Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-17 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 17-02-2014 00:44, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
 Em 16-02-2014 22:14, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu:

 What is the svn address for LFS-7.5-rc1? I tried some combinations, but
 could only get


 !ENTITY version SVN-20140216
 !ENTITY releasedate February 16, 2015
 !ENTITY copyrightdate   1999-2014!-- jhalfs needs a literal dash,
 not ndash; --
 !ENTITY milestone   7.5


 Never mind. I've got it right from the commit. But it would be a good
 idea to publish the address for the xml, for those wanting to test,
 wouldn't it? Either in messages for dev or in the site? Or I missed it?
 
 The xml is in svn.  Do you have the full repo or just the trunk?  The 
 location is LFS/tags/7.5-rc1 instead of the normal LFS/trunk/BOOK.
 
-- Bruce


Thanks. I thought you were going to create BLFS 7.5-rc1?


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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
 Em 17-02-2014 00:44, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:

 The xml is in svn.  Do you have the full repo or just the trunk?  The
 location is LFS/tags/7.5-rc1 instead of the normal LFS/trunk/BOOK.

 Thanks. I thought you were going to create BLFS 7.5-rc1?

I did say that, but is it going to be useful?   My current view is that 
it is not.

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-17 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 17-02-2014 16:07, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
 Em 17-02-2014 00:44, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 
 The xml is in svn.  Do you have the full repo or just the trunk?  The
 location is LFS/tags/7.5-rc1 instead of the normal LFS/trunk/BOOK.
 
 Thanks. I thought you were going to create BLFS 7.5-rc1?
 
 I did say that, but is it going to be useful?   My current view is that 
 it is not.

OK.


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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 05:19:44PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
  Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.
 
 Well I've had some unplanned events come up (non-LFS) and I will now 
 plan on doing -rc1 on Sunday.  The rest of this evening will be jsut 
 checking things over.
 
 Updating BLFS is OK for now, but please keep an eye on the email.  I'll 
 do LFS first and announce that and then start working of BLFS.
 
 One thing which I suppose ought to change, but which we haven't had
before: in current gstreamer (1.2 series) and its plugins we have
--with-package-origin=http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/;

 I guess that needs to become 7.5 for the release, and therefore it
probably ought to change for the rc ?  Or do we just tell people
that svn is always better ? :)

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.  (Armin
 I can do LFS-systemd version too if you agree).

 Please have any planned package updates completed by 2000 GMT tomorrow
 or let me know if you need more time.

 What will happen is that I'll create a version in the svn tag directory
 for each book and make minor changes to reflect the -rc1 status.   After
 commit, I'll install the appropriate html, pdf, patches, etc on the web
 site and make an announcement.

OK, LFS-7.5-rc1 has been released.  In checking what we did in 
September, we never released an -rc for BLFS.  Perhaps that way is better.

The only thing left for LFS is to upload the build report and test logs. 
  I'm in the middle of one last build for that.  I think I've built the 
whole LFS system at least six times in the last couple of days.

We already have one suggestion from Armin that I will probably make.  It 
only affects testing for automake.

As soon as the current run is done, I plan to start building in BLFS and 
tagging the pages accordingly.

One thought I have about BLFS is to have a modified freeze on 
packages.  If the package is marked lfs75, then don't update, but if 
it's still at lfs74, then there shouldn't be any problems with updating.

Does that sound reasonable?

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-16 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 16-02-2014 21:31, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.  (Armin
 I can do LFS-systemd version too if you agree).

 Please have any planned package updates completed by 2000 GMT tomorrow
 or let me know if you need more time.

 What will happen is that I'll create a version in the svn tag directory
 for each book and make minor changes to reflect the -rc1 status.   After
 commit, I'll install the appropriate html, pdf, patches, etc on the web
 site and make an announcement.
 
 OK, LFS-7.5-rc1 has been released.  In checking what we did in 
 September, we never released an -rc for BLFS.  Perhaps that way is better.
 
 The only thing left for LFS is to upload the build report and test logs. 
   I'm in the middle of one last build for that.  I think I've built the 
 whole LFS system at least six times in the last couple of days.
 
