RE: dog with a mission

2003-07-15 Thread us
re: All you can do is keep working on your recall commands and spit it which
is a term I use to get my dogs to leave their nylabones in the house when
they try to take them outside where the lawnmower chomps them up!
thanks Rose,
we will keep doing this, she will come with her 'new toy' when called as 
she is quite proud of herself!
However her command give it seems to be said much too quitely - that 
selective hearing thing, so we will work on that.
She has been trained by the cattle around us not to go too close to big 
animals so I think the local deer will be fine, they pass through our 
garden a lot (just to eat our new trees). Hens are kept by pretty much 
everyone around - not fenced apart from their land, just free range inside 
the boundaries but the boundaries are all fenced and guarded by dogs 
(mostly hunting dogs)! When we go past other people's she is on leash, but 
at my parent she had to learn leave it with regards to the ducklings 
and she was okay with this once she realized we were serious!
She is wormed regularly and I keep an eye on the poop just to check if she 
needs it before the scheduled time!
We will think about what we plant where with regards to a balance between 
Tatty and the wildlife. I suspect next year the birds will nest in the oaks 
and not the base of the rhododendron! The swallows are safe in the pig shed 
eaves...
Emma and Tatty (but aren't I clever) in France

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RE: dog with a mission

2003-07-15 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
This didn't make it to the List yesterday:


Rose,

Berners can catch those cheeky chipmunks! Maggie caught one! All right,
so Luther chased it right at her and she sort of caught it by accident.
But she was so pleased with herself! Then she got confused enough when I
gave her my happiest GOOD GIRL! Drop it! command, that she actually
dropped it!

Then there was the time a squirrel fell out of a tree onto Vesta - who
caught it. She was terribly hurt when I asked her to drop it, but I did
praise her effusively. However - she sat under that tree for months
looking up in excited anticipation...

Then of course there was the famous cow tongue in the park with Hannibal
incident...

Pat Long ( Luther)
with memories of the amazing Berner hunters
Berwyn PA




Re: dog with a mission

2003-07-15 Thread Maria Crifasi
 Then of course there was the famous cow tongue in the park with Hannibal
 incident...

 Pat Long ( Luther)
 with memories of the amazing Berner hunters
 Berwyn PA


thinking of all these wonderful hunting dog stories, I believe that Daisy
never really hunted anything  -- unless you count human food.  On the other
hand, I remember many times witnessing Buddy's Lizard Launch method of
hunting.  He would simply sit there, not anticipating anything. A moth would
flutter near him. In a flash his VERY long tongue would whip out, snag the
hapless moth and whip back -- all this without him moving or changing
expression. Then, of course, there was that toad he swallowed in one gulp.
Ever palpate your puppy's tummy and FEEL the poor thing fluttering around?

Maria Crifasi
Catoctin Mountains - home of every toad in Maryland



RE: dog with a mission

2003-07-15 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Emma,
Mature roundworms are easy to see if they are shed in the faeces but
tapeworm can be difficult to spot. You might see tape segments that look
like a grains of rice at the anus on in the fur near the anus other than
that there is no long piece of spagetti! Advanced tape infestation can
make a dog's coat very dull, ravenous appetite and a general look of
unthriftiness with a potty belly (which can have other causes). When I had
cats and a flea problem many moons ago I routinely gave my dogs Droncit in
the fall, now I don't because touch wood the dogs haven't had fleas for a
long time.  Tape is not easily spotted on a fecal float, it's one of the
environment assessment choices.

When treating for tape you want to make sure you pick up after the dog,
then you can have a nasty shock!

Rose



Re: dog with a mission

2003-07-15 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Hunting in our back yard takes on a group effort.Ben, the 6 1/2 year 
old German Shorthair, is so fast and he frequently will get a mouse, or a 
mole, or a groundhog, or a bunny.   Both Winston before, and Nicky now, are 
always in on the chase, but are nowhere as quick and agile as Ben is, so 
Ben usually catches the prey.   That's when the Berners jump in for the 
'treasure.'A few years ago, Winston was sitting on the hill, with a 
mole's tail hanging out of his mouth and as I approached him to get it, he 
gulped it down!!!Yukno kisses from him for a day after that 
Last week, Ben caught a mouse and Nick grabbed it - there was mouse hanging 
out of both sides of his mouth.YUK..I finally got him to release 
his death grip on it and disposed of it.   No kisses again from Nicky. 
Ben caught two bunnies over the past several weeks - they come into the 
yard to dine on our beans and other plants.   Teamworkthat's what it is.

