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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread Shaun Everiss



if you go to %appdata% open vg storm, then manamon2 you can transfer the 
files from there to the system in question you want.



On 15/11/2019 5:55 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:


Dang, yeah, I’ve tried reactivating it, and reinstalling with no luck. 
 I wish Manamon 2 stored the saved game in a file that I could 
transfer to another computer.


Best,

*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io  *On Behalf Of 
*Shane Davidson via Groups.Io

*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:58 PM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

I know I’m not the original poster, but I tried this myself with the 
same results. Eloquence works everyelse but games like Manamon/Manamon2.


I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling Eloquence.

*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io  *On Behalf Of 
*Shaun Everiss

*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:09 PM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

Hmmm not sure, I had an issue with vocaliser where the servers for 
both atguys and code factory went down and it simply wouldn't work 
till I reactivated it again, never lost a seat but who knows.


If its activated deactivate it, reactivate it, then restart.

Change the sapi synth to something else in manaman then change it back.

On 15/11/2019 12:05 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:

HI All,

SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with
manamon2.  The demo expired.  I then went online and bought it and
activated eloquence.  When I load manamon2, it still says to
register it, but when I use eloquence with NVDA, it works just fine.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?

Best,




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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread QuentinC


Hello,


Your progress in the adventure and what you have set for options are 
stored in two different files.


And your license is again somewhere else, as far I have understood.


So I suggest to delete appdata\roaming\manamon2\settings.dat and 
configure again voice settings.


Make a backup first, just in case, but this shouldn't break the license 
or your adventure.


Le 15.11.2019 à 05:55, Juan Hernandez a écrit :


Dang, yeah, I’ve tried reactivating it, and reinstalling with no luck. 
 I wish Manamon 2 stored the saved game in a file that I could 
transfer to another computer.


Best,

*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io  *On Behalf Of 
*Shane Davidson via Groups.Io

*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:58 PM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

I know I’m not the original poster, but I tried this myself with the 
same results. Eloquence works everyelse but games like Manamon/Manamon2.


I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling Eloquence.

*From:* blind-gamers@groups.io  *On Behalf Of 
*Shaun Everiss

*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:09 PM
*To:* blind-gamers@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

Hmmm not sure, I had an issue with vocaliser where the servers for 
both atguys and code factory went down and it simply wouldn't work 
till I reactivated it again, never lost a seat but who knows.


If its activated deactivate it, reactivate it, then restart.

Change the sapi synth to something else in manaman then change it back.

On 15/11/2019 12:05 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:

HI All,

SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with
manamon2.  The demo expired.  I then went online and bought it and
activated eloquence.  When I load manamon2, it still says to
register it, but when I use eloquence with NVDA, it works just fine.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?

Best,




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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread mattias


i think you can backup the savefile?


Den 15 november 2019 05:55:26 skrev "Juan Hernandez" 
:


Dang, yeah, I’ve tried reactivating it, and reinstalling with no luck.  I 
wish Manamon 2 stored the saved game in a file that I could transfer to 
another computer.


 


Best,

 

From: blind-gamers@groups.io  On Behalf Of Shane 
Davidson via Groups.Io

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:58 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

 

I know I’m not the original poster, but I tried this myself with the same 
results. Eloquence works everyelse but games like Manamon/Manamon2.


I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling Eloquence.

 

From: blind-gamers@groups.io  On Behalf Of Shaun 
Everiss

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:09 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

 

Hmmm not sure, I had an issue with vocaliser where the servers for both 
atguys and code factory went down and it simply wouldn't work till I 
reactivated it again, never lost a seat but who knows.


If its activated deactivate it, reactivate it, then restart.

Change the sapi synth to something else in manaman then change it back.

 

 


On 15/11/2019 12:05 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:

HI All,

 

SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with manamon2.  The 
demo expired.  I then went online and bought it and activated eloquence.  
When I load manamon2, it still says to register it, but when I use 
eloquence with NVDA, it works just fine.


 


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?

 


Best,

 









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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread Lenron

it does the file you need is in users, username AppData, Roaming, and VgStorm.

On 11/14/19, Juan Hernandez  wrote:
> Dang, yeah, I’ve tried reactivating it, and reinstalling with no luck.  I
> wish Manamon 2 stored the saved game in a file that I could transfer to
> another computer.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> From: blind-gamers@groups.io  On Behalf Of Shane
> Davidson via Groups.Io
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:58 PM
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence
>
>
>
> I know I’m not the original poster, but I tried this myself with the same
> results. Eloquence works everyelse but games like Manamon/Manamon2.
>
> I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling Eloquence.
>
>
>
> From: blind-gamers@groups.io  On Behalf Of Shaun
> Everiss
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:09 PM
> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence
>
>
>
> Hmmm not sure, I had an issue with vocaliser where the servers for both
> atguys and code factory went down and it simply wouldn't work till I
> reactivated it again, never lost a seat but who knows.
>
> If its activated deactivate it, reactivate it, then restart.
>
> Change the sapi synth to something else in manaman then change it back.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15/11/2019 12:05 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:
>
> HI All,
>
>
>
> SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with manamon2.  The
> demo expired.  I then went online and bought it and activated eloquence.
> When I load manamon2, it still says to register it, but when I use eloquence
> with NVDA, it works just fine.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>


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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread Juan Hernandez

Dang, yeah, I’ve tried reactivating it, and reinstalling with no luck.  I wish 
Manamon 2 stored the saved game in a file that I could transfer to another 
computer.

