[BlindHandyMan] Happy Holidays!
I would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone on this list, Happy Holidays, and I sincerely hope all of you have a safe holiday season as well. Tom Hodges, Newport, Kentucky [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] watches
My watch just bit the dust, and I need to replace it. I kind of like having a talking one at home for the convenience when it is just me, but really a braille one is more appropriate in public. What are your thoughts on the merits of both. I am not working in a shop the way many of you guys are, but I suspect we have a lot of the same needs. I also am thinking about just getting a cheap one as I do seem to go through them quickly. Also, does anyone know why it is necessary for talking watches to actually say the words the time is.. instead of just saying the time? How about a little ping on the hour instead of the whole beg sentence getting the rooms attention too. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] watches
Jennifer, I forgot to mention that the 20 dollar talking watch from maxi aids, has 4 individual alarms, and a stop watch, as well. The four alarms seem like overkill, but, they can be used to get up in the morning, set a time you are supposed to call someone, take medicine, go somewhere, etc. I find it very handy. Tom From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:11 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches How do the braille watches do with getting wet? My thought is that once dried out everything should go back to working fine, but I do not know. Can you still buy the old wind up alarm clocks with Braille? I have not come across one, but I have not been searching for one either. It seems like such a practical thing to have. Jennifer - Original Message - From: jim To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches hi Jennifer i too love the talking watches but i do wood work and love to fish allot so i am killing them constantly. i got an old Braille watch from ebay and it has been working good for 2 years now. and i like it because it is quiet. but on the other hand the talking ones have the date and account down or up timer. as for your question on why they say the time is, well there made by sighted persons that think they are a novelty item and don't care how they really get used. Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches
Jennifr , before I retired I used to carry one of those flat pocket type talking watch's / clocks I kept it turned off except when I wanted t know the time. actually I would like to find a watch which would say Hi Lee it is now 12 noon time or somehing like that. Lee On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:52:25AM -0600, Jennifer Jackson wrote: My watch just bit the dust, and I need to replace it. I kind of like having a talking one at home for the convenience when it is just me, but really a braille one is more appropriate in public. What are your thoughts on the merits of both. I am not working in a shop the way many of you guys are, but I suspect we have a lot of the same needs. I also am thinking about just getting a cheap one as I do seem to go through them quickly. Also, does anyone know why it is necessary for talking watches to actually say the words the time is.. instead of just saying the time? How about a little ping on the hour instead of the whole beg sentence getting the rooms attention too. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Every man who is high up likes to think that he has done it all himself, and the wife smiles and lets it go at that. -- Barrie .
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Universal Verbalizer OMEGASAYS
rob and all, this looks like a fancy somewhat programmable talking meter. It is probably intended to be used with a variety of sensors, temperature, pressure etc. which produce electrical current or voltage outputs. Omega makes lots of such sensors. The page can't be displayed on my browser, so I'll contact them and find out more. If I know Omega, it will not be at all cheap. If any body else contacts them, for heavens sake do not under any circumstances mention blindness. They used to sell a good, if costly, talking meter but took it off the market because they were afraid of blind people suing them. We'll buy one here and give it a run for it's money and report. Thanks for bringing this to my attension, it may be very usefull when properly combined with the appropriate sensors. Tom Fowle Embedded Systems Developer/ Rehab engineer Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center The Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute 2318 Fillmore St. San Francisco, CA 94115 415-345-2123 (Voice) fo...