Joye Neff and Nick the treasure seeker (and Ben, the hunter)
Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
--On Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:15 AM -0400 Maria Crifasi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r

 Then of course there was the famous cow tongue in the park with Hannibal
incident...

Pat Long ( Luther)
with memories of the amazing Berner hunters
Berwyn PA


thinking of all these wonderful hunting dog stories, I believe that Daisy
never really hunted anything  -- unless you count human food.  On the
other hand, I remember many times witnessing Buddy's Lizard Launch method
of hunting.  He would simply sit there, not anticipating anything. A moth
would flutter near him. In a flash his VERY long tongue would whip out,
snag the hapless moth and whip back -- all this without him moving or
changing expression. Then, of course, there was that toad he swallowed in
one gulp. Ever palpate your puppy's tummy and FEEL the poor thing
fluttering around?
Maria Crifasi
Catoctin Mountains - home of every toad in Maryland




RE: dog with a mission

2003-07-14 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Emma,
All you can do is keep working on your recall commands and spit it which
is a term I use to get my dogs to leave their nylabones in the house when
they try to take them outside where the lawnmower chomps them up!

Mice are likely to have fleas hence a risk of tapeworm, birds are notorious
for lice so no you don't want her getting into those either. Chasing hens
will get her into huge trouble and I'd keep her on leash in the forest in
case she spots a deer.

A couple of my dogs have bagged themselves birds in the past, the best one
was Zulu bringing home a partridge, she has a soft mouth and could work in
the field:-) The other incident was a young crow and at that time we
weren't overly aware of West Nile, now I'd have sent it for analysis
because I suspect it was low flying if not actually dead in the yard when
three of my youngsters decided to play fly birdie fly with it! Two of
them had it by the wings and ran in tandem with the third nipping at the
tail feathers. Poor thing was a bit tatty when I retreived it.

I had two bushes by my front door that birds used to nest in and then the
parents would get hysterical everytime we moved so when the babies flew I
chopped down the bushes and now they nest in a big spruce far out of reach.

My dogs are particularly animated by the cheeky chipmunks and they don't
stand a hope in hell of catching them but it provides some entertainment
and gets them exercising as the little creatures zoom along the top of the
chain link.

Rose T.





dog with a mission

2003-07-13 Thread us
Once again I am looking for some advice with regards to Tatty who has just 
discovered her prey drive big time. Yesterday a mouse - no problems with 
that one though she seems to think she is a cat playing with it and making 
it squeak! Today it was a bird. which died in her mouth. Now we are 
happy to have her hunt mice, and would like to know is it possible to train 
her to know which things she can hunt and which she can't? Also showing my 
ignorance here is it safe for her to eat the things she catches (we did not 
let her either time)? There are a lot of birds nesting on the farm in the 
bushes and we don't want her to go after them particularly not before they 
are old enough to fly away. There are plenty of kites around so they are 
used to being prey but Tatty is a new predator!
any advice gladly taken, can't see how she has the energy in this heatwave
Emma and Tatty in France (40°)

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Re: dog with a mission

2003-07-13 Thread Annes4
In a message dated 07/13/2003 3:08:29 PM Central Daylight Time, 
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 Also showing my  ignorance here is it safe for her to eat the things she 
catches (we did not  let her either time)? 

I would suggest NOT to allow her to eat her catch as wild things carry 
parasites, both internal and external, that I would rather not have my dog get.  
As for training her that some wild things are OK (mice YES, birds NO) and 
others are not, that is asking a lot of discernment in a dog in the heat of the 
chase.  I would think it best to either train not to go after things at all, or 
just let her hunt at will.

Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDIA, 9 yrs. old, Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yrs. 
old, Cavalier)
Northern Illinois   [EMAIL PROTECTED], Corr. Sec. BMDCA