 

Best,

 

From: blind-gamers@groups.io  On Behalf Of Shane 
Davidson via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:58 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

 

I know I’m not the original poster, but I tried this myself with the same 
results. Eloquence works everyelse but games like Manamon/Manamon2.

I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling Eloquence.

 

From: blind-gamers@groups.io  On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:09 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

 

Hmmm not sure, I had an issue with vocaliser where the servers for both atguys 
and code factory went down and it simply wouldn't work till I reactivated it 
again, never lost a seat but who knows.

If its activated deactivate it, reactivate it, then restart.

Change the sapi synth to something else in manaman then change it back.

 

 

On 15/11/2019 12:05 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:

HI All,

 

SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with manamon2.  The demo 
expired.  I then went online and bought it and activated eloquence.  When I 
load manamon2, it still says to register it, but when I use eloquence with 
NVDA, it works just fine.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?

 

Best,

 




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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread Shane Davidson via Groups.Io

I know I'm not the original poster, but I tried this myself with the same
results. Eloquence works everyelse but games like Manamon/Manamon2.

I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling Eloquence.

 

From: blind-gamers@groups.io  On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:09 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

 

Hmmm not sure, I had an issue with vocaliser where the servers for both
atguys and code factory went down and it simply wouldn't work till I
reactivated it again, never lost a seat but who knows.

If its activated deactivate it, reactivate it, then restart.

Change the sapi synth to something else in manaman then change it back.

 

 

On 15/11/2019 12:05 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:

HI All,

 

SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with manamon2.  The
demo expired.  I then went online and bought it and activated eloquence.
When I load manamon2, it still says to register it, but when I use eloquence
with NVDA, it works just fine.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?

 

Best,

 




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[blind-gamers] that annoying rope thing

2019-11-14 Thread Christy S

Okay folks. I don't know how many of you do or don't know this,, but 
it's a very very important key.



when focused on an item, whether it's in your inventory, or in a 
buy/sell list at a market or pretty much any other place, press the 
letter n to get a description of what the item does.



This stiff rope everyone is talking about, is actually a robe, not a 
rope. How do I know this? here's the description, when I press n while 
it is focused in the buy menu.



This robe keeps the wearer from recoiling.


That's the stiff robe, not stiff rope, and is going to be no help in 
climbing trees.



I have no idea when you get the rope, because I don't have it yet, and 
I've finished the third stadium and am now trying to get across the 
desert. Presumably, unless I missed something somewhere, it shows up 
after where I am.



Hope this helps.



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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread Shaun Everiss

Hmmm not sure, I had an issue with vocaliser where the servers for both 
atguys and code factory went down and it simply wouldn't work till I 
reactivated it again, never lost a seat but who knows.


If its activated deactivate it, reactivate it, then restart.

Change the sapi synth to something else in manaman then change it back.



On 15/11/2019 12:05 pm, Juan Hernandez wrote:


HI All,

SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with manamon2.  
The demo expired.  I then went online and bought it and activated 
eloquence.  When I load manamon2, it still says to register it, but 
when I use eloquence with NVDA, it works just fine.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?

Best,




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[blind-gamers] manamon 2 and eloquence

2019-11-14 Thread Juan Hernandez

HI All,

 

SO I was running the eloquence from codefactory demo with manamon2.  The
demo expired.  I then went online and bought it and activated eloquence.
When I load manamon2, it still says to register it, but when I use eloquence
with NVDA, it works just fine.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how fix this?

 

Best,

 


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[blind-gamers] Manamon 2, frozen hinterlands

2019-11-14 Thread Katie Epperson via Groups.Io

Spoilers ahead. I just got to this area, and I'm stuck. I did find a random 
statue, and I'm totally confused.

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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon2 and climbing

2019-11-14 Thread QuentinC

Hello,

I have beaten the symphony, got the copter, flew back to the city with 
the power plan, bought the stift rope from the shop there, but I'm still 
unable to climb to the trees.

Do I have something missing, or I just don't understand how to use that 
item ?

I tried with or without equipping it to a manamon, it doesn't work when 
I press enter in front of the tree.

I haven't yet passed the 3rd stadium, though.

Thank you.

Le 14.11.2019 à 20:24, Shaun Everiss a écrit :
I suspect as much, I was told the actual rope I need comes after I 
kill that music guy, but I have had a stone team and aparently thats a 
nono, there is a mega uber topic with everything in it but its the 
size of a country.

I wish someone would write a guide for this game.

Some of the puzzles and chars while simple in their design are 
sometimes a little hidden.

On 15/11/2019 6:11 am, QuentinC wrote:

Hello,

> i had a team with a few types on it. in the market place where the 
power plant is it says stiff robe not rope or is it a isstake

I have bought that item, and either I haven't understood  know how to 
use it, or it isn't ment to climb on trees.

It does nothing if I have it in my inventory. It does nothing either 
if I equip it to a manamon.

If it works the same as the hammer to crush rocks or the grip to move 
heavy rocks, then having it just in the inventory should suffice...

> This chest in the power plant do I want to open  it?

Unless there are more than one locked chests in the power plan, I can 
tell you that it is interesting but doesn't contain the rope. I'm 
still searching the rope, too.

