Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

2010-01-15 Thread Art Alexion
Yes.  That works for me as well, but not nearly as easy as configuring a 
CPU.


On 01/14/2010 Kalnitsky, Yury wrote:
   Ironically, it is easier to reconfigure a CPU for a VM than change
  the
  size of a virtual hard disk.

  - Add extent to the drive you want to expand using properties and
  then try using gparted boot ISO to do the resizing. Work for me every
  time!

  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

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Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

2010-01-14 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Not much to add except to take advantage of the VM and take a snapshot before 
you do the upgrade. You don't say where your database is stored but even so, 
you will be looking at a DB restore only if things go a bit wrong.

Good luck :)

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Sent: 14 January 2010 18:53
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Subject: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

Within the next week I plan to upgrade our current BPS 4.1 to BES 5.0.  
This is my first contact with BES as opposed to BPS.

I understand that this is an in-place upgrade, and I don't have to 
create a new BES install.

BES is currently installed on Win2003 server which is running as a 
virtual machine.  It has ~20 GB C: drive and the OS and BPS are taking 
up just a bit less than 8 GB.

I have links to documentation, but I am looking for tips, not 
instructions or steps.  Stuff that may be hidden or non-existent in the 
documentation that any of you found through experience.

I guess my first question is going to be whether 20 GB is big enough, 
probably ~50-60 users?  It would be easier to add storage by adding a D: 
drive rather than expanding the C: drive.  Can I move parts of BES to D:?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

2010-01-14 Thread steveaschett...@yahoo.com
You have your trade up key already I take it for BPS?  BES 4 - BES 5 is free, 
BPS - BES 5 requires buying a license





From: Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk
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Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 2:43:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

Not much to add except to take advantage of the VM and take a snapshot before 
you do the upgrade. You don't say where your database is stored but even so, 
you will be looking at a DB restore only if things go a bit wrong.

Good luck :)

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From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Art Alexion
Sent: 14 January 2010 18:53
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

Within the next week I plan to upgrade our current BPS 4.1 to BES 5.0.  
This is my first contact with BES as opposed to BPS.

I understand that this is an in-place upgrade, and I don't have to 
create a new BES install.

BES is currently installed on Win2003 server which is running as a 
virtual machine.  It has ~20 GB C: drive and the OS and BPS are taking 
up just a bit less than 8 GB.

I have links to documentation, but I am looking for tips, not 
instructions or steps.  Stuff that may be hidden or non-existent in the 
documentation that any of you found through experience.

I guess my first question is going to be whether 20 GB is big enough, 
probably ~50-60 users?  It would be easier to add storage by adding a D: 
drive rather than expanding the C: drive.  Can I move parts of BES to D:?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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MIS/Central Office Support
Resources for Human Development


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Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

2010-01-14 Thread Art Alexion
I bought a license for BPS - BES and a support contract.  The support 
contract is supposed to include a free BES 5 upgrade.  Can I go from BPS 
4 - BES 5, or do I need to go BPS 4 - BES 4 - BES 5.


On 01/14/2010 steveaschett...@yahoo.com wrote:
  You have your trade up key already I take it for BPS?  BES 4 - BES 5
  is free, BPS - BES 5 requires buying a license

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Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

2010-01-14 Thread Kalnitsky, Yury
 Ironically, it is easier to reconfigure a CPU for a VM than change the 
size of a virtual hard disk.

- Add extent to the drive you want to expand using properties and then try 
using gparted boot ISO to do the resizing. Work for me every time!

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php


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From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Art Alexion
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

Yes.  That's good news. Thanks.

Ironically, it is easier to reconfigure a CPU for a VM than change the 
size of a virtual hard disk.


On 01/14/2010 Pierre Duhamel wrote:
   I guess my first question is going to be whether 20 GB is big
  enough, probably ~50-60 users?

  It should be BUT that will depend on how far back you want to keep
  your log files.

   Can I move parts of BES to D:?

  Once D: is added, you can change the logfiles so that they output to
  D: instead of C: that alone will give C: plenty of breathing room.
  Not sure if you can change/move anything else tho (besides the
  logfiles)

  Hope this helps.

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MIS/Central Office Support
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Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

2010-01-14 Thread Darhl Thomason
If your server is 2008 or 2008 R2 it's even easier, expand drive in vSphere 
client than in Windows go to disk management, right click the drive and expand. 
 No rebooting or downtime required.

Going down is size is a different story...

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From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Kalnitsky, Yury
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:58 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

 Ironically, it is easier to reconfigure a CPU for a VM than change the 
size of a virtual hard disk.

- Add extent to the drive you want to expand using properties and then try 
using gparted boot ISO to do the resizing. Work for me every time!

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php


-Original Message-
From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Art Alexion
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:35 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] BPS - BES upgrade tips

Yes.  That's good news. Thanks.

Ironically, it is easier to reconfigure a CPU for a VM than change the 
size of a virtual hard disk.


On 01/14/2010 Pierre Duhamel wrote:
   I guess my first question is going to be whether 20 GB is big
  enough, probably ~50-60 users?

  It should be BUT that will depend on how far back you want to keep
  your log files.

   Can I move parts of BES to D:?

  Once D: is added, you can change the logfiles so that they output to
  D: instead of C: that alone will give C: plenty of breathing room.
  Not sure if you can change/move anything else tho (besides the
  logfiles)

  Hope this helps.

-- 
Art Alexion
MIS/Central Office Support
Resources for Human Development



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