Re: [blfs-dev] Dependency is missing (xinit)
On 02/14/2016 12:12 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: Agreed: I meant the book was correct respective to the OP claim. The deps you cite could be made recommended (instructions given later for starting X depend on them). Xorg-server is also only required at run-time, so, as you say, strictly speaking, the only required dep for building is the xorg libraires. But I am inclined to keep the server as required, because who would want to build xinit without a server? Yes, xorg7-lib as required with xorg-server as required (runtime) and all the others as recommended (runtime) would be correct in my opinion. xauth from xorg7-app is also used at runtime if available but doesn't seem to be pulled by the dependency chain as it's currently laid out in BLFS book. -- Igor Živković -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Dependency is missing (xinit)
Igor Živković wrote: On 02/13/2016 06:26 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: On 12/02/2016 16:36, Yukio Shiiya wrote: Hi, I encountered an error on the following page. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/7.8/x/xinit.html # ./configure $XORG_CONFIG \ --with-xinitdir=/etc/X11/app-defaults No package 'x11' found No package 'xproto' found I think that "Xorg Libraries" and "Xorg Protocol Headers" should be described as "Required Dependency". Thanks, Those packages are in the (very long) chain of required dependencies for xinit: (writing -> for "depends on") : xinit -> twm -> xorg-server -> Xorg fonts -> font-utils -> xcursor-themes -> bdftopcf -> mesa -> X libraries (inclidung libX11) -> libxcb -> libXau -> Xorg protos (including xproto). The book is correct. No, it is not. The technically correct thing to do would be to list xorg7-lib as required dependency to satisfy the build chain. twm, xclock and xterm are used by default xinitrc at *runtime* but can be easily commented out. That seems like a reasonable compromise. I'll go ahead and do that. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Dependency is missing (xinit)
> From: Pierre Labastie <pierre.labas...@neuf.fr> > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:12:24 +0100 > Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] Dependency is missing (xinit) > > On 14/02/2016 11:24, Igor ??ivkovi?? wrote: > > On 02/13/2016 06:26 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > >> On 12/02/2016 16:36, Yukio Shiiya wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I encountered an error on the following page. > >>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/7.8/x/xinit.html > >>> > >>> # ./configure $XORG_CONFIG \ > >>> --with-xinitdir=/etc/X11/app-defaults > >>> No package 'x11' found > >>> No package 'xproto' found > >>> > >>> I think that "Xorg Libraries" and "Xorg Protocol Headers" should be > >>> described as "Required Dependency". > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >> > >> Those packages are in the (very long) chain of required dependencies for > >> xinit: > >> (writing -> for "depends on") : > >> xinit -> twm -> xorg-server -> Xorg fonts -> font-utils -> xcursor-themes > >> -> > >> bdftopcf -> mesa -> X libraries (inclidung libX11) -> libxcb -> libXau -> > >> Xorg > >> protos (including xproto). > >> > >> The book is correct. > > > > No, it is not. The technically correct thing to do would be to list > > xorg7-lib > > as required dependency to satisfy the build chain. twm, xclock and xterm are > > used by default xinitrc at *runtime* but can be easily commented out. > > > > > Agreed: I meant the book was correct respective to the OP claim. The deps you > cite could be made recommended (instructions given later for starting X depend > on them). > Xorg-server is also only required at run-time, so, as you say, strictly > speaking, the only required dep for building is the xorg libraires. But I am > inclined to keep the server as required, because who would want to build xinit > without a server? This is the old mixup/conflation too-prevalent in b/lfs, between 'recommended' and 'required'; it makes the b/lfs deps infos less reliable than they might/could and should be. If a package B is not _required_ for building package A, then it should not be listed as _required_ . If it is _recommended_, then list it as _recommended_ ; and if nec mark that it is e.g. strongly-recommended, and give brief parenthesised few-words note why (as is done for various packages/pages). rgds, akh -- -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Dependency is missing (xinit)
On 02/13/2016 06:26 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: On 12/02/2016 16:36, Yukio Shiiya wrote: Hi, I encountered an error on the following page. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/7.8/x/xinit.html # ./configure $XORG_CONFIG \ --with-xinitdir=/etc/X11/app-defaults No package 'x11' found No package 'xproto' found I think that "Xorg Libraries" and "Xorg Protocol Headers" should be described as "Required Dependency". Thanks, Those packages are in the (very long) chain of required dependencies for xinit: (writing -> for "depends on") : xinit -> twm -> xorg-server -> Xorg fonts -> font-utils -> xcursor-themes -> bdftopcf -> mesa -> X libraries (inclidung libX11) -> libxcb -> libXau -> Xorg protos (including xproto). The book is correct. No, it is not. The technically correct thing to do would be to list xorg7-lib as required dependency to satisfy the build chain. twm, xclock and xterm are used by default xinitrc at *runtime* but can be easily commented out. -- Igor Živković -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Dependency is missing (xinit)
On 14/02/2016 11:24, Igor Živković wrote: > On 02/13/2016 06:26 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: >> On 12/02/2016 16:36, Yukio Shiiya wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I encountered an error on the following page. >>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/7.8/x/xinit.html >>> >>> # ./configure $XORG_CONFIG \ >>> --with-xinitdir=/etc/X11/app-defaults >>> No package 'x11' found >>> No package 'xproto' found >>> >>> I think that "Xorg Libraries" and "Xorg Protocol Headers" should be >>> described as "Required Dependency". >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> >> Those packages are in the (very long) chain of required dependencies for >> xinit: >> (writing -> for "depends on") : >> xinit -> twm -> xorg-server -> Xorg fonts -> font-utils -> xcursor-themes -> >> bdftopcf -> mesa -> X libraries (inclidung libX11) -> libxcb -> libXau -> >> Xorg >> protos (including xproto). >> >> The book is correct. > > No, it is not. The technically correct thing to do would be to list xorg7-lib > as required dependency to satisfy the build chain. twm, xclock and xterm are > used by default xinitrc at *runtime* but can be easily commented out. > > Agreed: I meant the book was correct respective to the OP claim. The deps you cite could be made recommended (instructions given later for starting X depend on them). Xorg-server is also only required at run-time, so, as you say, strictly speaking, the only required dep for building is the xorg libraires. But I am inclined to keep the server as required, because who would want to build xinit without a server? Pierre -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] Dependency is missing (xinit)
On 12/02/2016 16:36, Yukio Shiiya wrote: > Hi, > > I encountered an error on the following page. > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/7.8/x/xinit.html > > # ./configure $XORG_CONFIG \ > --with-xinitdir=/etc/X11/app-defaults > No package 'x11' found > No package 'xproto' found > > I think that "Xorg Libraries" and "Xorg Protocol Headers" should be > described as "Required Dependency". > > Thanks, > Those packages are in the (very long) chain of required dependencies for xinit: (writing -> for "depends on") : xinit -> twm -> xorg-server -> Xorg fonts -> font-utils -> xcursor-themes -> bdftopcf -> mesa -> X libraries (inclidung libX11) -> libxcb -> libXau -> Xorg protos (including xproto). The book is correct. Regards, Pierre -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