Le 14.11.2019 à 17:21, joseph weakland via Groups.Io a écrit :

i killed the cymphonit but whats this event after this?

On 11/14/2019 3:53 AM, Lenron wrote:

Thanks got them all now just need to get the one in the tree so will
be doing that later. This chest in the power plant do I want to open
it?

On 11/14/19, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

1 in the market, and 1 in the hotell,.

The last one is in a strange tree, however you need to 1 buy the 
rope in

the market and 2 there is some event after you kill symphonid which I
have yet to get to.

On 14/11/2019 10:08 pm, Lenron wrote:
I am having a time of it trying to find the last 3 coins in that 
city.
I have found the ones in the exit house, the 3 in the power plant 
the

one behind the hotel, now where are the last 3?

On 11/14/19, Shaun Everiss  wrote:
Hmmm you need to buy the rope I think in the city with the 
powerplant

thats the only place I have seen a rope in.

How do you actually beat the musical thing, what units should I 
use,

aparently stone isn't it.

On 14/11/2019 9:01 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

i beat the musical monster and no rope was given:(

On 11/14/2019 1:49 AM, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

Sent from Joseph Weakland’s iPod

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Shaun Everiss 

wrote:

Well there was a rope to buy, but now I found out you need to 
defeat
the musical monster boss to get it and going stone well is 
just not

a good idea at all.

There is supposed to be a monster thread with everything on 
it but

its a load of stuff.

There should be a guide like manamon1 for players right now just
like a lot of arieas with rocks in them and logs, you will 
have to

leave things till you have the right tools to do the job, things
seem to happen in sequence though I would recommend 
finnishing as
many things off before you hit shaddow canian and in deed 
struttle,

because after that it becomes a bit stupid.

Once you can get the copter in the game you should in theory 
be able

to travel back to various places you have visited and I plan to
complete all the side quests before completing the main 
storyline.

On 14/11/2019 3:54 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:
how did you get the rope? i can't find it :( :(

also i can't find the girls 8th coin :( help:) please

On 11/12/2019 1:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I have restarted and have been told you need to climb 
a tree.

I have found the unusual tree, I have a rope and have 
equiped it.

Now what, hit enter and am told something unusual about 
this tree.

Now what, I can't find any way to interact with it or am I 
at the

wrong tree.

Also if there is water and I have a water type can't I swim 
over

and see what I see?

Can I get swimming gear later on?

Thanks

Shaun

Well, I did beat the big spider with all the webs and threads 
that I

didn’t get no rope weird

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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon2 and climbing

2019-11-14 Thread Shaun Everiss


Do not know, I havn't gotten that far yet.



On 15/11/2019 5:21 am, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

i killed the cymphonit but whats this event after this?

On 11/14/2019 3:53 AM, Lenron wrote:

Thanks got them all now just need to get the one in the tree so will
be doing that later. This chest in the power plant do I want to open
it?

On 11/14/19, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

1 in the market, and 1 in the hotell,.

The last one is in a strange tree, however you need to 1 buy the 
rope in

the market and 2 there is some event after you kill symphonid which I
have yet to get to.



On 14/11/2019 10:08 pm, Lenron wrote:

I am having a time of it trying to find the last 3 coins in that city.
I have found the ones in the exit house, the 3 in the power plant the
one behind the hotel, now where are the last 3?

On 11/14/19, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

Hmmm you need to buy the rope I think in the city with the powerplant
thats the only place I have seen a rope in.

How do you actually beat the musical thing, what units should I use,
aparently stone isn't it.



On 14/11/2019 9:01 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

i beat the musical monster and no rope was given:(

On 11/14/2019 1:49 AM, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

Sent from Joseph Weakland’s iPod


On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Shaun Everiss 
wrote:

Well there was a rope to buy, but now I found out you need to 
defeat
the musical monster boss to get it and going stone well is just 
not

a good idea at all.

There is supposed to be a monster thread with everything on it but
its a load of stuff.

There should be a guide like manamon1 for players right now just
like a lot of arieas with rocks in them and logs, you will have to
leave things till you have the right tools to do the job, things
seem to happen in sequence though I would recommend finnishing as
many things off before you hit shaddow canian and in deed 
struttle,

because after that it becomes a bit stupid.

Once you can get the copter in the game you should in theory be 
able

to travel back to various places you have visited and I plan to
complete all the side quests before completing the main storyline.




On 14/11/2019 3:54 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:
how did you get the rope? i can't find it :( :(

also i can't find the girls 8th coin :( help:) please



On 11/12/2019 1:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I have restarted and have been told you need to climb a 
tree.


I have found the unusual tree, I have a rope and have equiped 
it.


Now what, hit enter and am told something unusual about this 
tree.


Now what, I can't find any way to interact with it or am I at 
the

wrong tree.

Also if there is water and I have a water type can't I swim over
and see what I see?

Can I get swimming gear later on?

Thanks

Shaun




Well, I did beat the big spider with all the webs and threads 
that I

didn’t get no rope weird













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Re: [blind-gamers] help with shadow canyon on manamon 2 please?

