[BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

2010-04-10 Thread Agent086b
  Hi all,
well have just purchased my first router and router table so will have 
many questions.
For a start.
If I wish to make a plunge cut, with say a 12 mm diameter bit. what is 
the maximum depth I should go for a first pass?
I am not sure if this is explaining myself correctly, so I will wait for 
the responses and modify the question if necessary.
Thanks as always for the great help.
Max.




Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Kennedy
If you are just making a round hole, go as deep as you want.  

If you are making a mortise type cut that means you have to move the wood over 
the bit, you can make the end cuts as deep as they need to end up. Then come 
back and cut no more than an eighth, of an inch, 5 millimeters over there.  


  - Original Message - 
  From: Agent086b 
  To: Handyman 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:05 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut



  Hi all,
  well have just purchased my first router and router table so will have 
  many questions.
  For a start.
  If I wish to make a plunge cut, with say a 12 mm diameter bit. what is 
  the maximum depth I should go for a first pass?
  I am not sure if this is explaining myself correctly, so I will wait for 
  the responses and modify the question if necessary.
  Thanks as always for the great help.
  Max.



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] The gathering.

2010-04-10 Thread Phil Parr
Mostly blind but not all, Phil. 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

2010-04-10 Thread Dale Leavens
While you won't go far wrong with a shallow 8th inch depth of cut this is 
dependent on a few variables.

The power of the router. I have a big old triton which will drive an inch 
diameter bit through an 8th inch cut in the hardest wood without noticing it.

The size of the bit of course. The cross sectional area increases following the 
inverse square law so, a half inch bit has four times the cross sectional area 
of a quarter inch bit and a 1 inch bit is 16 times the cross sectional area of 
a quarter inch bit. Similarly, as the outer diameter increases so the distance 
or the amount of cutting surface which passes a particular point increases.A 
one inch bit has nearly three inches of distance around the outside, at 30 
thousand revolutions per minute that is 90 thousand inches a minute or about 24 
inches a second compared with a quarter inch bit which will present more like 6 
inches a second.This has not only resistance implications but heat generations 
and other concerns.

Then there is the shaft size. A half inch shaft will take a lot more load than 
a quarter inch shaft, remember here the inverse square law.

I am unaware of any safety recommendations for depth of bit cut probably 
because of these variables and probably several others I haven't thought of. 

Use load as your guide. You can probably make quarter inch depth passes or even 
a little more but judge your speed and depth by how the motor pulls 
down.Generally the bigger the bit the slower your speed both of progress and 
RPM should be if you have the luxury of variable speed.

I find it helpful to blow out the cut between adjustments, be a little careful 
though, sometimes those cuttings are smoking. They can pack nearly as tight as 
the wood you are cutting and it all adds resistance to the second and 
subsequent passes.
Hope this is helpful.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut



  If you are just making a round hole, go as deep as you want. 

  If you are making a mortise type cut that means you have to move the wood 
over the bit, you can make the end cuts as deep as they need to end up. Then 
come back and cut no more than an eighth, of an inch, 5 millimeters over there. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Agent086b 
  To: Handyman 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:05 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

  Hi all,
  well have just purchased my first router and router table so will have 
  many questions.
  For a start.
  If I wish to make a plunge cut, with say a 12 mm diameter bit. what is 
  the maximum depth I should go for a first pass?
  I am not sure if this is explaining myself correctly, so I will wait for 
  the responses and modify the question if necessary.
  Thanks as always for the great help.
  Max.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

2010-04-10 Thread Tom Hodges
Two things.  A friend bought a security system from Home Depot but that was
about four years ago and I don't know if they carry them any more.  It had a
motion sensing camera and a VCR recorder.  When someone went in front of the
camera it automatically turned on the recorder and ran for about a minute,
but if there was continuing movement, it would keep running.

 

Secondly, no matter what type of motion sensor you use, there is always the
problem outside of having the wind blowing tree branches or shrubs, etc. and
setting it off.  If this happens often, you start to ignore it.  Once you
start ignoring it because you think it is a tree branch, you might as well
not even have one.

