Re: libpng-1.4.0

2010-03-07 Thread Simon Geard
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 20:43 +1300, Simon Geard wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 14:45 +, Andrew Benton wrote:
  Hello world,
  I recently rebuilt my system and used libpng-1.4.0. Most things worked 
  fine but there were 3 packages that gave me trouble.
  cairo-1.8.8 needs to be configured with
  ./configure png_REQUIRES=libpng14
  
  gimp needed a sed
  sed -i 's/gray_1/expand_gray_1/' plug-ins/file-ico/ico-load.c
  
  and xine-ui-0.99.5 needed a sed
  sed -i 's/png_check_sig(buf,/ !png_sig_cmp(buf, 0,/' 
  src/xitk/Imlib-light/load.c
  
  Andy
 
 Just trying this myself... would add xcursorgen (one of the Xorg
 packages), which required s/libpng12/libpng14/g on configure.

Also, cairo 1.8.10 appears to support libpng14 natively, no hackery
required.

Simon.


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Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread Matthew Burgess
Hi all,

I know a couple of folks here have built KDE recently.  I think I 
already know the answer to this, but I think I have to grab kdesupport 
out of SVN in order to build KDELibs, right?  My conclusion was arrived 
at because kdelibs wants 'automoc4' from kdesupport but there is no 
kdesupport tarball available from KDE's download site.

If that's the case, how do I stop things like oxygen-icons being built 
that already have their own tarballs available?  Preferably I don't even 
want to check out the oxygen-icons area of svn but I'm not sure that's 
possible...an 'svn update' on such a checkout would pull oxygen-icons 
next time around anyway, I would have thought.

rantWhy can't developers release a bloody tarball of their stuff?/rant

Thanks,

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Trouble building gir-repository

2010-03-07 Thread Lars Bamberger
Hi,

I've got some trouble compiling gir-repository as per current SVN and
was wondering if anybody else encountered the same problem. If this is
helpful, feel free to add it to the wiki.

Description of the problem
==

During 'make' in git-repository-0.6.5 and having
GNOME_PREFIX=/opt/gnome, in the directory gir-repository-0.6.5/gir the
command

/usr/bin/g-ir-scanner -v --namespace GConf --nsversion=2.0
--add-include-path=. --add-include-path=. \
--include=GObject-2.0 \
--library=gconf-2 \
--libtool=/bin/sh ../libtool \
--output GConf-2.0.gir \
--pkg gconf-2.0 \
`pkg-config --variable=includedir gconf-2.0`/gconf/2/gconf/*.h

returns (amongst other stuff):

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgconf-2

and

subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/bin/sh', '../libtool',
'--mode=link', '--tag=CC', '--silent', 'gcc', '-o',
'/home/bambi/build/blfs/gir-repository-0.6.5/gir/tmp-introspect6Bxd_B/GConf-2.0',
'-L.', '-lgconf-2', '-pthread', '-Wl,--export-dynamic', '-lgio-2.0',
'-lgirepository-1.0', '-lgobject-2.0', '-lgmodule-2.0', '-lgthread-2.0',
'-lrt', '-lglib-2.0',
'/home/bambi/build/blfs/gir-repository-0.6.5/gir/tmp-introspect6Bxd_B/GConf-2.0.o']'
returned non-zero exit status 1

Apparently, ld can't find libgconf-2.so, which lives in /opt/gnome/lib.


What I checked and tried


gconf-2.0.pc has the correct prefix set and can be found with
PKG_CONFIG_PATH.

Explicitly setting setting LDFLAGS to -L/opt/gnome/lib didn't remedy the
problem.

I've modified the 'g-ir-scanner' invocation to include
'--library-path=/opt/gnome/lib', no effect.

Manually running the libtool command fails. It will however complete
without error if '-L.' is substituted  with '-L/opt/gnome/lib'.

After that, a make will still fail in the same spot.


Workaround
==

I made a softlink from libgconf-2.0.so to the current directory. Turns
out, this process has to be repeated several times for various libs in
/opt/gnome/lib.