2019-11-14 Thread mattias

Yes aroon have do it againManamon1: the impossible simon gameAnd now: the impossible ghost Skickades från E-post för Windows 10 Från: Christy SSkickat: den 13 november 2019 23:03Till: blind-gamers@groups.ioÄmne: Re: [blind-gamers] help with shadow canyon on manamon 2 please? There's a locked door. The key is in one of the other rooms, servant quarters I think? Unlock the door with that key and prepare for a fun, or maybe frustrating, fight. After that fight you can locate the hammer. On 11/13/2019 3:34 PM, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:If you mean the castle, I’ve been in there and all through there. Several times. Found absolutely nothing.On 13 Nov 2019, at 21:25, QuentinC wrote: Hello, > I can’t even find the Manor. Where exactly is it please? Explore more the city of shadow canyon. As far as I remember, globally you have a house on the west, the mana hotel further on the west, the shop a bit on the north, and the manor on the south east, a bit further. You will recognize it immediately, as its entrance door sounds different (a ancient metallic sound). Enough spoil for now, try to find by yourself what you should do there. ##===Personally, I'm in the city of the 3rd stadium. I don't have a well-fitted team to beat it yet.A question for that 3rd stadium though: if I pull up a plant instead of a weed, will I have to fight again all the tamers before the champion that I have alread beaten ? Le 13.11.2019 à 21:33, Darren Harris via Groups.Io a écrit :I can’t even find the Manor. Where exactly is it please?On 13 Nov 2019, at 20:32, QuentinC wrote: Hello, Have you already fought the boss of the manor ?If yes, then you shouldn't be long before finding the hammer. Le 13.11.2019 à 21:21, Darren Harris via Groups.Io a écrit :Ok I’m seriously stuck here. I’m guessing that I have to break that rock on the southern end of the map but I have nothing to break it with. Can someone please help me with this I really have no idea as to what to do here.

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Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3

2019-11-14 Thread Oriol Gómez

You can contact me off list, my email is in the group
ogomez@gmail.com

On 11/14/19, Stephen  wrote:
> Hey Oriol
> Can you please contact me off list regarding Beatstar?
> Thanks.
> At 10:02 PM 11/14/2019, you wrote:
>>Hello!
>>Beatstar (the electron version) is 32 bits Â and
>>should, in theory, support xp.
>>Let me know if this is not the case, please.
>>El El jue, 14 nov 2019 a las 11:52, Stephen
>><whocr...@internode.on.net> escribiÃ³:
>>I must add this method of adjusting the headers
>>in a windows executable is not foolproof. I've
>>tried this on games like beatstar and was met by
>>an avalanche of dotnet errors and other cryptic
>>error messages. When psychostrike and the gate
>>was released, Aaron baker made a pact on the
>>audiogames forum to try and remedy the issue
>>with XP users.Â  For one reason or another,
>>Aaron didn't get around to fixing the problem,
>>but I happened upon the solution quite by
>>accident (thank you very much heaven-tools) and
>>HXD Hex editor. At 01:34 AM 11/7/2019, you
>>wrote: >Agreed with Liam and others. >I see it
>>rather illogical to expect developers to
>>continue supporting >a long since discontinued
>>OS (approaching 6 years) riddled
>>with >vulnerabilities left right and center.
>>Many platforms, steam for >example, reportedly
>>no longer work anyway... So a game focused
>>box >would end up a particularly limited game
>>focused box. >If you're the type that likes to
>>hack your way around an outdated >system, to
>>each his own I suppose. > >Back to the main
>>point of the thread. Out of curiosity, how did
>>you >manage to pull that off? My understanding
>>has it that "not a valid >win32 application" can
>>be caused by an invalid PE header or
>>corrupt >executable. > > >On 11/6/19, Oriol
>>GÃƒÂ³mez
>><ogomez@gmail.com>
>>wrote: > > bgt might support xp, but some
>>underlying components that the game > > uses
>>might not. For instance, Elias does not support
>>xp, and some > > other dlls might not support it
>>either. > > > > On 11/6/19, john
>><jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
>>wrote: > >> Fair point - and as somebody whose
>>done work in Rust (which distinctly > >> doesn't
>>support xp well) I understand what you're
>>saying. > >> Bgt however, does support xp - or
>>should - and I'd like to be able to > >>
>>take > >> advantage of that. > >> > >> > >>
>>From: Liam Erven > >> Sent: Wednesday, November
>>06, 2019 7:48 > >> To:
>>blind-gamers@groups.io
>> > >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and
>>windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> And thatÃ¢€™s great
>>and all, but > > developerÃ¢€™s really
>>donÃ¢€™¢â‚¬â„¢t want to have to > >> support an
>>OS that letÃ¢€™s be honest. H. Has been out of
>>any sort of support > >> for > >> several years
>>now. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from
>>Mail for Windows 10 > >> > >> > >> > >> From:
>>john > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:07
>>AM > >> To:
>>blind-gamers@groups.io
>> > >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and
>>windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Xp shouldn't
>>be used as a primary os, and it should avoid the
>>internet > >> where > >> possible (which is
>>probably what you're referring to
>>here). > >> > >> That said, it still works just
>>fine for a lot of things as long as you're > >>
>>careful, and plays some games significantly
>>better (like GMA). > >> > >> So yeah, I'd like
>>the ability to play games on xp, because it lets
>>me use > >> my > >> xp machine as a gaming
>>focused box when I want to, and makes me free
>>to > >> switch between computers more easily
>>without having to judge what I can > >> and > >>
>>can't do with any one of
>>them. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Liam
>>Erven > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019
>>23:56 > >> > >> To:
>>blind-gamers@groups.io
>> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games
>>and windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Question.
>>It is almost 2020 and people are still using
>>xp? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from Mail
>>for Windows 10 > >> > >> > >> > >> From:
>>Stephen > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019
>>10:09 PM > >> To:
>>blind-gamers@groups.io
>> > >> Subject: [blind-gamers] BGT games and
>>windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Aaron and
>>other BGT developers. > >> > >> I managed to
>>find a little hack to get past the "not a valid
>>windows > >> > >> 32" application" error
>>messages. > >> > >> I was successfully able to
>>play and finish Manomon, the gate, and > >> > >>
>>even do a few missions in
>>psychostrike. > >> > >> However, I realise that
>>playing the bad guy didn't really sit
>>well > >> > >> with me, but I digress. > >> > >>
>>With your permission, I was wondering if it
>>would be OK if I either > >> > >> upload the
>>patched executables to my webspace, or sent the
>>patches to > >> > >> Aaron so that he could

Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3

2019-11-14 Thread Stephen


Hey Oriol
Can you please contact me off list regarding Beatstar?
Thanks.
At 10:02 PM 11/14/2019, you wrote:

Hello!
Beatstar (the electron version) is 32 bits Â and 
should, in theory, support xp.

Let me know if this is not the case, please.
El El jue, 14 nov 2019 a las 11:52, Stephen 
<whocr...@internode.on.net> escribiÃ³:
I must add this method of adjusting the headers 
in a windows executable is not foolproof. I've 
tried this on games like beatstar and was met by 
an avalanche of dotnet errors and other cryptic 
error messages. When psychostrike and the gate 
was released, Aaron baker made a pact on the 
audiogames forum to try and remedy the issue 
with XP users.Â  For one reason or another, 
Aaron didn't get around to fixing the problem, 
but I happened upon the solution quite by 
accident (thank you very much heaven-tools) and 
HXD Hex editor. At 01:34 AM 11/7/2019, you 
wrote: >Agreed with Liam and others. >I see it 
rather illogical to expect developers to 
continue supporting >a long since discontinued 
OS (approaching 6 years) riddled 
with >vulnerabilities left right and center. 
Many platforms, steam for >example, reportedly 
no longer work anyway... So a game focused 
box >would end up a particularly limited game 
focused box. >If you're the type that likes to 
hack your way around an outdated >system, to 
each his own I suppose. > >Back to the main 
point of the thread. Out of curiosity, how did 
you >manage to pull that off? My understanding 
has it that "not a valid >win32 application" can 
be caused by an invalid PE header or 
corrupt >executable. > > >On 11/6/19, Oriol 
GÃÂ³mez 
<ogomez@gmail.com> 
wrote: > > bgt might support xp, but some 
underlying components that the game > > uses 
might not. For instance, Elias does not support 
xp, and some > > other dlls might not support it 
either. > > > > On 11/6/19, john 
<jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> 
wrote: > >> Fair point - and as somebody whose 
done work in Rust (which distinctly > >> doesn't 
support xp well) I understand what you're 
saying. > >> Bgt however, does support xp - or 
should - and I'd like to be able to > >> 
take > >> advantage of that. > >> > >> > >> 
From: Liam Erven > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 
06, 2019 7:48 > >> To: 
blind-gamers@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and 
windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> And thatÃ¢s great 
and all, but > > developerÃ¢s really 
donÃ¢¢â¬â¢t want to have to > >> support an 
OS that letÃ¢s be honest. H. Has been out of 
any sort of support > >> for > >> several years 
now. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from 
Mail for Windows 10 > >> > >> > >> > >> From: 
john > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:07 
AM > >> To: 
blind-gamers@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and 
windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Xp shouldn't 
be used as a primary os, and it should avoid the 
internet > >> where > >> possible (which is 
probably what you're referring to 
here). > >> > >> That said, it still works just 
fine for a lot of things as long as you're > >> 
careful, and plays some games significantly 
better (like GMA). > >> > >> So yeah, I'd like 
the ability to play games on xp, because it lets 
me use > >> my > >> xp machine as a gaming 
focused box when I want to, and makes me free 
to > >> switch between computers more easily 
without having to judge what I can > >> and > >> 
can't do with any one of 
them. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Liam 
Erven > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 
23:56 > >> > >> To: 
blind-gamers@groups.io
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games 
and windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Question. 
It is almost 2020 and people are still using 
xp? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from Mail 
for Windows 10 > >> > >> > >> > >> From: 
Stephen > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 
10:09 PM > >> To: 
blind-gamers@groups.io
> >> Subject: [blind-gamers] BGT games and 
windows XPsp3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Aaron and 
other BGT developers. > >> > >> I managed to 
find a little hack to get past the "not a valid 
windows > >> > >> 32" application" error 
messages. > >> > >> I was successfully able to 
play and finish Manomon, the gate, and > >> > >> 
even do a few missions in 
psychostrike. > >> > >> However, I realise that 
playing the bad guy didn't really sit 
well > >> > >> with me, but I digress. > >> > >> 
With your permission, I was wondering if it 
would be OK if I either > >> > >> upload the 
patched executables to my webspace, or sent the 
patches to > >> > >> Aaron so that he could 
repackage them in his games? > >> > >> I'm sure 
there are still a few XP users out there who 
would dearly > >> > >> love to have a try at 
these 
titles. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 
 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3

2019-11-14 Thread Oriol Gómez

Hello!
Beatstar (the electron version) is 32 bits  and should, in theory, support
xp.
Let me know if this is not the case, please.