 

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Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:35 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

 

  

Hello Betsy, I thought of putting one of those alarms that have a pull pin 
but decided against it. Once I'm in bed, I wouldn't want to get up and turn 
it off. With a 300 watt light being turned on by a motion detector or heat 
sensor and lighting that area like it was day time I think it would scare 
the hell out of a thief. It would also be nice to get the person on camera.
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From: Betsy Whitney braill...@hawaii.rr.com
mailto:brailleit%40hawaii.rr.com 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

Aloha Brice,
How about putting some sort of an alarm on it so
if the can is moved it will squeal. Now that
aluminum cans are worth money, I suspect that
people wander around looking for them.
Betsy
At 01:30 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:


Can you believe this. We move into a senior citizen mobile home park in
December. I had a regular trash can that I saved our aluminum cans that I
always smash. Well last week, I went outside to dump some and couldn't
fine the trash can. Some lousy sum bitch stole the trash can and all. Now I
need some ideas. I want something like a motion detector that will not only
light up the area, but also start a cam recorder or the likes. It had to be
someone from outside the park that did this as I found out others had there
cans stolen.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cooking In The Dark List

2010-04-10 Thread Steve Stewart
send a blank email to
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and in the subject line, put subscribe. 
Steve Stewart
C n D moderator


From: Edward Przybylek 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:49 PM
To: BlindHandyMan 
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cooking In The Dark List


  
Hi all,

I've seen the Cooking In The Dark list mentioned here a few times. Does
anyone know the address used to subscribe to the list? Yeah, that's right.
I do get my hands dirty in the kitchen once in a while. Thanks.

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

2010-04-10 Thread Brice Mijares
Well there will be no way a tree branch would set it off.  My mobile home 
has a covered car port that goes the length of the mobile home it's self. 
plus I have a tough shed at the end of the car port that's half under the 
awning.  This is where I'd like to set up some kind of security system. 
This way I'd get full security of the car, the patio and anyone trying to 
get into my shed.
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From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:58 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector


 Two things.  A friend bought a security system from Home Depot but that 
 was
 about four years ago and I don't know if they carry them any more.  It had 
 a
 motion sensing camera and a VCR recorder.  When someone went in front of 
 the
 camera it automatically turned on the recorder and ran for about a minute,
 but if there was continuing movement, it would keep running.



 Secondly, no matter what type of motion sensor you use, there is always 
 the
 problem outside of having the wind blowing tree branches or shrubs, etc. 
 and
 setting it off.  If this happens often, you start to ignore it.  Once you
 start ignoring it because you think it is a tree branch, you might as well
 not even have one.



 From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
 Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:35 PM
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector





 Hello Betsy, I thought of putting one of those alarms that have a pull pin
 but decided against it. Once I'm in bed, I wouldn't want to get up and 
 turn
 it off. With a 300 watt light being turned on by a motion detector or heat
 sensor and lighting that area like it was day time I think it would scare
 the hell out of a thief. It would also be nice to get the person on 
 camera.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Betsy Whitney braill...@hawaii.rr.com
 mailto:brailleit%40hawaii.rr.com 
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

 Aloha Brice,
 How about putting some sort of an alarm on it so
 if the can is moved it will squeal. Now that
 aluminum cans are worth money, I suspect that
 people wander around looking for them.
 Betsy
 At 01:30 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:


Can you believe this. We move into a senior citizen mobile home park in
December. I had a regular trash can that I saved our aluminum cans that I
always smash. Well last week, I went outside to dump some and couldn't
fine the trash can. Some lousy sum bitch stole the trash can and all. Now 
I
need some ideas. I want something like a motion detector that will not 
only
light up the area, but also start a cam recorder or the likes. It had to 
be
someone from outside the park that did this as I found out others had 
there
cans stolen.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

2010-04-10 Thread John Sherrer
Is this Snake Wood?

John
http://WhiteCane.org
http://BlindWoodWorker.com
http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane
http://anellos.ws

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw



  When I was clearing fallen trees after hurricane Hugo, a copperhead had 
climbed up on one of the big logs. 

  Being scared of snakes, I didn't want him running off and showing up later. 

