Re: [Jbeta] j 1.2 (1.22) is now available
I echo Bob's remarks - adding WOW! Nice job. To be fair, I didn't expect to be as impressed with the local help as I am after trying it. Having Henry's JforCers is really nice for new users. It would be lovely to have an entry document oriented to this new environment, and now the foundations are in place. Other things that I already use on my iPad include Henry's reference card and Eugene's At Play With J, these I have in iBook where I also have J for C Programmers - comparing flipping back and forth really makes clear how convenient/important the hview help materials are. - joeyiPa... On May 31, 2012, at 11:07, bob therriault bobtherria...@mac.com wrote: Hey Eric, The jal/jw'' combo absolutely rocks!! It did take about 40 seconds to download the files while on my iPhone 3GS and the return button was highlighted during this time and the phone non responsive. It may be worth noting this delay in the instructions or even better use some sort of a progress bar. Seriously though, as someone who is still on the J learning curve, the ability to have the reference materials in the hview is huge. I think that you could create exponential growth in users if your final app loaded and opened one of the J reference texts and the reader could test as they read in the hview window. A procedural programmer reading and playing along with J for C programmers would not remain a loop coder for long! Off to play. I really hope that Apple gives you a quick thumbs up on this one. The world needs this app (and they don't even know it yet). Cheers, bob -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jbeta] j 1.2 (1.22) is now available
Oh! You misunderstood me -- I wasn't asking for more, just giving kudos for the great work you've already done! Thanks for the hint on extending things, already there are a great number of possibilities. There is one burning question ... what happened to release 1.21? NB. this is a tongue in cheek question :) Seriously, let us know what help anyone could offer for the next steps. - joey On 2012/05/31 12:06 , Eric Iverson wrote: I'm pretty much at the end of the road of what I am willing to do for this first release. Note that jlocalhelp_z_ could be redefined in your start.ijs to have additional links to other local html files (e.g. ref cated , at play, etc.). On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Joey K Tuttlej...@qued.com wrote: I echo Bob's remarks - adding WOW! Nice job. To be fair, I didn't expect to be as impressed with the local help as I am after trying it. Having Henry's JforCers is really nice for new users. It would be lovely to have an entry document oriented to this new environment, and now the foundations are in place. Other things that I already use on my iPad include Henry's reference card and Eugene's At Play With J, these I have in iBook where I also have J for C Programmers - comparing flipping back and forth really makes clear how convenient/important the hview help materials are. - joeyiPa... On May 31, 2012, at 11:07, bob therriaultbobtherria...@mac.com wrote: Hey Eric, The jal/jw'' combo absolutely rocks!! It did take about 40 seconds to download the files while on my iPhone 3GS and the return button was highlighted during this time and the phone non responsive. It may be worth noting this delay in the instructions or even better use some sort of a progress bar. Seriously though, as someone who is still on the J learning curve, the ability to have the reference materials in the hview is huge. I think that you could create exponential growth in users if your final app loaded and opened one of the J reference texts and the reader could test as they read in the hview window. A procedural programmer reading and playing along with J for C programmers would not remain a loop coder for long! Off to play. I really hope that Apple gives you a quick thumbs up on this one. The world needs this app (and they don't even know it yet). Cheers, bob -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jbeta] j 1.2 (1.22) is now available
1.21 was for my personal enjoyment (you don't want to know) On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Joey K Tuttle j...@qued.com wrote: Oh! You misunderstood me -- I wasn't asking for more, just giving kudos for the great work you've already done! Thanks for the hint on extending things, already there are a great number of possibilities. There is one burning question ... what happened to release 1.21? NB. this is a tongue in cheek question :) Seriously, let us know what help anyone could offer for the next steps. - joey On 2012/05/31 12:06 , Eric Iverson wrote: I'm pretty much at the end of the road of what I am willing to do for this first release. Note that jlocalhelp_z_ could be redefined in your start.ijs to have additional links to other local html files (e.g. ref cated , at play, etc.). On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Joey K Tuttlej...@qued.com wrote: I echo Bob's remarks - adding WOW! Nice job. To be fair, I didn't expect to be as impressed with the local help as I am after trying it. Having Henry's JforCers is really nice for new users. It would be lovely to have an entry document oriented to this new environment, and now the foundations are in place. Other things that I already use on my iPad include Henry's reference card and Eugene's At Play With J, these I have in iBook where I also have J for C Programmers - comparing flipping back and forth really makes clear how convenient/important the hview help materials are. - joeyiPa... On May 31, 2012, at 11:07, bob therriaultbobtherria...