 We already have one suggestion from Armin that I will probably make.  It 
 only affects testing for automake.
 
 As soon as the current run is done, I plan to start building in BLFS and 
 tagging the pages accordingly.
 
 One thought I have about BLFS is to have a modified freeze on 
 packages.  If the package is marked lfs75, then don't update, but if 
 it's still at lfs74, then there shouldn't be any problems with updating.
 
 Does that sound reasonable?

I do not think so. This would make each editor building a different rc1.

What is the svn address for LFS-7.5-rc1? I tried some combinations, but
could only get


!ENTITY version SVN-20140216
!ENTITY releasedate February 16, 2015
!ENTITY copyrightdate   1999-2014!-- jhalfs needs a literal dash,
not ndash; --
!ENTITY milestone   7.5



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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-16 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 16-02-2014 22:14, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu:

 What is the svn address for LFS-7.5-rc1? I tried some combinations, but
 could only get
 
 
 !ENTITY version SVN-20140216
 !ENTITY releasedate February 16, 2015
 !ENTITY copyrightdate   1999-2014!-- jhalfs needs a literal dash,
 not ndash; --
 !ENTITY milestone   7.5


Never mind. I've got it right from the commit. But it would be a good
idea to publish the address for the xml, for those wanting to test,
wouldn't it? Either in messages for dev or in the site? Or I missed it?


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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 05:19:44PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.

 Well I've had some unplanned events come up (non-LFS) and I will now
 plan on doing -rc1 on Sunday.  The rest of this evening will be jsut
 checking things over.

 Updating BLFS is OK for now, but please keep an eye on the email.  I'll
 do LFS first and announce that and then start working of BLFS.

   One thing which I suppose ought to change, but which we haven't had
 before: in current gstreamer (1.2 series) and its plugins we have
 --with-package-origin=http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/;

   I guess that needs to become 7.5 for the release, and therefore it
 probably ought to change for the rc ?  Or do we just tell people
 that svn is always better ? :)

Let's leave it at svn.  We don't have separate entries for blfs packages 
by release.  At one time we did, but that dates back to 2008.  We do 
have the packages but they would be at locations like 
http://anduin/sources/BLFS/conglomeration/gstreamer/

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
 Em 16-02-2014 22:14, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu:

 What is the svn address for LFS-7.5-rc1? I tried some combinations, but
 could only get


 !ENTITY version SVN-20140216
 !ENTITY releasedate February 16, 2015
 !ENTITY copyrightdate   1999-2014!-- jhalfs needs a literal dash,
 not ndash; --
 !ENTITY milestone   7.5


 Never mind. I've got it right from the commit. But it would be a good
 idea to publish the address for the xml, for those wanting to test,
 wouldn't it? Either in messages for dev or in the site? Or I missed it?

The xml is in svn.  Do you have the full repo or just the trunk?  The 
location is LFS/tags/7.5-rc1 instead of the normal LFS/trunk/BOOK.

   -- Bruce





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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 14-02-2014 18:07, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.  (Armin 
 I can do LFS-systemd version too if you agree).
 
 Please have any planned package updates completed by 2000 GMT tomorrow 
 or let me know if you need more time.
 
 What will happen is that I'll create a version in the svn tag directory 
 for each book and make minor changes to reflect the -rc1 status.   After 
 commit, I'll install the appropriate html, pdf, patches, etc on the web 
 site and make an announcement.
 
 I hope to be done about 2300 GMT tomorrow, but it may extend to a few 
 hours later.
 
 After the announcement, devs can still update the repository as normal, 
 but I request that no new packages be updated without discussing it on 
 the appropriate -dev site first.  The target for a -stable release is 
 March 1st.  Between Feb 15 and March 1 I predict that LFS will have 
 about 6 new package releases and BLFS will have 40-60.  We should just 
 create tickets for them until -stable is released.
 
 For BLFS, I'd like to see updates to the packages to say LFS 7.5 
 checked.  I'll start building/checking right after the -rc1.  If any 
 non-editors want to participate, just send a message to blfs-dev noting 
 what packages you've checked against the lfs-7.5-rc1 build.
 