What I think is the problem
===

If GNOME_PREFIX is anything other than the usual system-paths, the build
mechanism passes incorrect arguments to libtool which can't find the
libs. Runing the whole autoconf stack (aclocal, autoheader, automake,
autoconf, configure, make) didn't help.



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Re: Trouble building gir-repository

2010-03-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Lars Bamberger wrote these words on 03/07/10 07:54 CST:
 What I think is the problem
 ===
 
 If GNOME_PREFIX is anything other than the usual system-paths, the build
 mechanism passes incorrect arguments to libtool which can't find the
 libs. Runing the whole autoconf stack (aclocal, autoheader, automake,
 autoconf, configure, make) didn't help.

That would be an exact description of what would happen if you did
not have an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf for /opt/gnome/lib.

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Re: Trouble building gir-repository

2010-03-07 Thread Lars Bamberger
On 07.03.2010 15:08, Randy McMurchy wrote:
 If GNOME_PREFIX is anything other than the usual system-paths, the build
 mechanism passes incorrect arguments to libtool which can't find the
 libs. Runing the whole autoconf stack (aclocal, autoheader, automake,
 autoconf, configure, make) didn't help.
 
 That would be an exact description of what would happen if you did
 not have an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf for /opt/gnome/lib.

ld.so.conf refers to the the _runtime_ linker /lib/ld.so and configures
the dynamic linker run-time bindings. I do have '/opt/gnome/lib' in my
'ld.so.conf'.

The problem I described occurred at _compile_ time, so the linker
affected here is /usr/bin/ld, the GNU linker.

One thing I didn't do however, is set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment
variable. I remember reading an article somewhere saying that setting
this was a bad idea, so I didn't tinker with it.

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Re: Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On 7 March 2010 11:37, Matthew Burgess matt...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 I know a couple of folks here have built KDE recently.  I think I
 already know the answer to this, but I think I have to grab kdesupport
 out of SVN in order to build KDELibs, right?  My conclusion was arrived
 at because kdelibs wants 'automoc4' from kdesupport but there is no
 kdesupport tarball available from KDE's download site.


 Not recent, but when I was building kde4 I used to grab source tarballs
from e.g. Arch.  A quick google suggests Slackware have
automoc-0.9.88.tar.bz2 (failing tarballs, there's always rpm2cpio).
At that time, I grabbed phonon from debian, looks as if qimageblitz
maybe had a proper release.  Looked as if a version gets tagged in
svn from time to time, but tarballs aren't prepared.

 If that's the case, how do I stop things like oxygen-icons being built
 that already have their own tarballs available?  Preferably I don't even
 want to check out the oxygen-icons area of svn but I'm not sure that's
 possible...an 'svn update' on such a checkout would pull oxygen-icons
 next time around anyway, I would have thought.

 Don't know, and I'm afraid I don't care - building software became
a lot easier when I gave up kde4 and cmake.


 rantWhy can't developers release a bloody tarball of their stuff?/rant

 Because they think most people will rely on a distro to package and
test it.  Or perhaps they think it's cool to always be on the bleeding
edge.

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Re: Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread Trent Shea
On Sunday 07 March 2010 04:37:28 Matthew Burgess wrote:
 rantWhy can't developers release a bloody tarball of their stuff?/rant
ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/automoc4/0.9.88

Found this after my first message. I'm not sure what's all in kdesupport 
though, so I can't tell if everything is there, or just kde hosted parts 
*shrug.

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Re: Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread Trent Shea
On Sunday 07 March 2010 04:37:28 Matthew Burgess wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I know a couple of folks here have built KDE recently.  I think I
 already know the answer to this, but I think I have to grab kdesupport
 out of SVN in order to build KDELibs, right?  My conclusion was arrived
 at because kdelibs wants 'automoc4' from kdesupport but there is no
 kdesupport tarball available from KDE's download site.

You shouldn't need to, I don't. I use svn and grab the tagged packages. You 
can grab phonon from gitorious now:
http://gitorious.org/phonon/phonon/commits/4.4 KDE hosts it, too, but I 
remember there being a lot of trouble with it recently.