  My son had told me where he was and I held the saw near him. When I revved up 
the engine, and the chain started flying around the bar, he struck at the 
chain. The last mistake he'd ever make, as it were. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Sherrer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  A friend of mine cut a tree and found a copper head in the hollow. He new 
that the tree was hollow, but he was not aware of the free gift. He trew the 
body of the chain saw on the snake and then got his shot gun.

  John
  http://WhiteCane.org
  http://BlindWoodWorker.com
  http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane
  http://anellos.ws

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Franklin 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  The most interesting experience that I have had with a chain saw so far was 
when I cut through a wasp nest in the middle of a log that I was cutting up for 
fire wood. Needless to say I dropped the saw and didn't even stop to turn it 
off before I departed the area with about a hundred pist off bees in hot 
persute.

  Paul Franklin

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Sherrer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  The only time I got hurt with the chain saw is tripping of a log that I had 
cut. I kept the saw away from me wwhen I fell.

  John
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  http://BlindWoodWorker.com
  http://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane
  http://anellos.ws

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim King 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:12 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  The chain should not be moving when the engine is idling. Do not try to
  touch the bar or chain when the saw is at idle. There is much more to learn
  than just how to operate the saw. I did plenty of logging in my college
  days. The first thing to remember is not to be afraid of the saw. You need
  to respect it but don't be afraid of it. More injuries and property damage
  are caused by falling trees, limbs parts of logs etc that have just been cut
  than from the saw itself.

  Jim King

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of john schwery
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:28 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  How fast is the chain moving when a saw is idling?

  earlier, John Sherrer, wrote:
  
  
  Some tips I have are:
  1. Keep your blade sharp, since a dull blade may kick back.
  
  2.I have found that if I lock my right elbow, which holds the handle of the
  chain saw, a kick back will not come near me, but will tend to go up.
  
  3. Keep any helpers or other on lookers at least 10 feet away from you. You
  do not want them to get into your way.
  
  4. Drag your feet to keep from tripping with your saw idling or turned off.
  
  5. Do not be in a hurry. Think out every little task before you start to
  cut, and look for possibilities where something can go wrong and you
  getting
  hurt, take corrective action and continue.
  
  Many people use chain saws every day and do not get hurt.
  
  John
  http://WhiteCane.orghttp://WhiteCane.org
  http://BlindWoodWorker.com
  http://HolyTeaClub.comcomhttp://HolyTeaClub.comcom\whitecane
  http://anellos.wshttp://anellos.ws
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Howell mailto:s.howell%40verizon.nets.how...@verizon.net
  mailto:s.howell%40verizon.net 
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw
  
You know all this talk of chainsaws makes me wonder what is the best way
to use one. I realize what makes them dangerous is the fact there is
  this
chain that is buzzing along at a pretty good clip and something could
cause it to snap at you. The problem is the bite is quite bad from what
  I
hear. I imagine using the tip of the bar to cut is not a good idea as
  the
saw could flip up or down and take off your nose or leg. grin However,
being serious, I assume to prevent as many potential kickback
  situations,
it is best to place the saw so whatever your cutting is as close to the

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

2010-04-10 Thread Agent086b

Hi,
well there is a lot to comprehend in this info. I have a big new Triton 
router and will be using a 12 mm shafted bit,. I think that is about 
half inch.
I can put a quarter inch Colet in for smaller bits. I do have variable 
speed settings. Are you saying the smaller the bit the faster the speed 
setting? Sorry if I am a bit thick.
Thanks again for all the answers so far.
Max.
On 10/04/2010 22:41, Dale Leavens wrote:
 While you won't go far wrong with a shallow 8th inch depth of cut this is 
 dependent on a few variables.

 The power of the router. I have a big old triton which will drive an inch 
 diameter bit through an 8th inch cut in the hardest wood without noticing it.

 The size of the bit of course. The cross sectional area increases following 
 the inverse square law so, a half inch bit has four times the cross sectional 
 area of a quarter inch bit and a 1 inch bit is 16 times the cross sectional 
 area of a quarter inch bit. Similarly, as the outer diameter increases so the 
 distance or the amount of cutting surface which passes a particular point 
 increases.A one inch bit has nearly three inches of distance around the 
 outside, at 30 thousand revolutions per minute that is 90 thousand inches a 
 minute or about 24 inches a second compared with a quarter inch bit which 
 will present more like 6 inches a second.This has not only resistance 
 implications but heat generations and other concerns.