El El jue, 14 nov 2019 a las 11:52, Stephen 
escribió:

> I must add this method of adjusting the headers
> in a windows executable is not foolproof.
> I've tried this on games like beatstar and was
> met by an avalanche of dotnet errors and other cryptic error messages.
> When psychostrike and the gate was released,
> Aaron baker made a pact on the audiogames forum
> to try and remedy the issue with XP users.  For
> one reason or another, Aaron didn't get around to
> fixing the problem, but I happened upon the
> solution quite by accident (thank you very much
> heaven-tools) and HXD Hex editor.
> At 01:34 AM 11/7/2019, you wrote:
> >Agreed with Liam and others.
> >I see it rather illogical to expect developers to continue supporting
> >a long since discontinued OS (approaching 6 years) riddled with
> >vulnerabilities left right and center. Many platforms, steam for
> >example, reportedly no longer work anyway... So a game focused box
> >would end up a particularly limited game focused box.
> >If you're the type that likes to hack your way around an outdated
> >system, to each his own I suppose.
> >
> >Back to the main point of the thread. Out of curiosity, how did you
> >manage to pull that off? My understanding has it that "not a valid
> >win32 application" can be caused by an invalid PE header or corrupt
> >executable.
> >
> >
> >On 11/6/19, Oriol GÃ³mez  wrote:
> > > bgt might support xp, but some underlying components that the game
> > > uses might not. For instance, Elias does not support xp, and some
> > > other dlls might not support it either.
> > >
> > > On 11/6/19, john  wrote:
> > >> Fair point - and as somebody whose done work in Rust (which distinctly
> > >> doesn't support xp well) I understand what you're saying.
> > >> Bgt however, does support xp - or should - and I'd like to be able to
> > >> take
> > >> advantage of that.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Liam Erven
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 7:48
> > >> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> > >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> And thatâ€™s great and all, but
> > developerâ€™s really donâ€™t want to have to
> > >> support an OS that letâ€™s be honest. Has been out of any sort of
> support
> > >> for
> > >> several years now.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: john
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:07 AM
> > >> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> > >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Xp shouldn't be used as a primary os, and it should avoid the internet
> > >> where
> > >> possible (which is probably what you're referring to here).
> > >>
> > >> That said, it still works just fine for a lot of things as long as
> you're
> > >> careful, and plays some games significantly better (like GMA).
> > >>
> > >> So yeah, I'd like the ability to play games on xp, because it lets me
> use
> > >> my
> > >> xp machine as a gaming focused box when I want to, and makes me free
> to
> > >> switch between computers more easily without having to judge what I
> can
> > >> and
> > >> can't do with any one of them.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Liam Erven
> > >>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 23:56
> > >>
> > >> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Question. It is almost 2020 and people are still using xp?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Stephen
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 10:09 PM
> > >> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
> > >> Subject: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Aaron and other BGT developers.
> > >>
> > >> I managed to find a little hack to get past the "not a valid windows
> > >>
> > >> 32" application" error messages.
> > >>
> > >> I was successfully able to play and finish Manomon, the gate, and
> > >>
> > >> even do a few missions in psychostrike.
> > >>
> > >> However, I realise that playing the bad guy didn't really sit well
> > >>
> > >> with me, but I digress.
> > >>
> > >> With your permission, I was wondering if it would be OK if I either
> > >>
> > >> upload the patched executables to my webspace, or sent the patches to
> > >>
> > >> Aaron so that he could repackage them in his games?
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure there are still a few XP users out there who would dearly
> > >>
> > >> love to have a try at these titles.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >my github:
> >http://github.com/cartertemm
> >twitter: @cartertemm
> >
> >
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3

2019-11-14 Thread Stephen

I must add this method of adjusting the headers 
in a windows executable is not foolproof.
I've tried this on games like beatstar and was 
met by an avalanche of dotnet errors and other cryptic error messages.
When psychostrike and the gate was released, 
Aaron baker made a pact on the audiogames forum 
to try and remedy the issue with XP users.  For 
one reason or another, Aaron didn't get around to 
fixing the problem, but I happened upon the 
solution quite by accident (thank you very much 
heaven-tools) and HXD Hex editor.

At 01:34 AM 11/7/2019, you wrote:

Agreed with Liam and others.
I see it rather illogical to expect developers to continue supporting
a long since discontinued OS (approaching 6 years) riddled with
vulnerabilities left right and center. Many platforms, steam for
example, reportedly no longer work anyway... So a game focused box
would end up a particularly limited game focused box.
If you're the type that likes to hack your way around an outdated
system, to each his own I suppose.

Back to the main point of the thread. Out of curiosity, how did you
manage to pull that off? My understanding has it that "not a valid
win32 application" can be caused by an invalid PE header or corrupt
executable.


