Re: [Bibdesk-users] Imports

[Martin Gillis]

Hi Christiaan,

What I am referring to is the following:

Say I create a "Web group" to search for a paper (i.e., arXiv or DOI) and when 
I get a result, I use the import feature. This creates a smart group called 
"Last Import" with the article I just imported. Now if I use the same "Web 
group" to search and import another article, the "Last Import" is updated with 
the recently imported article. I was looking for a way if "Last Import" would 
keep a list of articles during my searches.

There have been a couple of responses in the thread -- thanks for the 
suggestions, very helpful :)

I have to say, I have used many reference management software over the years, 
and by far, I find BibDesk the most flexible, and versatile application. It is 
a great project with a great community!

-Matin



On Sep 11, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:

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Oh, I may have misunderstood (because you were talking about “session”). You 
are talking about grouping within a single database?

I don’t think it is very useful (or worth it) to have an import group for all 
imported items in a session. It is probably more useful to use a smart group 
based on ~Date-Added, for instance containing all items added in the last day.

Christiaan

On 11 Sep 2023, at 18:33, Nathan 
mailto:nathan.artist@gmail.com>> wrote:

Martin: The way I would achieve your goal (although I may be describing the 
obvious) is:

Sort the main publication table by date-added.
Select recently added publications that I want to review.
Drag the selected publications to an empty static group.
Sort the publication table in the static group by any desired field and review 
the publications.

If it is important to me to restrict the groups table to show only data about a 
selection of publications (and not about all publications in my main database), 
then I open a separate BibDesk database with the desired groups already 
configured but empty of publications, and I drag the selected publications to 
the separate database temporarily where I can visually analyze the groups 
table. (But I do not drag publications back and forth between databases, 
because this changes the date-added field, which I want to keep intact; I treat 
the separate database as a temporary "read-only" view that is destroyed after 
use.)

Nathan

On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On 11 Sep 2023, at 16:08, Martin Gillis 
mailto:mr790...@dal.ca>> wrote:

Hi Folks,

Wondering if there is a way to have the "Last Import" group maintain a list of 
imports for the current open session for BibDesk. The general idea is that I 
would like to imports article and the review them as a list. Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,

-Martin

No, this only contains items for the database where it belongs to. We do not 
maintain a database containing all items for all open documents.

Christiaan

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Imports

[Christiaan Hofman]

Also, a bit like Nathan proposed, you can add an empty static group, and drag 
the items from the Last Import group to it whenever you import new items. (You 
can simply drag the Last Import group to the static group.)

I will also add a smart group condition check for a date (added) in the current 
session.

Christiaan

> On 11 Sep 2023, at 23:21, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
> 
> Oh, I may have misunderstood (because you were talking about “session”). You 
> are talking about grouping within a single database?
> 
> I don’t think it is very useful (or worth it) to have an import group for all 
> imported items in a session. It is probably more useful to use a smart group 
> based on ~Date-Added, for instance containing all items added in the last day.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2023, at 18:33, Nathan > > wrote:
>> 
>> Martin: The way I would achieve your goal (although I may be describing the 
>> obvious) is:
>> 
>> Sort the main publication table by date-added.
>> Select recently added publications that I want to review.
>> Drag the selected publications to an empty static group.
>> Sort the publication table in the static group by any desired field and 
>> review the publications.
>> 
>> If it is important to me to restrict the groups table to show only data 
>> about a selection of publications (and not about all publications in my main 
>> database), then I open a separate BibDesk database with the desired groups 
>> already configured but empty of publications, and I drag the selected 
>> publications to the separate database temporarily where I can visually 
>> analyze the groups table. (But I do not drag publications back and forth 
>> between databases, because this changes the date-added field, which I want 
>> to keep intact; I treat the separate database as a temporary "read-only" 
>> view that is destroyed after use.)
>> 
>> Nathan
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
 On 11 Sep 2023, at 16:08, Martin Gillis >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 Wondering if there is a way to have the "Last Import" group maintain a 
 list of imports for the current open session for BibDesk. The general idea 
 is that I would like to imports article and the review them as a list. Is 
 this possible?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 -Martin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, this only contains items for the database where it belongs to. We do 
>>> not maintain a database containing all items for all open documents.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Imports

[Christiaan Hofman]

Oh, I may have misunderstood (because you were talking about “session”). You 
are talking about grouping within a single database?

I don’t think it is very useful (or worth it) to have an import group for all 
imported items in a session. It is probably more useful to use a smart group 
based on ~Date-Added, for instance containing all items added in the last day.

Christiaan

> On 11 Sep 2023, at 18:33, Nathan  wrote:
> 
> Martin: The way I would achieve your goal (although I may be describing the 
> obvious) is:
> 
> Sort the main publication table by date-added.
> Select recently added publications that I want to review.
> Drag the selected publications to an empty static group.
> Sort the publication table in the static group by any desired field and 
> review the publications.
> 
> If it is important to me to restrict the groups table to show only data about 
> a selection of publications (and not about all publications in my main 
> database), then I open a separate BibDesk database with the desired groups 
> already configured but empty of publications, and I drag the selected 
> publications to the separate database temporarily where I can visually 
> analyze the groups table. (But I do not drag publications back and forth 
> between databases, because this changes the date-added field, which I want to 
> keep intact; I treat the separate database as a temporary "read-only" view 
> that is destroyed after use.)
> 
> Nathan
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11 Sep 2023, at 16:08, Martin Gillis >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> 
>>> Wondering if there is a way to have the "Last Import" group maintain a list 
>>> of imports for the current open session for BibDesk. The general idea is 
>>> that I would like to imports article and the review them as a list. Is this 
>>> possible?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> -Martin
>> 
>> 
>> No, this only contains items for the database where it belongs to. We do not 
>> maintain a database containing all items for all open documents.
>> 
>> Christiaan

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Imports

[Nathan]

Martin: The way I would achieve your goal (although I may be describing the 
obvious) is:

Sort the main publication table by date-added.
Select recently added publications that I want to review.
Drag the selected publications to an empty static group.
Sort the publication table in the static group by any desired field and review 
the publications.

If it is important to me to restrict the groups table to show only data about a 
selection of publications (and not about all publications in my main database), 
then I open a separate BibDesk database with the desired groups already 
configured but empty of publications, and I drag the selected publications to 
the separate database temporarily where I can visually analyze the groups 
table. (But I do not drag publications back and forth between databases, 
because this changes the date-added field, which I want to keep intact; I treat 
the separate database as a temporary "read-only" view that is destroyed after 
use.)

Nathan

> On Sep 11, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2023, at 16:08, Martin Gillis > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> Wondering if there is a way to have the "Last Import" group maintain a list 
>> of imports for the current open session for BibDesk. The general idea is 
>> that I would like to imports article and the review them as a list. Is this 
>> possible?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> -Martin
> 
> 
> No, this only contains items for the database where it belongs to. We do not 
> maintain a database containing all items for all open documents.
> 
> Christiaan

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Imports

[Christiaan Hofman]

> On 11 Sep 2023, at 16:08, Martin Gillis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Wondering if there is a way to have the "Last Import" group maintain a list 
> of imports for the current open session for BibDesk. The general idea is that 
> I would like to imports article and the review them as a list. Is this 
> possible?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -Martin


No, this only contains items for the database where it belongs to. We do not 
maintain a database containing all items for all open documents.

Christiaan

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