Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin Cooperative Proof-of-Stake whitpaper

2014-05-21 Thread Odinn Cyberguerrilla
 I completed a whitepaper for Bitcoin a proof-of-stake version which uses a
 single nomadic verifiable mint agent and distributed replication of a
 single blockchain by compensated full nodes to achieve 6-hop, sub-second
 transaction acknowledgement times. Plus it pays dividends to holders
 instead of wasting it on miners. Subsidized transaction fees are thus
 lower.


I look at this and agree of course that the nodes are decreasing, see,
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/   But when I see stuff in the white paper
like misbehaving nodes in the context of an audit agent, a single
non-forking blockchain, the notion of Misbehaving nodes that would be
banned from the network so as to motivat(e) honest behavior, ~ really,
all of this does sound as though a sort of morality is being formulated
rather than a mathematical solution.

This is not to say that the white paper hasn't addressed a problem that
needs to be addressed, namely... the problem of the nodes disappearing,
and a few other things.  But to take that and then layer onto that the
issues associated with proof of stake... There does seem to be a simpler
way to address this and I think first without suggesting the complex issue
of some kind of thing that would involve dividends for those in a
proof-of-stake system, consensus achieved by stake-weighted voting, and so
forth, one would be better off removing all references to voting and
stake, and determining ways simply to incentivize more substantively those
who actually run a full node.  Additionally I am hesitant to characterize
behavior as has been described in the white paper, as it would seem that
(in such a system) there would be an inclination or a tendency to exclude
certain patterns or groups of participants rather than determine ways in
which all participants or potential peers can serve the network.




 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C4m-MFnxw0JjDorzrKs_IRQRqD9ila79o0IDt6KsbcE


 Because the code is not yet written, this idea is half-baked so to speak.
 Comments appreciated on my project thread, which will be a development
 diary. I plan a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain in early 2016, after a
 year of public system testing, and conditioned on wide approval.

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584719.msg6397403#msg6397403

 -Steve

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[Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin Cooperative Proof-of-Stake whitpaper

2014-05-20 Thread Stephen Reed
I completed a whitepaper for Bitcoin a proof-of-stake version which uses a 
single nomadic verifiable mint agent and distributed replication of a single 
blockchain by compensated full nodes to achieve 6-hop, sub-second transaction 
acknowledgement times. Plus it pays dividends to holders instead of wasting it 
on miners. Subsidized transaction fees are thus lower.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C4m-MFnxw0JjDorzrKs_IRQRqD9ila79o0IDt6KsbcE


Because the code is not yet written, this idea is half-baked so to speak. 
Comments appreciated on my project thread, which will be a development diary. I 
plan a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain in early 2016, after a year of 
public system testing, and conditioned on wide approval.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584719.msg6397403#msg6397403

-Steve

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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin Cooperative Proof-of-Stake whitpaper

2014-05-20 Thread Nick Simpson
Referring to the subsidy for miners as wasting it on miners isn't going to 
garner you much favor. 


On May 20, 2014 11:12:53 AM CDT, Stephen Reed stephenr...@yahoo.com wrote:
I completed a whitepaper for Bitcoin a proof-of-stake version which
uses a single nomadic verifiable mint agent and distributed replication
of a single blockchain by compensated full nodes to achieve 6-hop,
sub-second transaction acknowledgement times. Plus it pays dividends to
holders instead of wasting it on miners. Subsidized transaction fees
are thus lower.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C4m-MFnxw0JjDorzrKs_IRQRqD9ila79o0IDt6KsbcE


Because the code is not yet written, this idea is half-baked so to
speak. Comments appreciated on my project thread, which will be a
development diary. I plan a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain in
early 2016, after a year of public system testing, and conditioned on
wide approval.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584719.msg6397403#msg6397403

-Steve

Stephen L. Reed 
Austin, Texas, USA 
512.791.7860



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