Some notes:
It's no longer possible to build against qt's phonon. It was never really 
supported, but you used to be able to force it by creating a link.

When I build qt and kde's phonon I notice that the some of the qt demos crash:

/opt/qt-4.6-
d1f77a5e47d79b9fb688046a7357bc0c8b21c875/demos/qmediaplayer/qmediaplayer: 
symbol lookup error: 
/opt/kde-4.4-1078786/lib/kde4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_xine.so: undefined 
symbol: _ZN6Phonon12PulseSupport11getInstanceEv

/opt/qt-4.6.2/demos/qmediaplayer/qmediaplayer: symbol lookup error: 
/opt/kde-1092481/lib/kde4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_gstreamer.so: undefined 
symbol: _ZN6Phonon12PulseSupport11getInstanceEv

I still build the qt phonon, though, because I'm pretty sure that 
qtscriptgenerator, a dependency for amarok, requires it (I can't remember the 
details, and I just haven't had the time to experiment (qt is just too big to 
keep rebuilding.) That said, you'll want to add these variables to your 
kdelibs build if you have qt phonon (all the other kde packages locate the kde 
phonon after.): -DPHONON_INCLUDE_DIR=/opt/kde-1092481/include -
DPHONON_LIBRARY=/opt/kde-1092481/lib/libphonon.so

I've also held back to redland-1.0.8. I remember quite the frustration with 
trying to upgrade it awhile back, later versions don't include rasqal and 
raptor in the tarball, which is good, but I couldn't get the 'real' packaged 
versions to work together, maybe things are different today it was few months 
ago I was fighting with it.


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Re: Trouble building gir-repository

2010-03-07 Thread Andrew Benton
On 07/03/10 14:59, Lars Bamberger wrote:
 ld.so.conf refers to the the _runtime_ linker /lib/ld.so and configures
 the dynamic linker run-time bindings. I do have '/opt/gnome/lib' in my
 'ld.so.conf'.

 The problem I described occurred at _compile_ time, so the linker
 affected here is /usr/bin/ld, the GNU linker.

 One thing I didn't do however, is set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment
 variable. I remember reading an article somewhere saying that setting
 this was a bad idea, so I didn't tinker with it.


Does setting LD_RUN_PATH help?

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GVFS isn't loading at session start

2010-03-07 Thread Maginot Junior
Hi.


I have built gnome 2.28.1 with gdm 2.20.8 (I notice that 2.28.1 is
missing gdm-setup) and gvfs-1.4.1 (I have updated to gvfs-1.4.3 trying
to fix my problem, no success), my dbus version is 1.2.16 and I'm
using X11R7.5.

I build gnome using prefix=/opt/gnome, and gvfs was configured with
this parameters: ./configure --prefix=/opt/gnome
--sysconfdir=/etc/gnome/2.28.1 --libexecdir=/opt/gnome/lib/gvfs

To make dbus start gvfs I included inside /etc/dbus-1/session-local.conf this:

!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
 -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN
 http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd;
busconfig

 !-- Search for .service files in /usr/local --
 servicedir/opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/servicedir
 servicedir/usr/share/dbus-1/services/servicedir

/busconfig

Inside /opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services I have:

ls -l /opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/
total 28
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  71 Mar  7 10:11 gvfs-daemon.service
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  82 Mar  7 10:11 gvfs-metadata.service
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  72 Jan 24 21:58 org.gnome.GConf.service
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 122 Jan 24 23:36 org.gnome.keyring.service
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110 Jan 25 03:49 org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.service
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111 Mar  7 10:11
org.gtk.Private.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor.service
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 103 Mar  7 10:11 org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor.service

If I grep for gvfs it returns:

grep gvfs /opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/*
/opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/gvfs-daemon.service:Exec=/opt/gnome/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
/opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/gvfs-metadata.service:Exec=/opt/gnome/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-metadata
/opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/org.gtk.Private.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor.service:Exec=/opt/gnome/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
/opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor.service:Exec=/opt/gnome/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor

GDM starts my session with the follow options:

cat /opt/gnome/share/xsessions/gnome-dbus.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=GNOME with D-BUS
Comment=GNOME Desktop with D-BUS support
Exec=dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
TryExec=/usr/bin/dbus-launch
Icon=
Type=Application

Well... after saying all this the problem is that after starting my
gnome session, I can't open locations such as computer://, trash://,
network://, everytime I try I get Error: Operation not supported,
the same error is returned if I try gvfs-ls trash:// on the terminal.
Running lsof | grep gvfs returns me nothing, lsof | grep dbus give-me
the following:

dbus-daem  965 messagebus  cwd   DIR8,2  4096  2 /
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  rtd   DIR8,2  4096  2 /
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  txt   REG8,2   1129827
1939265 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  mem   REG8,2 54318
773034 /lib/libnss_files-2.10.1.so
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  mem   REG8,2   1732630
773049 /lib/libc-2.10.1.so
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  mem   REG8,2 39213
773048 /lib/librt-2.10.1.so
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  mem   REG8,2127937
773032 /lib/libpthread-2.10.1.so
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  mem   REG8,2392869
1161581 /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.5.2
dbus-daem  965 messagebus  mem   REG8,2144967
773044 /lib/ld-2.10.1.so
dbus-daem  965 messagebus0u  CHR1,3   0t0
262 /dev/null
dbus-daem  965 messagebus1u  CHR1,3   0t0
262 /dev/null
dbus-daem  965 messagebus2u  CHR1,3   0t0
262 /dev/null
dbus-daem  965 messagebus3u unix 0xf6cdd540   0t0
2414 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus4u  CHR1,3   0t0
262 /dev/null
dbus-daem  965 messagebus5r  DIR0,9 0  1 inotify
dbus-daem  965 messagebus6u unix 0xf6da8380   0t0   2417 socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus7u unix 0xf6da8a80   0t0   2418 socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus8u unix 0xf6ef01c0   0t0
2519 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus9u unix 0xf6da8700   0t0
2538 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus   10u unix 0xf6da8e00   0t0
2557 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus   11u unix 0xf6cdd1c0   0t0
2714 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus   15u unix 0xf6432700   0t0
3230 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus   16u unix 0xf6432e00   0t0
3226 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
dbus-daem  965 messagebus   19u unix 0xf64e2000   0t0
4105 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
hald  1004  haldaemon  mem   REG8,2803157
2070613 /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.4.0
hald  1004  haldaemon  mem   REG8,2336829
1949747 /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0
console-k 1007   root  mem   REG8,2803157
2070613 /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.4.0

Re: Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread linux fan
On 3/7/10, Matthew Burgess matt...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 rantWhy can't developers release a bloody tarball of their stuff?/rant

They do have tarballs. The trick is getting the non-kde required stuff.
I compared build instructions in 3 places and made composite instructions
to build 4.3.4 successfully. It is updated to 4.4.0, but as yet untested.
Replacing 4.4.0 with 4.4.1 in all the instructions should work.

This page points to the tarballs and has the build instructions I used:
http://linux-fan-alfs.blogspot.com/2009/12/build-kde-434-from-source.html
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Re: GVFS isn't loading at session start

2010-03-07 Thread Lars Bamberger
On 07.03.2010 18:24, Maginot Junior wrote:
 I can't open locations such as computer://, trash://,
 network://, everytime I try I get Error: Operation not supported,

Hi,

I have had the very same problem a while back. I traced it back to an
undocumented dependency of gnome-vfs on gvfs. The solution was to build
gvfs as soon as possible in the GNOME build process and build everything
GNOME anew again. Some package (possibly nautilus) seems not to complain
a missing gvfs, use a fallback, and not give the full functionality.
That was a while back, however and gnome-vfs is depreciated by now.

My recommendation is to build gvfs and nautilus again (in that order)
and take a very close look at the output of configure and make in order
to find any missing references.

BTW: My configuration file match yours, so that seems OK.

