Re: [blfs-dev] Network-manager-applet and libnma split as well as package placement

2020-04-01 Thread Ken Moffat via blfs-dev
On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 08:30:30AM +0800, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev
wrote:
> On 2020-04-01 18:48 -0500, Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev wrote:
> > Good evening,
> > 
> > While looking at #13243 and updating gnome-control-center, I
> > noticed that network-manager-applet has split it's library into
> > "libnma", which is what programs such as gnome-control-center
> > itself will link to.
> > 
> > Network-manager-applet can be used in XFCE or LXDE to setup the
> > network through a graphical session - which is especially useful
> > on laptops. I recall Ken using it at one point as well.
> > 
Yeah, still using it with xfce on my laptop - but I don't plan to
update that system, except for vulnerabilities, until our next
release, and anyway the positioning within the book doesn't affect
me.

> > I'd like to propose moving network-manager-applet to "Network
> > Programs" and adding libnma to "Networking Libraries".
> 
> I agree.  polkit-gnome and notification-daemon should also be
> moved out.
> 
> > On that note, it seems that Mutter will require Graphene (as Xi
> > noted in #13242 - thanks for telling me that it's M/N/NI). I'd
> > like to propose adding that to "X Libraries".
> > 
> > gnome-settings-daemon's tests also needed 'umockdev' to complete
> > the power section. Should we decide to add that, I'd like to
> > propose it going into General Libraries. It would also be used
> > in libgusb and upower for tests - however I'd say adding it is
> > optional since we can mark the test suite as not functional
> > unless it's installed (it also seems to use Mutter, which would
> > cause a circular dependency - I'm not sure how to handle that).
> 
> Just put mutter into "optional (required for tests)".  -- Xi
> Ruoyao  School of Aerospace Science and
> Technology, Xidian University
> 

You guys are the experts on this, I've no objection to whatever you
propose for these packages.

ĸen
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Re: [blfs-dev] Network-manager-applet and libnma split as well as package placement

2020-04-01 Thread Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev
On 2020-04-01 18:48 -0500, Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev wrote:
> Good evening,
> 
> While looking at #13243 and updating gnome-control-center, I noticed 
> that network-manager-applet has split it's library into "libnma", which 
> is what programs such as gnome-control-center itself will link to.
> 
> Network-manager-applet can be used in XFCE or LXDE to setup the network 
> through a graphical session - which is especially useful on laptops. I 
> recall Ken using it at one point as well.
> 
> I'd like to propose moving network-manager-applet to "Network Programs" 
> and adding libnma to "Networking Libraries".

I agree.  polkit-gnome and notification-daemon should also be moved out.

> On that note, it seems that Mutter will require Graphene (as Xi noted in 
> #13242 - thanks for telling me that it's M/N/NI). I'd like to propose 
> adding that to "X Libraries".
> 
> gnome-settings-daemon's tests also needed 'umockdev' to complete the 
> power section. Should we decide to add that, I'd like to propose it 
> going into General Libraries. It would also be used in libgusb and 
> upower for tests - however I'd say adding it is optional since we can 
> mark the test suite as not functional unless it's installed (it also 
> seems to use Mutter, which would cause a circular dependency - I'm not 
> sure how to handle that).

Just put mutter into "optional (required for tests)".
-- 
Xi Ruoyao 
School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University

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[blfs-dev] Network-manager-applet and libnma split as well as package placement

2020-04-01 Thread Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev

Good evening,

While looking at #13243 and updating gnome-control-center, I noticed 
that network-manager-applet has split it's library into "libnma", which 
is what programs such as gnome-control-center itself will link to.


Network-manager-applet can be used in XFCE or LXDE to setup the network 
through a graphical session - which is especially useful on laptops. I 
recall Ken using it at one point as well.


I'd like to propose moving network-manager-applet to "Network Programs" 
and adding libnma to "Networking Libraries".


On that note, it seems that Mutter will require Graphene (as Xi noted in 
#13242 - thanks for telling me that it's M/N/NI). I'd like to propose 
adding that to "X Libraries".


gnome-settings-daemon's tests also needed 'umockdev' to complete the 
power section. Should we decide to add that, I'd like to propose it 
going into General Libraries. It would also be used in libgusb and 
upower for tests - however I'd say adding it is optional since we can 
mark the test suite as not functional unless it's installed (it also 
seems to use Mutter, which would cause a circular dependency - I'm not 
sure how to handle that).


What should we do here?

Thank you,

- Doug

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