On 11/6/19, Oriol GÃ³mez  wrote:
> bgt might support xp, but some underlying components that the game
> uses might not. For instance, Elias does not support xp, and some
> other dlls might not support it either.
>
> On 11/6/19, john  wrote:
>> Fair point - and as somebody whose done work in Rust (which distinctly
>> doesn't support xp well) I understand what you're saying.
>> Bgt however, does support xp - or should - and I'd like to be able to
>> take
>> advantage of that.
>>
>>
>> From: Liam Erven
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 7:48
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
>>
>>
>> And thatâs great and all, but 
developerâs really donât want to have to

>> support an OS that letâs be honest. Has been out of any sort of support
>> for
>> several years now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> From: john
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:07 AM
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
>>
>>
>>
>> Xp shouldn't be used as a primary os, and it should avoid the internet
>> where
>> possible (which is probably what you're referring to here).
>>
>> That said, it still works just fine for a lot of things as long as you're
>> careful, and plays some games significantly better (like GMA).
>>
>> So yeah, I'd like the ability to play games on xp, because it lets me use
>> my
>> xp machine as a gaming focused box when I want to, and makes me free to
>> switch between computers more easily without having to judge what I can
>> and
>> can't do with any one of them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Liam Erven
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 23:56
>>
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
>>
>>
>>
>> Question. It is almost 2020 and people are still using xp?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Stephen
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 10:09 PM
>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io
>> Subject: [blind-gamers] BGT games and windows XPsp3
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron and other BGT developers.
>>
>> I managed to find a little hack to get past the "not a valid windows
>>
>> 32" application" error messages.
>>
>> I was successfully able to play and finish Manomon, the gate, and
>>
>> even do a few missions in psychostrike.
>>
>> However, I realise that playing the bad guy didn't really sit well
>>
>> with me, but I digress.
>>
>> With your permission, I was wondering if it would be OK if I either
>>
>> upload the patched executables to my webspace, or sent the patches to
>>
>> Aaron so that he could repackage them in his games?
>>
>> I'm sure there are still a few XP users out there who would dearly
>>
>> love to have a try at these titles.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon2 and climbing

2019-11-14 Thread Shaun Everiss


Well you need to find all the treasure keys.

I have only so far found 1, and yes if you find keys you will want to 
open the chests when you have them, because they have loot in them.




On 14/11/2019 10:53 pm, Lenron wrote:

Thanks got them all now just need to get the one in the tree so will
be doing that later. This chest in the power plant do I want to open
it?

On 11/14/19, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

1 in the market, and 1 in the hotell,.

The last one is in a strange tree, however you need to 1 buy the rope in
the market and 2 there is some event after you kill symphonid which I
have yet to get to.



On 14/11/2019 10:08 pm, Lenron wrote:

I am having a time of it trying to find the last 3 coins in that city.
I have found the ones in the exit house, the 3 in the power plant the
one behind the hotel, now where are the last 3?

On 11/14/19, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

Hmmm you need to buy the rope I think in the city with the powerplant
thats the only place I have seen a rope in.

How do you actually beat the musical thing, what units should I use,
aparently stone isn't it.



On 14/11/2019 9:01 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

i beat the musical monster and no rope was given:(

On 11/14/2019 1:49 AM, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

Sent from Joseph Weakland’s iPod


On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Shaun Everiss 
wrote:

Well there was a rope to buy, but now I found out you need to defeat
the musical monster boss to get it and going stone well is just not
a good idea at all.

There is supposed to be a monster thread with everything on it but
its a load of stuff.

There should be a guide like manamon1 for players right now just
like a lot of arieas with rocks in them and logs, you will have to
leave things till you have the right tools to do the job, things
seem to happen in sequence though I would recommend finnishing as
many things off before you hit shaddow canian and in deed struttle,
because after that it becomes a bit stupid.

Once you can get the copter in the game you should in theory be able
to travel back to various places you have visited and I plan to
complete all the side quests before completing the main storyline.




On 14/11/2019 3:54 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:
how did you get the rope? i can't find it :( :(

also i can't find the girls 8th coin :( help:) please



On 11/12/2019 1:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I have restarted and have been told you need to climb a tree.

I have found the unusual tree, I have a rope and have equiped it.

Now what, hit enter and am told something unusual about this tree.

Now what, I can't find any way to interact with it or am I at the
wrong tree.

Also if there is water and I have a water type can't I swim over
and see what I see?

Can I get swimming gear later on?

Thanks

Shaun





Well, I did beat the big spider with all the webs and threads that I
didn’t get no rope weird













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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon2 and climbing

2019-11-14 Thread Shaun Everiss


1 in the market, and 1 in the hotell,.

The last one is in a strange tree, however you need to 1 buy the rope in 
the market and 2 there is some event after you kill symphonid which I 
have yet to get to.




On 14/11/2019 10:08 pm, Lenron wrote:

I am having a time of it trying to find the last 3 coins in that city.
I have found the ones in the exit house, the 3 in the power plant the
one behind the hotel, now where are the last 3?

On 11/14/19, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

Hmmm you need to buy the rope I think in the city with the powerplant
thats the only place I have seen a rope in.

How do you actually beat the musical thing, what units should I use,
aparently stone isn't it.



On 14/11/2019 9:01 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

i beat the musical monster and no rope was given:(

On 11/14/2019 1:49 AM, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

Sent from Joseph Weakland’s iPod


On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Shaun Everiss 
wrote:

Well there was a rope to buy, but now I found out you need to defeat
the musical monster boss to get it and going stone well is just not
a good idea at all.

There is supposed to be a monster thread with everything on it but
its a load of stuff.

