Re: [Blackbelly] Help.

2008-06-23 Thread Carol J. Elkins

Hi Oneta,

All messages posted to the Blackbelly listserv have been archived, 
all the way back to 2000 when the list was first created. However, 
the resources used to archive the posts are less than reliable. 
Therefore, you may need to check two different sources:


This list would be the first place to look. Occasionally it stops 
archiving, but eventually it seems to recover all on its own:

http://www.mail-archive.com/blackbelly%40lists.blackbellysheep.info/http://www.mail-archive.com/blackbelly%40lists.blackbellysheep.info/

This archive (provided by the service that runs the Blackbelly 
Listserv) uses really poor archiving technology and its search 
results are often not accurate. You will need your Blackbelly 
Listserv email address and password to log on:
http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/private.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info/http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/private.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info 



Carol Elkins
List Owner


At 08:03 PM 6/22/2008, you wrote:
I went to the list trying to find some information I had read 
earlier and what I have saved as the list is from 2005.  Does anyone 
have the link for the new stuff, like in the last month or so.


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Re: [Blackbelly] Wormer question

2008-06-23 Thread Mark Fleming
My vet has had me use cydectin on and off for years.  We may worm once to
twice a year and we do the fecal counts each month.  We did have an older
ewe Last year that started coughing and we bought some cydectin for sheep
and goats.  We just about lost her.  Our vet indicated he found out that the
sheep and goat cydectin did not work on his sheep and goats.  We just about
lost her and did switch back to the cattle brand of cydectin.  We use 1cc
for every 25 lbs.
Mark Fleming

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Today's Topics:

   1. down one and another ill (Tracy Wessel)
   2. Re: down one and another ill (Cecil Bearden)
   3. Re: down one and another ill (Cecil Bearden)
   4. I need help on a wormer question! (o johnson)
   5. Re: I need help on a wormer question! (Onalee Israel)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:37:01 -0700
From: Tracy Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Blackbelly] down one and another ill
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I posted a few weeks ago about a ewe that had been ill. She'd been  
down while pregnant and had a swollen and cloudy eye. One dose of  
LA200 and she was right as rain. She lambed out fine and all seemed  
well for about 4 weeks. I noticed her lying down again and three days  
later she was dead despite a dose of LA 200. I wondered if she'd  
retained a placenta or had a dead lamb in her, but no discharge or  
smell.

In any case I now have a lamb with a swollen eye (have treated) not  
hers, but the lamb of a ewe that came from the same  place as her.  
I'm wondering... despite really no signs, is this sounding like  
chlamydia? All my other sheep are healthy and robust. The ewe that  
died was really wobbly the last day. Appeared to have some  
neurological disfunction.

I do have a foal in hospital with joint ill. Brings about suspect  
common bacteria. Perhaps if I knew which was affecting the sheep, we  
could save the foal.

Tracy


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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:36:39 -0500
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If I remember, Joint Ill is a staph infection.  If it is int he 
hospital, then the vet should be giving it an antibiotic cocktail...  
The lamb.. I would give your LA 200 and also 3cc combiotic daily.  Also 
1cc of Baytril if you can get it...  You will also have to give it some 
probios or a similar supplement to keep the gut working.  Since we do 
not know what the real problem is, we have to use everything to save the 
animal.  This sounds like Chlamydia. 

Cecil in OKla


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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:57:51 -0500
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I did a google search to confirm my original suspicions.  It appears 
that your problems are indeed related.  The Merck Manual lists joint ill 
also in sheep and caused by Erysipelis (sp.)  Again, theis sounds very 
much like a staph infection.  I still would use Baytril and 
Pennicillin.  Chlamydia is supposed to be killed with tetracycline, but 
if it is campylobacter then you need to use all three.  Campylobacter 
has many diferent strains. 

A joint type infection is usually staph very similar to Arthritis.  All 
of these problems can come from an untreated umbilical cord.  The 
bacterin gets in the soil in the pens.  One method states to burn a bale 
of hay on the area to kill the bacterin. 

Cecil in OKla


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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:57:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Blackbelly] I need help on a wormer question!
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I have a yearling ram that has been sick and have been to the vet several
times and he