HTH
Lars


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Re: GVFS isn't loading at session start

2010-03-07 Thread Maginot Junior
Hey Lars, thanks for the quick reply, unfortunately I did already
this, actually to guarantee I just did it again, compiled gvfs-1.4.3
and nautilus-2.28.1, nothing seens to change.

When you had this issue, did you just recompiled gvfs and nautilus or
any other package too ?

Do you think gnome-vfs can be a problem to gvfs ?


I hope not to have to compiled and install all gnome stuff again, I
took a little while to notice this issue, and I have a almost full
distro build, hehe


hey, thanks again its good to see that I'm not the only one who had this issue.


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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Lars Bamberger
maill...@herr-der-mails.de wrote:
 On 07.03.2010 18:24, Maginot Junior wrote:
 I can't open locations such as computer://, trash://,
 network://, everytime I try I get Error: Operation not supported,

 Hi,

 I have had the very same problem a while back. I traced it back to an
 undocumented dependency of gnome-vfs on gvfs. The solution was to build
 gvfs as soon as possible in the GNOME build process and build everything
 GNOME anew again. Some package (possibly nautilus) seems not to complain
 a missing gvfs, use a fallback, and not give the full functionality.
 That was a while back, however and gnome-vfs is depreciated by now.

 My recommendation is to build gvfs and nautilus again (in that order)
 and take a very close look at the output of configure and make in order
 to find any missing references.

 BTW: My configuration file match yours, so that seems OK.

 HTH
 Lars


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Re: Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread Matthew Burgess
Ken Moffat wrote:
 On 7 March 2010 11:37, Matthew Burgess matt...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 Hi all,

 I know a couple of folks here have built KDE recently.  I think I
 already know the answer to this, but I think I have to grab kdesupport
 out of SVN in order to build KDELibs, right?  My conclusion was arrived
 at because kdelibs wants 'automoc4' from kdesupport but there is no
 kdesupport tarball available from KDE's download site.

 
  Not recent, but when I was building kde4 I used to grab source tarballs
 from e.g. Arch.  A quick google suggests Slackware have
 automoc-0.9.88.tar.bz2 (failing tarballs, there's always rpm2cpio).
 At that time, I grabbed phonon from debian, looks as if qimageblitz
 maybe had a proper release.  Looked as if a version gets tagged in
 svn from time to time, but tarballs aren't prepared.
 
 If that's the case, how do I stop things like oxygen-icons being built
 that already have their own tarballs available?  Preferably I don't even
 want to check out the oxygen-icons area of svn but I'm not sure that's
 possible...an 'svn update' on such a checkout would pull oxygen-icons
 next time around anyway, I would have thought.
 
  Don't know, and I'm afraid I don't care - building software became
 a lot easier when I gave up kde4 and cmake.

I'm seriously considering giving up on it too, to be honest.  The cmake 
output clearly stated that I needed to use automoc from kdesupport, but 
now folks are pointing me at old automoc tarballs.  If the dev's can't 
even be bothered to update their dependency documentation then it 
doesn't bode well for the rest of what I might encounter.  Various 
howtos I've found on the net also point at pulling phonon from git, and 
various other bits from their respective SCM repositories.  That's not 
for me, I'm afraid.  How on earth upstream devs cope with bug reports 
when they've no way of controlling/repeating what their users might be 
linking against I've no idea.

Following on from the earlier thread discussing lightweight window 
managers/desktop environments, I'm currently trying to get lxde put 
together.  lxdm requires consolekit which requires polkit which requires 
PAM.  Despite polkit accepting '--with-authfw=shadow' it bails as there 
are assumptions all over the code on PAM being present.  What was it I 
said above about developers accurately detailing their dependencies :-). 
  Aside from that though, I think lxde might be just what I'm after!

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Re: Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote:
 Ken Moffat wrote:

  Don't know, and I'm afraid I don't care - building software became
 a lot easier when I gave up kde4 and cmake.
 
