ask first! Tailwags from Snowey CT, Daisy and Chance
RE: Frontline Allergic Reaction
Hi Kaethy, Sounds like Ginger found the Frontline irritating and scratched and in doing so set herself a nice "hotspot". Here's my recommendation:-) Trim the fur from the affected areas with a one inch margin and bathe gently with Hibitaine Soap, rinse and pat dry with paper towel. Do not rub or use a heated dryer but you can use the dryer with a cool setting but shouldn't be necessary. Ask the vet for a corticosteroid topical spray, I use Topagen, and spritz twice a day. DO NOT use polysporin as it has a greasy base and hot spots need air to heal. If the area spreads and looks particularly nasty or she raises a temperature (normal is 38.5C) then she needs antibiotics. You can also give Benedryl or other antihistimine and your vet can prescribe dosage. Keep her from scratching further and if necessary put an old cotton T-Shirt on her. Rose T.
RE: Frontline Allergic Reaction
HELP!! Our 14 month old, "Ginger" was given Frontline a week and a half ago, after visiting a friends house that had a serious flea infestation. (I wouldn't have taken the dogs over there had I known, as our own house has been fairly flea free for quite some time.) Anyhow, I applied Frontline to her shoulder blades. I didn't notice anything strange at first, and then the following week she started itching a lot. By the time we checked to see what she was scratching, the skin had bubbled, scabbed and was oozing in some places. This all happened in the path and the exact places the Frontline had been applied! I've applied Neosporin to the scabbed areas, and cleaned off the oozing skin. Our vet recommended we try Desenex Baby Powder on the oozing skin, and she would see us in a week if it didn't get better. I've never applied baby powder when I have an oozing skin condition, so this didn't seem the correct recommendation. (?) Does anyone have a similar experience or any advice as to how to proceed? We were afraid to give her a bath, but I'm thinking I should bathe her with some gentle antibacterial soap, and then let the skin "air out" before re-applying some Neosporin to the scabby areas. We felt that giving her a bath would also help relieve the skin from the Frontline that is probably still on there. Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated! Thank you thank you thank you!!! Kaethy and a Very Uncomfortable Ginger - "Mom, are you SURE you know what you are doing?"
Re: Frontline
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Re: Viability of Frontline Plus
I was wondering the same thing too. I found two dead engorged deer ticks on the floor, one on my puppy, one on one cat and 7 ticks in various states of engorgement(?) on my old cat. I put Frontline Plus on all three pets in mid-October. I couldn't sleep that night - I was so itchy!! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Viability of Frontline Plus > In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:29:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The last time I dosed my dogs was August 22. Frontline advises a > > one-a-month application for protection against ticks but I wonder about > > that. If I am still finding dead ticks, isn't the Frontline still > working?? > > I should add that during the summer when I was dosing once a month, I > > removed ticks both alive and dead as well. > > Funny you should ask... ;-} > > It's been a terrible tick season here of late...especially the deer > ticks...the ones that most often transmit Lyme disease. And I've been > wondering about Frontline. I dosed the dogs early in Oct. Two & three weeks > later was finding dead or dying, but fully engorged ticks. Made me really > wonder if the Frontline's killing them before they have a chance to pass the > Lyme causing spirochete and also whether the ticks are becoming resistant to > the fipronil (active ingredient in Frontline)... > > Geez I HATE ticks!!! > Sherri Venditti >
Re: Viability of Frontline Plus
In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:29:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The last time I dosed my dogs was August 22. Frontline advises a > one-a-month application for protection against ticks but I wonder about > that. If I am still finding dead ticks, isn't the Frontline still working?? > I should add that during the summer when I was dosing once a month, I > removed ticks both alive and dead as well. Funny you should ask... ;-} It's been a terrible tick season here of late...especially the deer ticks...the ones that most often transmit Lyme disease. And I've been wondering about Frontline. I dosed the dogs early in Oct. Two & three weeks later was finding dead or dying, but fully engorged ticks. Made me really wonder if the Frontline's killing them before they have a chance to pass the Lyme causing spirochete and also whether the ticks are becoming resistant to the fipronil (active ingredient in Frontline)... Geez I HATE ticks!!! Sherri Venditti
Viability of Frontline Plus
Since it has been raining fairly steadily (after a long, long period of drought), we are pulling off a record number of dog ticks! Some are alive but most are dead. One was found, bloated, on the floor. The last time I dosed my dogs was August 22. Frontline advises a one-a-month application for protection against ticks but I wonder about that. If I am still finding dead ticks, isn't the Frontline still working?? I should add that during the summer when I was dosing once a month, I removed ticks both alive and dead as well. Thanks in advance. Maria Crifasi Catoctin Mountains, Maryland