 Then there is the shaft size. A half inch shaft will take a lot more load 
 than a quarter inch shaft, remember here the inverse square law.

 I am unaware of any safety recommendations for depth of bit cut probably 
 because of these variables and probably several others I haven't thought of.

 Use load as your guide. You can probably make quarter inch depth passes or 
 even a little more but judge your speed and depth by how the motor pulls 
 down.Generally the bigger the bit the slower your speed both of progress and 
 RPM should be if you have the luxury of variable speed.

 I find it helpful to blow out the cut between adjustments, be a little 
 careful though, sometimes those cuttings are smoking. They can pack nearly as 
 tight as the wood you are cutting and it all adds resistance to the second 
 and subsequent passes.
 Hope this is helpful.


 If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
- Original Message -
From: Bob Kennedy
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut



If you are just making a round hole, go as deep as you want.

If you are making a mortise type cut that means you have to move the wood 
 over the bit, you can make the end cuts as deep as they need to end up. Then 
 come back and cut no more than an eighth, of an inch, 5 millimeters over 
 there.

- Original Message -
From: Agent086b
To: Handyman
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

Hi all,
well have just purchased my first router and router table so will have
many questions.
For a start.
If I wish to make a plunge cut, with say a 12 mm diameter bit. what is
the maximum depth I should go for a first pass?
I am not sure if this is explaining myself correctly, so I will wait for
the responses and modify the question if necessary.
Thanks as always for the great help.
Max.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

2010-04-10 Thread Dale Leavens
Slow down with big bits. Big shaft you can increase speed. Mostly though just 
listen and smell. Smoke indicates burning. this can be high speed slow progress 
where the cutter ends up spinning in the same place a long time creating 
burning heat. If this is because you can't push the router through then reduce 
the depth.

Mostly I take pretty deep cuts because I am lazy and usually get away with it. 
If your router is like mine you can set three depths with the turret. This may 
not be quite enough for really deep mortises but for most grooves and dados I 
am in 3/4ths plywood and going about half depth so I make the cut in one pass, 
about 3/8ths deep. No doubt this is a bit aggressive for some people but a 
3/4ths cutter on a half inch shaft with a 3 and a quarter horsepower router 
that weighs about fifteen pounds won't mind that a all. If it is struggling 
then just slow it down a little.

If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Agent086b 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut




  Hi,
  well there is a lot to comprehend in this info. I have a big new Triton 
  router and will be using a 12 mm shafted bit,. I think that is about 
  half inch.
  I can put a quarter inch Colet in for smaller bits. I do have variable 
  speed settings. Are you saying the smaller the bit the faster the speed 
  setting? Sorry if I am a bit thick.
  Thanks again for all the answers so far.
  Max.
  On 10/04/2010 22:41, Dale Leavens wrote:
   While you won't go far wrong with a shallow 8th inch depth of cut this is 
dependent on a few variables.
  
   The power of the router. I have a big old triton which will drive an inch 
diameter bit through an 8th inch cut in the hardest wood without noticing it.
  
   The size of the bit of course. The cross sectional area increases following 
the inverse square law so, a half inch bit has four times the cross sectional 
area of a quarter inch bit and a 1 inch bit is 16 times the cross sectional 
area of a quarter inch bit. Similarly, as the outer diameter increases so the 
distance or the amount of cutting surface which passes a particular point 
increases.A one inch bit has nearly three inches of distance around the 
outside, at 30 thousand revolutions per minute that is 90 thousand inches a 
minute or about 24 inches a second compared with a quarter inch bit which will 
present more like 6 inches a second.This has not only resistance implications 
but heat generations and other concerns.
  
   Then there is the shaft size. A half inch shaft will take a lot more load 
than a quarter inch shaft, remember here the inverse square law.
  
   I am unaware of any safety recommendations for depth of bit cut probably 
because of these variables and probably several others I haven't thought of.
  