@ski.org On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 04:25:48PM -0600, Rob Monitor wrote: HI, Would someone please explain just what this thing does.. Well I did look at the web. site but I'm still not to clear what it does.. Maybe it's just me from living up here in the frozen north just don't understand.. ROB FROM MINNESOTA- Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Universal Verbalizer OMEGASAYS® Could this be adapted to some tools? The new UV1000 OMEGASAYS® universal verbalizer is a handheld, process-signal to speech device that actually talks! It can can verbalize 0 to 10 Vdc, 0 to 20 mA, and Type K thermocouple inputs. Configure the verbalizer using the RS232 PC interface to specify the input range, engineering scale, engineering unit, and high and low alarm set-points. Select from over 100 engineering units while configuring the verbalizer. The front keypad allows the user to select different inputs, command talk, and adjust volume control. The UV1000 is a perfect solution for verbalizing any type of control signal where a local display may not be available. TRY THE INTERACTIVE DEMO BELOW! Specifications Voltage Input: 0 to 1 Vdc, 0 to 5 Vdc, 0 to 10 Vdc Current Input: 0 to 20 mA, 4 to 20 mA Analog Input Accuracy: 1% of full scale Thermocouple Input: Type K, SMP connection Thermocouple Range: -100 to 871°C (-148 to 1600°F) Thermocouple Input Accuracy: 2°C (3.6°F) Command/Continuous Talk: Set via slide switch High Low Alarm Set Points: Set via RS232 PC interface Engineering Scale: Set via RS232 PC interface Engineering Unit: Set via RS232 PC interface Volume Control: Set via keypad, 8 levels at 4 dB intervals Power: 2 AA size batteries, or AC adaptor (both included) Power Indication: Red LED Low Battery Indication: Red LED, flashing Speech Sampling Rate: 8 KHz Speaker: Built-in, 8 O Battery Life: 40 Hours: Continuous talking mode (alkaline battery) 160 Hours: Continuous talking mode (lithium battery) Operating Ambient Temperature: 0 to 50°C (32 to 122°F) Operating Relative Humidity: 0 to 95% RH (non-condensing) Dimensions: 120 L x 76 W x 32 mm D (4.75 x 3 x 1.25) Weight: 250 g (0.55 lbs) http://www.omega.com/ppt/pptsc.asp?ref=UV1000 Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Universal Verbalizer OMEGASAYS
Lenny, Sadly the digital tools usually don't allow external access to the changing voltages or currents this device can read. Unfortunately makers of digital tools have still not decided on a standardized way to bring data out of there tools for external display. This is one of the curses of inventors, they don't want to cooperate or do there homework. everyone wants to do there own thing there own way. Tom Fowle On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 06:11:53PM -0500, Lenny McHugh wrote: I tend to agree. I just wonder if it could be used to make some digital tools talk. - Original Message - From: Rob Monitor mre...@means.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Universal Verbalizer OMEGASAYS® HI, Would someone please explain just what this thing does.. Well I did look at the web. site but I'm still not to clear what it does.. Maybe it's just me from living up here in the frozen north just don't understand.. ROB FROM MINNESOTA- Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh lmch...@verizon.net To: handyman-blind blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Universal Verbalizer OMEGASAYS® Could this be adapted to some tools? The new UV1000 OMEGASAYS® universal verbalizer is a handheld, process-signal to speech device that actually talks! It can can verbalize 0 to 10 Vdc, 0 to 20 mA, and Type K thermocouple inputs. Configure the verbalizer using the RS232 PC interface to specify the input range, engineering scale, engineering unit, and high and low alarm set-points. Select from over 100 engineering units while configuring the verbalizer. The front keypad allows the user to select different inputs, command talk, and adjust volume control. The UV1000 is a perfect solution for verbalizing any type of control signal where a local display may not be available. TRY THE INTERACTIVE DEMO BELOW! Specifications Voltage Input: 0 to 1 Vdc, 0 to 5 Vdc, 0 to 10 Vdc Current Input: 0 to 20 mA, 4 to 20 mA Analog Input Accuracy: 1% of full scale Thermocouple Input: Type K, SMP connection Thermocouple Range: -100 to 871°C (-148 to 1600°F) Thermocouple Input Accuracy: 2°C (3.6°F) Command/Continuous Talk: Set via slide switch High Low Alarm Set Points: Set via RS232 PC interface Engineering Scale: Set via RS232 PC interface Engineering Unit: Set via RS232 PC interface Volume Control: Set via keypad, 8 levels at 4 dB intervals Power: 2 AA size batteries, or AC adaptor (both included) Power Indication: Red LED Low Battery Indication: Red LED, flashing Speech Sampling Rate: 8 KHz Speaker: Built-in, 8 O Battery Life: 40 Hours: Continuous talking mode (alkaline battery) 160 Hours: Continuous talking mode (lithium battery) Operating Ambient Temperature: 0 to 50°C (32 to 122°F) Operating Relative Humidity: 0 to 95% RH (non-condensing) Dimensions: 120 L x 76 W x 32 mm D (4.75 x 3 x 1.25) Weight: 250 g (0.55 lbs) http://www.omega.com/ppt/pptsc.asp?ref=UV1000 Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address
Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches
Jennifer, I've worn braille watches while sailing and got them briefly splashed, they survived O.K. but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm pretty sure that actual emersion would be fatal. It's just not possible to properly seal the lid. tom Fowle On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:10:35AM -0600, Jennifer Jackson wrote: How do the braille watches do with getting wet? My thought is that once dried out everything should go back to working fine, but I do not know. Can you still buy the old wind up alarm clocks with Braille? I have not come across one, but I have not been searching for one either. It seems like such a practical thing to have. Jennifer - Original Message - From: jim To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches hi Jennifer i too love the talking watches but i do wood work and love to fish allot so i am killing them constantly. i got an old Braille watch from ebay and it has been working good for 2 years now. and i like it because it is quiet. but on the other hand the talking ones have the date and account down or up timer. as for your question on why they say the time is, well there made by sighted persons that think they are a novelty item and don't care how they really get used. Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling
Hi folks I have a bedroom in the basement that has no windows, and one wall has mold on it. This is a daylight basement, but the room is opposite the windows. The wall is wood ppaneling. Any ideas on how to remove the mold without damaging the wall? What can be done to keelp mold from returning? We do have a dehumidifier set to 60% humidity. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] A plane by any other name.
Hello Dan, I have a number of hand planes. My shortest is about 4 inches long and it used to smooth ruff spots on lumber. There are a lot that were used to make moldings in years gone by and it is an art. My largest is about 30 inches long and also is designed to smooth lumber, but now we are talking full boards that were ruff cut and could be used to size thickness of lumber as power planners of today are used. I have a couple that I have and use instead of sand paper. Putting boards together from lowes or anywhere else really vary in size sometimes, planes can be used to level them out after a project is put together and can be made to look professional, at least in my eyes, for what it is worth. ha ha ha ..bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling
Hello John, You could wash it off with soapy water with bleach added. You would have to let it dry out if you get it too wet. Since you have your rh set at 60 percent it would take time. Is there any special reason you have the humidity set so high. bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling
John, Try this web site out. It is the EPA (National Environmental Health). Lots of information on there about remediation. I haven't read all the details on this site, but I think that if you go to the Commercial / Schools Site and get into the brochure there, it will give you some guidence and also the residential mold site as well. Might take a little bit of time and some manuvering, but there is good basic information there.. Cleaning the mold up is the easy part. The tricky part is figuring out where the water intrusion is coming from. Is it a leak? Is it a moisture problem from the basement wall? Is it a cold space where the cold will cause the humidity to condence on a smooth hard surface such as the finished paneling? They say, and I believe it, that 95% of all mold and mildew problems come from water intrusion Correct the water or moisture problem and clean up the mold / mildew and it shouldn't come back. Actually, something as simple as turning the heat and air off for an extended period of time and the chronic intrusion of the outside humidity can be a problem. For instance, the schools used to turn their HVAC off in classrooms only to have to come in before school opening and clean up the green powder off of all surfaces! It's not like we can completely get rid of the mold and mildew permanently. It's like insects or rats, you know. We have to exist with it and we always will have it. BUT, if we can control it by not giving it all the things it needs to grow and reproduce, then we have it made! http://www.epa.gov/mold/cleanupguidelines.html Best, Max --- On Thu, 12/10/09, John Sherrer j...@whitecane.org wrote: From: John Sherrer j...@whitecane.org Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 3:17 PM Hi folks I have a bedroom in the basement that has no windows, and one wall has mold on it. This is a daylight basement, but the room is opposite the windows. The wall is wood ppaneling. Any ideas on how to remove the mold without damaging the wall? What can be done to keelp mold from returning? We do have a dehumidifier set to 60% humidity. John http://WhiteCane. org http://BlindWoodWor ker.com http://HolyTeaClub. comcom\whitecane http://anellos. ws [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] hanging a quilt