 Changes (without updating package versions) to clarify or update 
 instructions are OK any time prior to -stable.
 
 Please let me know if more clarification is needed.
 
-- Bruce
 

For me it is OK. I plan to update gnutls and include some dependencies
in OJDK (latter is no problem for package freeze).

However, each time Firefox is updated, there is a Thunderbird and a
Seamonkey, normally, few days after.

As no package depends on them, apparently, I would like to open these
two exceptions, and update them, if they appear in a couple of days.

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
 Em 14-02-2014 18:07, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.

 For me it is OK. I plan to update gnutls and include some dependencies
 in OJDK (latter is no problem for package freeze).

 However, each time Firefox is updated, there is a Thunderbird and a
 Seamonkey, normally, few days after.

 As no package depends on them, apparently, I would like to open these
 two exceptions, and update them, if they appear in a couple of days.

OK, but hold off until you have a 7.5-rc1 LFS to test against.  I've 
still got a couple of things to update before I tag -rc1.

   -- Bruce




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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:07:49PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.  (Armin 
 I can do LFS-systemd version too if you agree).
 
 Please have any planned package updates completed by 2000 GMT tomorrow 
 or let me know if you need more time.
 
 What will happen is that I'll create a version in the svn tag directory 
 for each book and make minor changes to reflect the -rc1 status.   After 
 commit, I'll install the appropriate html, pdf, patches, etc on the web 
 site and make an announcement.
 
 I hope to be done about 2300 GMT tomorrow, but it may extend to a few 
 hours later.
 

 I'm running late on adding the asy instructions to TeX Live (from
source) : I was ill yesterday before I could test the build, and now
I realise that I still managed to use an older binary installer -
the newer one got downloaded as \(1\) by firefox and I forgot to
delete the old one and fix that up before I started.

 Just started as fresh run, I'll start the instruction changes soon
(asy needs a patch I uploaded earlier this week, and some fun and
games to configure it with shared libtirpc).  So, in one sense, this
won't break the freeze even if I haven't completed by 2000.

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 15-02-2014 12:00, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
 Em 14-02-2014 18:07, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.
 
 For me it is OK. I plan to update gnutls and include some dependencies
 in OJDK (latter is no problem for package freeze).

 However, each time Firefox is updated, there is a Thunderbird and a
 Seamonkey, normally, few days after.

 As no package depends on them, apparently, I would like to open these
 two exceptions, and update them, if they appear in a couple of days.
 
 OK, but hold off until you have a 7.5-rc1 LFS to test against.  I've 
 still got a couple of things to update before I tag -rc1.
 

From the new tickets, I am ready to update cups-filters dbus-glib
iso-codes, but not serf (having problems).

Should I do them now? (Just statistics).


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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 15-02-2014 14:56, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu:
 Em 15-02-2014 12:00, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
 Em 14-02-2014 18:07, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.

 For me it is OK. I plan to update gnutls and include some dependencies
 in OJDK (latter is no problem for package freeze).

 However, each time Firefox is updated, there is a Thunderbird and a
 Seamonkey, normally, few days after.

 As no package depends on them, apparently, I would like to open these
 two exceptions, and update them, if they appear in a couple of days.

 OK, but hold off until you have a 7.5-rc1 LFS to test against.  I've 
 still got a couple of things to update before I tag -rc1.

 
From the new tickets, I am ready to update cups-filters dbus-glib
 iso-codes, but not serf (having problems).
 
 Should I do them now? (Just statistics).


Done at revision 12711.


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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Gregory H. Nietsky

On 15/02/2014 19:50, Ken Moffat wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:07:49PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.  (Armin
 I can do LFS-systemd version too if you agree).

 Please have any planned package updates completed by 2000 GMT tomorrow
 or let me know if you need more time.

 What will happen is that I'll create a version in the svn tag directory
 for each book and make minor changes to reflect the -rc1 status.   After
 commit, I'll install the appropriate html, pdf, patches, etc on the web
 site and make an announcement.