   Use load as your guide. You can probably make quarter inch depth passes or 
even a little more but judge your speed and depth by how the motor pulls 
down.Generally the bigger the bit the slower your speed both of progress and 
RPM should be if you have the luxury of variable speed.
  
   I find it helpful to blow out the cut between adjustments, be a little 
careful though, sometimes those cuttings are smoking. They can pack nearly as 
tight as the wood you are cutting and it all adds resistance to the second and 
subsequent passes.
   Hope this is helpful.
  
  
   If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
   - Original Message -
   From: Bob Kennedy
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:06 AM
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut
  
  
  
   If you are just making a round hole, go as deep as you want.
  
   If you are making a mortise type cut that means you have to move the wood 
over the bit, you can make the end cuts as deep as they need to end up. Then 
come back and cut no more than an eighth, of an inch, 5 millimeters over there.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Agent086b
   To: Handyman
   Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:05 AM
   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut
  
   Hi all,
   well have just purchased my first router and router table so will have
   many questions.
   For a start.
   If I wish to make a plunge cut, with say a 12 mm diameter bit. what is
   the maximum depth I should go for a first pass?
   I am not sure if this is explaining myself correctly, so I will wait for
   the responses and modify the question if necessary.
   Thanks as always for the great help.
   Max.
  
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

2010-04-10 Thread Agent086b
Hi,
now I think it is clear.
My router is exactly the same wait and horsepower so I will try the same 
as you suggest.
Thanks again.
Max.

On 11/04/2010 08:35, Dale Leavens wrote:
 Slow down with big bits. Big shaft you can increase speed. Mostly though just 
 listen and smell. Smoke indicates burning. this can be high speed slow 
 progress where the cutter ends up spinning in the same place a long time 
 creating burning heat. If this is because you can't push the router through 
 then reduce the depth.

 Mostly I take pretty deep cuts because I am lazy and usually get away with 
 it. If your router is like mine you can set three depths with the turret. 
 This may not be quite enough for really deep mortises but for most grooves 
 and dados I am in 3/4ths plywood and going about half depth so I make the cut 
 in one pass, about 3/8ths deep. No doubt this is a bit aggressive for some 
 people but a 3/4ths cutter on a half inch shaft with a 3 and a quarter 
 horsepower router that weighs about fifteen pounds won't mind that a all. If 
 it is struggling then just slow it down a little.

 If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
- Original Message -
From: Agent086b
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut




Hi,
well there is a lot to comprehend in this info. I have a big new Triton
router and will be using a 12 mm shafted bit,. I think that is about
half inch.
I can put a quarter inch Colet in for smaller bits. I do have variable
speed settings. Are you saying the smaller the bit the faster the speed
setting? Sorry if I am a bit thick.
Thanks again for all the answers so far.
Max.
On 10/04/2010 22:41, Dale Leavens wrote:
  While you won't go far wrong with a shallow 8th inch depth of cut this 
 is dependent on a few variables.

  The power of the router. I have a big old triton which will drive an 
 inch diameter bit through an 8th inch cut in the hardest wood without 
 noticing it.

  The size of the bit of course. The cross sectional area increases 
 following the inverse square law so, a half inch bit has four times the cross 
 sectional area of a quarter inch bit and a 1 inch bit is 16 times the cross 
 sectional area of a quarter inch bit. Similarly, as the outer diameter 
 increases so the distance or the amount of cutting surface which passes a 
 particular point increases.A one inch bit has nearly three inches of distance 
 around the outside, at 30 thousand revolutions per minute that is 90 thousand 
 inches a minute or about 24 inches a second compared with a quarter inch bit 
 which will present more like 6 inches a second.This has not only resistance 
 implications but heat generations and other concerns.

  Then there is the shaft size. A half inch shaft will take a lot more 
 load than a quarter inch shaft, remember here the inverse square law.

  I am unaware of any safety recommendations for depth of bit cut 
 probably because of these variables and probably several others I haven't 
 thought of.

  Use load as your guide. You can probably make quarter inch depth passes 
 or even a little more but judge your speed and depth by how the motor pulls 
 down.Generally the bigger the bit the slower your speed both of progress and 
 RPM should be if you have the luxury of variable speed.