Thanks guys for your thoughts on the watches. Now my next question. I am going to hang a quilt on my wall. The quilt is attractive, but the primary purpose is the noise reduction. This is being done on the advice of my son's therapist because of his cochlear implants. So I do not want to just hang a traditional quilt rack. I want to cover as much wall space with fabric as possible. What is going to be the best way that does not involve a bunch of little nails or thumb tacks. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] hanging a quilt
Aloha Jen, I have a large quilt on my wall and didn't want to put any holes in it. I used some small curtain rod hooks on the wall. Then I sewed a pocket on the top edge of the back of the quilt that was the length of the quilt and just big enough to slide a wooden rod through it. In hawaii, we generally use wooden rods so that we don't have to worry about rust over the long-run. I have seen people put a second pocket on the back of the bottom edge that they don't attach to the wall, but do put another rod in it to hold it down. Many quilts come made with the kind of pockets I'm describing. Hope this gives you some ideas, Betsy At 11:55 AM 12/10/2009, you wrote: Thanks guys for your thoughts on the watches. Now my next question. I am going to hang a quilt on my wall. The quilt is attractive, but the primary purpose is the noise reduction. This is being done on the advice of my son's therapist because of his cochlear implants. So I do not want to just hang a traditional quilt rack. I want to cover as much wall space with fabric as possible. What is going to be the best way that does not involve a bunch of little nails or thumb tacks. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches
I have immersed braille watches from time-to-time, opened the lids and turned them down side up to drain and you often do get away with it but not always. I suppose a lot depends on what the water brings in with it, sand, dirt, fishes, crabs. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches Jennifer, I've worn braille watches while sailing and got them briefly splashed, they survived O.K. but I wouldn't bet on it. I'm pretty sure that actual emersion would be fatal. It's just not possible to properly seal the lid. tom Fowle On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:10:35AM -0600, Jennifer Jackson wrote: How do the braille watches do with getting wet? My thought is that once dried out everything should go back to working fine, but I do not know. Can you still buy the old wind up alarm clocks with Braille? I have not come across one, but I have not been searching for one either. It seems like such a practical thing to have. Jennifer - Original Message - From: jim To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] watches hi Jennifer i too love the talking watches but i do wood work and love to fish allot so i am killing them constantly. i got an old Braille watch from ebay and it has been working good for 2 years now. and i like it because it is quiet. but on the other hand the talking ones have the date and account down or up timer. as for your question on why they say the time is, well there made by sighted persons that think they are a novelty item and don't care how they really get used. Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] How to Hang a Wall Hanging
Step 1 -- Choose a location We find it is best to choose a location; * Brightly lit, but not in direct sunlight * On a wall that contrasts in shade and/or color with the wallhanging * Where the wall hanging can be seen from a distance and up close * Away from heat or air conditioning ducts Some suggestions: * On a foyer wall * On a wall near your dining or kitchen table * On the wall behind a sofa * On the wall above a bed's header board Step 2 -- Choose hanging treatment Rectangular wall hangings can be hung using decorative rods (where the rod is intended to be seen), or hung so that only the wallhanging is seen. The choice is personal and is certainly influenced by the style of your home's decor. Most non-rectangular wall hangings (such as double wedding rings) cannot be hung with rods. Specialty quilt hangers can be used for hanging wall hanging size quilts, but while these devices are good for hanging large quilts, they are not needed to hang small quilts. They tend to hide the top couple of inches of the quilt they are holding, which isn't a problem with a bed quilt, but can be witha smaller quilt. They are also much more expensive than using a rod. Step 3a - Hanging with a rod Hanging rods can be purchased at any store that sells drapery hardware (building supply stores, department stores, drapery shops).Ask for cafe rods. Adjustable length metal rods with various finishes are available and range in price from less than $10 to as much as $30. Wooden drapery poles can also be used, which are available in a