@mac.com wrote: Hey Eric, The jal/jw'' combo absolutely rocks!! It did take about 40 seconds to download the files while on my iPhone 3GS and the return button was highlighted during this time and the phone non responsive. It may be worth noting this delay in the instructions or even better use some sort of a progress bar. Seriously though, as someone who is still on the J learning curve, the ability to have the reference materials in the hview is huge. I think that you could create exponential growth in users if your final app loaded and opened one of the J reference texts and the reader could test as they read in the hview window. A procedural programmer reading and playing along with J for C programmers would not remain a loop coder for long! Off to play. I really hope that Apple gives you a quick thumbs up on this one. The world needs this app (and they don't even know it yet). Cheers, bob -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jbeta] j 1.2 (1.22) is now available
The iPhone version of J sets the value of UNAME to 'Darwin' this is usually the value set for mac systems. I realize the iOS and mac versions are very similar but there are significant differences the most important being no 2!:0 shell calls for iOS. How can a running j script distinguish iOS from other J hosts. I note a lot of addon code tests from various UNAME's 'Win', 'Linux', 'Darwin', 'Android' even 'iOS'. jdb On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:54 PM, bob therriault bobtherria...@mac.com wrote: I think with this hint of conspiracy (the missing 1.21 a la the Avro Arrow) this beta may be complete! :) Great work, Eric and I echo Joey's question of whether there is anything else we might do to help. Cheers, bob On 2012-05-31, at 12:33 PM, Eric Iverson wrote: 1.21 was for my personal enjoyment (you don't want to know) On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Joey K Tuttle j...@qued.com wrote: Oh! You misunderstood me -- I wasn't asking for more, just giving kudos for the great work you've already done! Thanks for the hint on extending things, already there are a great number of possibilities. There is one burning question ... what happened to release 1.21? NB. this is a tongue in cheek question :) Seriously, let us know what help anyone could offer for the next steps. - joey On 2012/05/31 12:06 , Eric Iverson wrote: I'm pretty much at the end of the road of what I am willing to do for this first release. Note that jlocalhelp_z_ could be redefined in your start.ijs to have additional links to other local html files (e.g. ref cated , at play, etc.). On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Joey K Tuttlej...@qued.com wrote: I echo Bob's remarks - adding WOW! Nice job. To be fair, I didn't expect to be as impressed with the local help as I am after trying it. Having Henry's JforCers is really nice for new users. It would be lovely to have an entry document oriented to this new environment, and now the foundations are in place. Other things that I already use on my iPad include Henry's reference card and Eugene's At Play With J, these I have in iBook where I also have J for C Programmers - comparing flipping back and forth really makes clear how convenient/important the hview help materials are. - joey iPa... On May 31, 2012, at 11:07, bob therriaultbobtherria...@mac.com wrote: Hey Eric, The jal/jw'' combo absolutely rocks!! It did take about 40 seconds to download the files while on my iPhone 3GS and the return button was highlighted during this time and the phone non responsive. It may be worth noting this delay in the instructions or even better use some sort of a progress bar. Seriously though, as someone who is still on the J learning curve, the ability to have the reference materials in the hview is huge. I think that you could create exponential growth in users if your final app loaded and opened one of the J reference texts and the reader could test as they read in the hview window. A procedural programmer reading and playing along with J for C programmers would not remain a loop coder for long! Off to play. I really hope that Apple gives you a quick thumbs up on this one. The world needs this app (and they don't even know it yet). Cheers, bob -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- John D. Baker bakerj...@gmail.com -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jbeta] j 1.2 (1.22) is now available
I find it disorienting that when the keyboard is closed and I scroll up the log to the text of Hhelp, and then tap the screen on one of the Hhelp items, the screen scrolls back down to the input edit field without doing anything. I suppose I wil learn over time not to tap in the log when I should be pressing. --- (B=) -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jbeta] j 1.2 (1.22) is now available
Hey Brian, I was thinking 'help' might be ported to html and the button press would cause it to be displayed in the hview . Possibly next version, since I think Eric wants to get his foot in the door of the iTunes store. Cheers, bob On 2012-05-31, at 1:17 PM, Brian Schott wrote: I find it disorienting that when the keyboard is closed and I scroll up the log to the text of Hhelp, and then tap the screen on one of the Hhelp items, the screen scrolls back down to the input edit field without doing anything. I suppose I wil learn over time not to tap in the log when I should be pressing. --- (B=) -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