 I'm seriously considering giving up on it too, to be honest.  The cmake 
 output clearly stated that I needed to use automoc from kdesupport, but 
 now folks are pointing me at old automoc tarballs.  If the dev's can't 
 even be bothered to update their dependency documentation then it 
 doesn't bode well for the rest of what I might encounter.  Various 
 howtos I've found on the net also point at pulling phonon from git, and 
 various other bits from their respective SCM repositories.  That's not 
 for me, I'm afraid.  How on earth upstream devs cope with bug reports 
 when they've no way of controlling/repeating what their users might be 
 linking against I've no idea.
 
 Following on from the earlier thread discussing lightweight window 
 managers/desktop environments, I'm currently trying to get lxde put 
 together.  lxdm requires consolekit which requires polkit which requires 
 PAM.  Despite polkit accepting '--with-authfw=shadow' it bails as there 
 are assumptions all over the code on PAM being present.  What was it I 
 said above about developers accurately detailing their dependencies :-). 
   Aside from that though, I think lxde might be just what I'm after!

One of the nice things about LFS is that you don't need to always 
upgrade.  I still use KDE3 as my main system.  I don't need a lot of 
extra stuff.  The main things I use are kicker and konsole.

I never use konquoror unless I'm using it to check out a web page 
against my usual browser.

I do really like konsole because if the look and feel of the tabbed 
consoles (Gnome's version seems klunky).  I also like ksnapshot and 
occasionally use kruler.  I never use the kde editors, koffice, kmail, etc.

It's a shame that they didn't just do a straight port of kde3 to qt4.

On my LFS build/test system, I use fluxbox when I need a window manager, 
but mostly I cna jsut run X apps there via ssh.

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Re: Building KDE-4.4.1

2010-03-07 Thread Trent Shea
On Sunday 07 March 2010 17:14:48 Matthew Burgess wrote:
 Ken Moffat wrote:
  a lot easier when I gave up kde4 and cmake.
 
 I'm seriously considering giving up on it too, to be honest.  The cmake
 output clearly stated that I needed to use automoc from kdesupport, but
 now folks are pointing me at old automoc tarballs.
CMake Error at 
/usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:
70 (MESSAGE):
  Did not find automoc4 (part of kdesupport).  Searched for
  Automoc4Config.cmake in using suffixes automoc4 lib/automoc4
  lib64/automoc4.  (missing: AUTOMOC4_EXECUTABLE)

I read this as it could be found in kdesupport, but you're correct this should 
be a minimum version check and a concise, clear message; things have gotten a 
lot better over the last couple of releases, for instance I haven't had to 
fuss with a cmake files in months! but, there's still a ways to go...


 If the dev's can't
 even be bothered to update their dependency documentation then it
 doesn't bode well for the rest of what I might encounter.  Various
 howtos I've found on the net also point at pulling phonon from git, and
 various other bits from their respective SCM repositories.  That's not
 for me, I'm afraid.  How on earth upstream devs cope with bug reports
 when they've no way of controlling/repeating what their users might be
 linking against I've no idea.
Well, in my opinion the current phonon situation is ridiculous. I haven't 
bothered to read the rational behind why kde is still maintaining/developing a 
branch, but it feels like there should be an effort to merge, and just maintain 
additional backends. (just to emphasize, this is my opinion based on what 
sounds/seems like common sense;)

 
 Following on from the earlier thread discussing lightweight window
 managers/desktop environments, I'm currently trying to get lxde put
 together.  lxdm requires consolekit which requires polkit which requires
 PAM.  Despite polkit accepting '--with-authfw=shadow' it bails as there
 are assumptions all over the code on PAM being present.  What was it I
 said above about developers accurately detailing their dependencies :-).
   Aside from that though, I think lxde might be just what I'm after!
I've been tempted to drop KDE a number of times; the kitchen sink approach is 
a bit overwhelming and it's getting tiring, but the mail client keeps dragging 
me back. And really, things have been getting better ( I keep telling myself 
that.)


 Matt.

Just as an aside:

There's been a lot of work from James Tyrer:
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/LFS

I can also provide my build notes, they're pretty specific to my hacked dpkg 
system, but may be a good reference.