  I find it helpful to blow out the cut between adjustments, be a little 
 careful though, sometimes those cuttings are smoking. They can pack nearly as 
 tight as the wood you are cutting and it all adds resistance to the second 
 and subsequent passes.
  Hope this is helpful.


  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message -
  From: Bob Kennedy
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut



  If you are just making a round hole, go as deep as you want.

  If you are making a mortise type cut that means you have to move the 
 wood over the bit, you can make the end cuts as deep as they need to end up. 
 Then come back and cut no more than an eighth, of an inch, 5 millimeters over 
 there.

  - Original Message -
  From: Agent086b
  To: Handyman
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:05 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Cutting depth per cut

  Hi all,
  well have just purchased my first router and router table so will have
  many questions.
  For a start.
  If I wish to make a plunge cut, with say a 12 mm diameter bit. what is
  the maximum depth I should go for a first pass?
  I am not sure if this is explaining myself correctly, so I will wait for
  the responses and modify the question if necessary.
  Thanks as always for the great help.
  Max.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Kennedy
No just very dead.
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Sherrer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw



  Is this Snake Wood?

  John
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  When I was clearing fallen trees after hurricane Hugo, a copperhead had 
climbed up on one of the big logs. 

  Being scared of snakes, I didn't want him running off and showing up later. 

  My son had told me where he was and I held the saw near him. When I revved up 
the engine, and the chain started flying around the bar, he struck at the 
chain. The last mistake he'd ever make, as it were. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Sherrer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  A friend of mine cut a tree and found a copper head in the hollow. He new 
that the tree was hollow, but he was not aware of the free gift. He trew the 
body of the chain saw on the snake and then got his shot gun.

  John
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Franklin 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  The most interesting experience that I have had with a chain saw so far was 
when I cut through a wasp nest in the middle of a log that I was cutting up for 
fire wood. Needless to say I dropped the saw and didn't even stop to turn it 
off before I departed the area with about a hundred pist off bees in hot 
persute.

  Paul Franklin

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Sherrer 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  The only time I got hurt with the chain saw is tripping of a log that I had 
cut. I kept the saw away from me wwhen I fell.

  John
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  http://BlindWoodWorker.com
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  http://anellos.ws

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim King 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:12 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  The chain should not be moving when the engine is idling. Do not try to
  touch the bar or chain when the saw is at idle. There is much more to learn
  than just how to operate the saw. I did plenty of logging in my college
  days. The first thing to remember is not to be afraid of the saw. You need
  to respect it but don't be afraid of it. More injuries and property damage
  are caused by falling trees, limbs parts of logs etc that have just been cut
  than from the saw itself.

  Jim King

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of john schwery
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:28 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw

  How fast is the chain moving when a saw is idling?

  earlier, John Sherrer, wrote:
  
  
  Some tips I have are:
  1. Keep your blade sharp, since a dull blade may kick back.
  
  2.I have found that if I lock my right elbow, which holds the handle of the
  chain saw, a kick back will not come near me, but will tend to go up.
  
  3. Keep any helpers or other on lookers at least 10 feet away from you. You
  do not want them to get into your way.
  
  4. Drag your feet to keep from tripping with your saw idling or turned off.
  
  5. Do not be in a hurry. Think out every little task before you start to
  cut, and look for possibilities where something can go wrong and you
  getting
  hurt, take corrective action and continue.
  
  Many people use chain saws every day and do not get hurt.
  
  John
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  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Howell mailto:s.howell%40verizon.nets.how...@verizon.net
  mailto:s.howell%40verizon.net 
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] chain saw
  
You know all this talk of chainsaws makes me wonder what is the best way
to use one. I realize what makes them dangerous is the fact there is
  this
chain that is buzzing along at a pretty good clip and something could
cause it to snap at you. The problem is the bite is quite bad from what
  I
hear. I imagine using the tip of the bar to cut is not a good idea as
  the
saw could flip up or down 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dan or others,

2010-04-10 Thread Spiro
entirelyagree.
I've done the baking soda over night, letting it drip dry.
It's definitely that metal smell, and nothing is coming off of the lid 
gasket as far as scent.
So I'm on it.
alka seltzer tonight if not finished, no vinegar in the house after 
daughter did her easter eggs.
Thanks again.
I knew you folks would know.
What better tool is there than the industrial thermos. Coffee is also 
known as happy give a s.