There should be a guide like manamon1 for players right now just
like a lot of arieas with rocks in them and logs, you will have to
leave things till you have the right tools to do the job, things
seem to happen in sequence though I would recommend finnishing as
many things off before you hit shaddow canian and in deed struttle,
because after that it becomes a bit stupid.

Once you can get the copter in the game you should in theory be able
to travel back to various places you have visited and I plan to
complete all the side quests before completing the main storyline.




On 14/11/2019 3:54 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:
how did you get the rope? i can't find it :( :(

also i can't find the girls 8th coin :( help:) please



On 11/12/2019 1:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I have restarted and have been told you need to climb a tree.

I have found the unusual tree, I have a rope and have equiped it.

Now what, hit enter and am told something unusual about this tree.

Now what, I can't find any way to interact with it or am I at the
wrong tree.

Also if there is water and I have a water type can't I swim over
and see what I see?

Can I get swimming gear later on?

Thanks

Shaun





Well, I did beat the big spider with all the webs and threads that I
didn’t get no rope weird











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Re: [blind-gamers] Monopoly on an IPhone?

2019-11-14 Thread Paul Lemm

Morning Sly,

I haven't tried it myself, so can't say how good it is, but there is a game 
called ears oppoly from Kid Friendly software For the iPhone. . I'll put the 
description from the App store below:

Ears Oppoly is a fully accessible board game inspired by the game Monopoly.

The playing board has 40 spots consisting of land properties, railroads, luck 
cards and other spots. You spin the dice, and move your token to the spot, 
where you may buy the property or pay rent.

You can play with up to 3 computer opponents, and you can adjust their playing 
strategy and skill level. You can play either a full game, or a short game, and 
you can modify several of the rules of the game for more variety. Some of those 
features require in-app upgrades.

The game comes with coins for playing a bunch of games; you can purchase more 
coins with an in-app upgrade.


Paul Lemm
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To: blind-gamers 
Subject: [blind-gamers] Monopoly on an IPhone?

Greetings Gamers!
Wondered if any one knew of an accessible version of Monopoly for IPones?
Thanks for any help in finding one.
Game On!  Sly





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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon2 and climbing

2019-11-14 Thread Shaun Everiss

Hmmm you need to buy the rope I think in the city with the powerplant 
thats the only place I have seen a rope in.


How do you actually beat the musical thing, what units should I use, 
aparently stone isn't it.




On 14/11/2019 9:01 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:

i beat the musical monster and no rope was given:(

On 11/14/2019 1:49 AM, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:


Sent from Joseph Weakland’s iPod

On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Shaun Everiss  
wrote:


Well there was a rope to buy, but now I found out you need to defeat 
the musical monster boss to get it and going stone well is just not 
a good idea at all.


There is supposed to be a monster thread with everything on it but 
its a load of stuff.


There should be a guide like manamon1 for players right now just 
like a lot of arieas with rocks in them and logs, you will have to 
leave things till you have the right tools to do the job, things 
seem to happen in sequence though I would recommend finnishing as 
many things off before you hit shaddow canian and in deed struttle, 
because after that it becomes a bit stupid.


Once you can get the copter in the game you should in theory be able 
to travel back to various places you have visited and I plan to  
complete all the side quests before completing the main storyline.





On 14/11/2019 3:54 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:
how did you get the rope? i can't find it :( :(

also i can't find the girls 8th coin :( help:) please



On 11/12/2019 1:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I have restarted and have been told you need to climb a tree.

I have found the unusual tree, I have a rope and have equiped it.

Now what, hit enter and am told something unusual about this tree.

Now what, I can't find any way to interact with it or am I at the 
wrong tree.


Also if there is water and I have a water type can't I swim over 
and see what I see?


Can I get swimming gear later on?

Thanks

Shaun






Well, I did beat the big spider with all the webs and threads that I 
didn’t get no rope weird






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Re: [blind-gamers] manamon2 and climbing

2019-11-14 Thread joseph weakland via Groups.Io


i beat the musical monster and no rope was given:(

On 11/14/2019 1:49 AM, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:


Sent from Joseph Weakland’s iPod


On Nov 13, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Shaun Everiss  wrote:

Well there was a rope to buy, but now I found out you need to defeat the 
musical monster boss to get it and going stone well is just not a good idea at 
all.

There is supposed to be a monster thread with everything on it but its a load 
of stuff.

There should be a guide like manamon1 for players right now just like a lot of 
arieas with rocks in them and logs, you will have to leave things till you have 
the right tools to do the job, things seem to happen in sequence though I would 
recommend finnishing as many things off before you hit shaddow canian and in 
deed struttle, because after that it becomes a bit stupid.

Once you can get the copter in the game you should in theory be able to travel 
back to various places you have visited and I plan to  complete all the side 
quests before completing the main storyline.




On 14/11/2019 3:54 pm, joseph weakland via Groups.Io wrote:
how did you get the rope? i can't find it :( :(

also i can't find the girls 8th coin :( help:) please



On 11/12/2019 1:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I have restarted and have been told you need to climb a tree.

I have found the unusual tree, I have a rope and have equiped it.

Now what, hit enter and am told something unusual about this tree.

Now what, I can't find any way to interact with it or am I at the wrong tree.

Also if there is water and I have a water type can't I swim over and see what I 
see?

Can I get swimming gear later on?

Thanks

Shaun






Well, I did beat the big spider with all the webs and threads that I didn’t get 
no rope weird





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