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Re: GVFS isn't loading at session start

2010-03-07 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
On 08/03/10 04:24, Maginot Junior wrote:
 Hi.
 
 
 I have built gnome 2.28.1 with gdm 2.20.8 (I notice that 2.28.1 is
 missing gdm-setup) and gvfs-1.4.1 (I have updated to gvfs-1.4.3 trying
 to fix my problem, no success), my dbus version is 1.2.16 and I'm
 using X11R7.5.
 
 I build gnome using prefix=/opt/gnome, and gvfs was configured with
 this parameters: ./configure --prefix=/opt/gnome
 --sysconfdir=/etc/gnome/2.28.1 --libexecdir=/opt/gnome/lib/gvfs
 
 To make dbus start gvfs I included inside /etc/dbus-1/session-local.conf this:
 
 !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
  -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN
  http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd;
 busconfig
 
  !-- Search for .service files in /usr/local --
  servicedir/opt/gnome/share/dbus-1/services/servicedir
  servicedir/usr/share/dbus-1/services/servicedir
 
 /busconfig
 

I've also seen this before but cannot remember the cause. Can you let me
know what you have in /etc/dbus-1/system-local.conf, and also have a
look at the log files under /var/log/gdm.
Can you also let us know what optional dependencies you had installed
for both gvfs and gdm.
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Re: GVFS isn't loading at session start

2010-03-07 Thread Wayne Blaszczyk
On 08/03/10 13:52, Maginot Junior wrote:
 My session-local.conf has the follow information:

 I've also seen this before but cannot remember the cause. Can you let me
 know what you have in /etc/dbus-1/system-local.conf, and also have a
 look at the log files under /var/log/gdm.
 Can you also let us know what optional dependencies you had installed
 for both gvfs and gdm.
 Thanks,
 Wayne.
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Maginot,
I did ask for /etc/dbus-1/system-local.conf
and not session-local.conf.
If you don't have system-local.conf then this could be your problem.
It should contain:
!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
 -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN
 http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd;
busconfig

  !-- Search for .conf files in /etc/gnome/2.28.2/dbus-1/system.d --
  includedir/etc/gnome/2.28.2/dbus-1/system.d/includedir

/busconfig
Substituting the correct Gnome version.
Regards,
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Re: GVFS isn't loading at session start

2010-03-07 Thread Maginot Junior
Really sorry, I get confused, I think I'm to anxious to fix this =)
back to the problem, I have both, system.conf and system-local.conf,
system-local.conf have the follow:

# cat /etc/dbus-1/system-local.conf
!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
 -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN
 http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd;
busconfig

  !-- Search for .conf files in /etc/gnome/2.28.1/dbus-1/system.d --
  includedir/etc/gnome/2.28.1/dbus-1/system.d/includedir

/busconfig

# ls -l /etc/gnome/2.28.1/dbus-1/system.d/
total 12
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 591 Jan 25 01:30 org.gnome.ClockApplet.Mechanism.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 497 Jan 25 04:23 org.gnome.CPUFreqSelector.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 570 Jan 24 21:58 org.gnome.GConf.Defaults.conf




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On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Wayne Blaszczyk
wblas...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 On 08/03/10 13:52, Maginot Junior wrote:
 My session-local.conf has the follow information:

 I've also seen this before but cannot remember the cause. Can you let me
 know what you have in /etc/dbus-1/system-local.conf, and also have a
 look at the log files under /var/log/gdm.
 Can you also let us know what optional dependencies you had installed
 for both gvfs and gdm.
 Thanks,
 Wayne.
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 Maginot,
 I did ask for /etc/dbus-1/system-local.conf
 and not session-local.conf.
 If you don't have system-local.conf then this could be your problem.
 It should contain:
 !DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
  -//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN
  http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd;
 busconfig

  !-- Search for .conf files in /etc/gnome/2.28.2/dbus-1/system.d --
  includedir/etc/gnome/2.28.2/dbus-1/system.d/includedir

 /busconfig
 Substituting the correct Gnome version.
 Regards,
 Wayne.



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