variety of finishes with decorative finials (the fancy end-pieces). These finished rods come with mounting hardware. If you are so inclined, you may wish to make and finish your own rod by purchasing a dowel rod (about1/2 inch diameter) and finials. Many of our wall hangings include sleeves or tabs for hanging rods. You, of course, may add your own tabs to a wall hanging, if you are not comfortable with sewing you can add tabs made from fabric ribbons (one inch wide andthree inches long) attached to the back of the wall hanging with safety pins as shown below. how to use a safety pin and ribbon Step 3b - Hanging without a rod Believe it or not, the Amish solution is Velcro! Velcro is available at most fabric stores and hardware stores. Velcro self-adhesive Velcro tabs (or strips) can be attached to the top back edge of your wall hanging (with the adhesive, or hand sew, or if you prefer with straightpins). velcro The corresponding Velcro tabs can be directly attached to the wall. Alternatively, for a rectangular wall hanging, the tabs can be attached to a wooden strip and the wooden strip hung on the wall with a nail. The strip should be approximately2 inches wide, 1/2 inch thick, and long enough to reach across the back of your wall hanging and long enough to reach across the back of your wall hanging. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling
Bob The humidifier is set to 60% since that is the default on the humidifier. I thought that it was low enough, but maybe it was not. Another consideration is that the humidifier is not large enough. If I can remove the mold, winter will bring low humidity and maybe I can prevent the mold from coming back. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: chiliblindman To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling Hello John, You could wash it off with soapy water with bleach added. You would have to let it dry out if you get it too wet. Since you have your rh set at 60 percent it would take time. Is there any special reason you have the humidity set so high. bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling
Max Thanks for the web site. The paneling is over a block wall. This is our mountain house, and it was vacant a lot this year, since I was at a couple of blind centers and at the guide dog school. Also our air conditioning died this spring, so the dehumidifying feature of air conditioning was not present. Just got it fixed a month ago. John http://WhiteCane.org http://BlindWoodWorker.com http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane http://anellos.ws - Original Message - From: vetsline To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling John, Try this web site out. It is the EPA (National Environmental Health). Lots of information on there about remediation. I haven't read all the details on this site, but I think that if you go to the Commercial / Schools Site and get into the brochure there, it will give you some guidence and also the residential mold site as well. Might take a little bit of time and some manuvering, but there is good basic information there.. Cleaning the mold up is the easy part. The tricky part is figuring out where the water intrusion is coming from. Is it a leak? Is it a moisture problem from the basement wall? Is it a cold space where the cold will cause the humidity to condence on a smooth hard surface such as the finished paneling? They say, and I believe it, that 95% of all mold and mildew problems come from water intrusion Correct the water or moisture problem and clean up the mold / mildew and it shouldn't come back. Actually, something as simple as turning the heat and air off for an extended period of time and the chronic intrusion of the outside humidity can be a problem. For instance, the schools used to turn their HVAC off in classrooms only to have to come in before school opening and clean up the green powder off of all surfaces! It's not like we can completely get rid of the mold and mildew permanently. It's like insects or rats, you know. We have to exist with it and we always will have it. BUT, if we can control it by not giving it all the things it needs to grow and reproduce, then we have it made! http://www.epa.gov/mold/cleanupguidelines.html Best, Max --- On Thu, 12/10/09, John Sherrer j...@whitecane.org wrote: From: John Sherrer j...@whitecane.org Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mold on Wood Paneling To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 3:17 PM Hi folks I have a bedroom in the basement that has no windows, and one wall has mold on it. This is a daylight basement, but the room is opposite the windows. The wall is wood ppaneling. Any ideas on how to remove the mold without damaging the wall? What can be done to keelp mold from returning? We do have a dehumidifier set to 60% humidity. John http://WhiteCane. org http://BlindWoodWor ker.com http://HolyTeaClub. comcom\whitecane http://anellos. ws [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]