On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Dale Leavens wrote:

 Sometimes the smells seem to get stuck to the rubber seals or the stopper and 
 not so much the stainless steel. The other trouble is truly scrubbing them 
 out. One should probably use a bottle brush and then there is the problem of 
 rinsing out the smell of dish washing detergent.

 I have one I sometimes use when I am outside all day working. I find the best 
 way to keep it fresh smelling is to empty it fully and rinse it a couple of 
 times then storing it empty with the lid off open to the air so it dries 
 thoroughly over night or what ever.

 Of course a glass vacuum flask is the best but the liners tend to be fragile. 
 I broke many back when I used one going to school, a smack on a fence post or 
 fire plug on the way by and off to the store for a replacement liner.


 If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message -
  From: Spiro
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 8:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Dan or others,



  Well, thanks. I'm hoping it goes down to the metal taste of the stainless.
  but what's the sense of having a 24oz thermos if you can't put exotic
  coffee made from filtered water in it? grins

  On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Trouble wrote:

   Put some baking soda in it along with some warm
   water. Let it set for a few days and repeat. That should get it all out.
   I use that trick after leaving tea in after a
   fishing trip or when I let my brother use it for work and his coffee.
  
   At 06:20 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
  
  
   Try soaking it with water and a couple tablespoons of baking soda
   - Original Message -
   From: Spiro
   To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 17:58
   Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Dan or others,
  
   Hi,
   Maybe it took too long, but I finally got my Handyman thermos Two weeks
   ago.
   Steel, double walled with a 12oz steel cup.
   I'm saving $2 a day and it can take a beating.
   I'm sure to have it with me more than just to my non-fix-it job but
   thankfully to any outside project.
   However, Dan and others, it has that very familiar Canteen smell.
   You guys must know that smell.
   I've used it now for 8 days, and that smell went away for the most part
   after 5. But is was heavily in the coffee. It's still there, and I'm
   thinking $2 a day (makes the coffee cost $33.90 a pound at DD) is
   starting to sound good as I'm not happy with that as a taste in my fine
   etheopean coffee from home.
   Help, what gets that smell out of a canteen or steel liquids vessel?
   Thanks
  
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   Tim
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag Neptune Washer Bearing Problem

2010-04-10 Thread clifford
Dear Gil:
You saved yourself quite a sum by doing the work yourself.  I received a 
quote of five hundred bucks to repair our Neptune, which was one of the first 
ones out.  Since the machine had some years on it, we elected to replace it.  I 
understand that the Neptune was the cause  of Maytag going under.  That is a 
real shame, as Maytag was one of those names that was equivalent to long 
lasting high quality American made products.  The company name lives on, but 
the products are not the same.
We bought a Whirlpool with steam, and while it performs fairly well, my 
first wife would prefer to have a new Neptune, as she liked the old one better.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson
- Original Message - 
From: Gil Laster 
To: Blind Handyman 
Cc: jgatt...@gmail.com 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 5:24 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag Neptune Washer Bearing Problem


  
Jim,

You mentioned having replaced the control board on your Maytag Neptune washing 
machine and now the bearings are roaring. I have a 2002 model. The control 
board failed at 14-months and after some fussing Maytag relented and replaced 
it for me as a warranty item. The bearings began to roar at 6-years. My wife 
had not been very happy with the machine so thinking that I might have to buy a 
new washer I did some research on the Internet, bought bearings and a seal, 
improvised a bearing puller, and fixed it myself. My wife later admitted that 
she was hoping that I would fail. I had never worked on such a machine before. 
There was much on-the-job learning. It took me about 24-hours of effort, but I 
believe that I could do it again in about 4-hours. The job would have been much 
easier with a proper bearing puller, but I was too cheap to rent it at $80.

I will write more details if you or anyone else wants to know more.

- Gil Laster, Charlotte, NC

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