 I hope to be done about 2300 GMT tomorrow, but it may extend to a few
 hours later.

   I'm running late on adding the asy instructions to TeX Live (from
 source) : I was ill yesterday before I could test the build, and now
 I realise that I still managed to use an older binary installer -
 the newer one got downloaded as \(1\) by firefox and I forgot to
 delete the old one and fix that up before I started.

   Just started as fresh run, I'll start the instruction changes soon
 (asy needs a patch I uploaded earlier this week, and some fun and
 games to configure it with shared libtirpc).  So, in one sense, this
 won't break the freeze even if I haven't completed by 2000.

 ĸen
Hi likewise been busy i linked asy bits against libtirpc and portablexdr

http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/portablexdr/

i also use it to build the rpc bits of openl2tpd.

Greg

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 05:50:14PM +, Ken Moffat wrote:
 
  I'm running late on adding the asy instructions to TeX Live (from
 source) : I was ill yesterday before I could test the build, and now
 I realise that I still managed to use an older binary installer -
 the newer one got downloaded as \(1\) by firefox and I forgot to
 delete the old one and fix that up before I started.
 
  Just started as fresh run, I'll start the instruction changes soon
 (asy needs a patch I uploaded earlier this week, and some fun and
 games to configure it with shared libtirpc).  So, in one sense, this
 won't break the freeze even if I haven't completed by 2000.
 
 Done, r12712

 I'm sure my wording could do with a bit of pruning here and there,
but I've sent the ticket back to blfs-book (hopefully, Greg will be
able to join us, and sort out xindy) so it's open season on my
verbiage.

 Please note that I have deliberately broken deps, and now the build
instructions, into multiple paragraphs for ease of reading.

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 09:27:11PM +0200, Gregory H. Nietsky wrote:
 
 Hi likewise been busy i linked asy bits against libtirpc and portablexdr
 
 http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/portablexdr/
 
 i also use it to build the rpc bits of openl2tpd.
 
 Greg
 
 I found some past links which led me to believe the missing xdr_
symbols were all related to static linking to old libtirpc from an
old glibc.  Passing LIBS=-ltirpc  when configuring aymptote (the
space in that string is important) caused an interesting afternoon
dealing with the consequential configury breakage.

 I've now built it three times like this (and also with most of
xindy), so I'm fairly sure what I've committed works.  Just like
the old days in cross-lfs, having to use config.cache :)

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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Gregory H. Nietsky

On 15/02/2014 21:58, Ken Moffat wrote:
   I found some past links which led me to believe the missing xdr_
 symbols were all related to static linking to old libtirpc from an
 old glibc.  Passing LIBS=-ltirpc  when configuring aymptote (the
 space in that string is important) caused an interesting afternoon
 dealing with the consequential configury breakage.

   I've now built it three times like this (and also with most of
 xindy), so I'm fairly sure what I've committed works.  Just like
 the old days in cross-lfs, having to use config.cache:)

 ĸen
Im working on this ATM and will continue after some shut eye (00:30)
ive bumped libtirpc to 0.24 [0.25-rc1 is avail FYI] it has extended XDR
support indeed and portablexdr is no longer needed i can confirm further
the space is indeed critical.

messing with config.cache is sure the swiss army knife [or rather sledge 
hammer] to
get something built esp when cross compiling to a non native platform.

looking at your patch i took the easy way out and added a include :D.
although your patch removes portability it seems more efficient.

index 5137307..d43dccd 100644
--- a/utils/asymptote/interact.cc
+++ b/utils/asymptote/interact.cc
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
  #include unistd.h
  #include csignal
  #include cstdio
+#include cstring

  #include interact.h
  #include runhistory.h
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Re: [blfs-dev] Plan for -7.5

2014-02-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Tomorrow I plan on creating and releasing -rc1 for LFS and BLFS.

Well I've had some unplanned events come up (non-LFS) and I will now 
plan on doing -rc1 on Sunday.  The rest of this evening will be jsut 
checking things over.

Updating BLFS is OK for now, but please keep an eye on the email.  I'll 
do LFS first and announce that and then start working of BLFS.

   -- Bruce

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