Re: [BlindHandyMan] Refrigerator!
Hey Michael, I had not heard of a system that allowed for operation of the water etc. with the filter out. THis is of course a nice benefit in the event you do not have one and need to still use the water. I know the replacement process is pretty simple for all the units I have encountered. If they made the process to complicated,, no one would bother replacing the filter. grin On Jul 23, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Michael baldwin wrote: i do not need to with mine,and it is a Kenmore. just twist and pull. i am guessing there is a valve that is turned when i have to twist the filter to disengage it. My ice and water keep working with no filter installed as well. When replacing one, it is good to run water through the system, this helps to clean out any manufacturing debris, and purge air from the system. Michael _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Robinson Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:07 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Refrigerator! Don't you have to shut off the water while changing the filter? Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Scott Howell s.how...@verizon.net mailto:s.howell%40verizon.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Refrigerator! Hi Claudia, To the best of my knowledge, most will have these filters. You generally will find the filter in one of two places. The first place is inside the fridge, near the top. It may be a short cylinder, which hangs vertically near the rear of the cabinet. Some filters are long cylinders that are mounted horizontaly and generally mounted on either side of the cabinet. Another place you will find filters is at the bottom of the unit behind the kick plate. In most cases you should not have to remove the kick plate to access the filter. In this case the filter will be mounted parallel to the floor. Regardless of the configuration, these filters generally require just a twist to unlock them from the mounting. You will find that most of these filters will have a handle that you can grab to remove or install it and I have even seen one where you remove the filter, pull a cap off the bottom, which is actually a part of the fridge and matches the kick plate, and you put on the new filter, before installation. I hope this helps and there may be other configurations I am not aware of that others can share. On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Claudia wrote: hi, Our fridge has a water dispenser. Are there filters that are supposed to be changed periodically, and if so, where do I find these filters! Claudia Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net mailto:cdelreal1973%40sbcglobal.net Skype: claudiadr10 __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5299 (20100721) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 PAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Refrigerator filter instructions
Hi, This is really interesting. I have a Whirlpool side by side circa 2003 from Sears and the filter is located at the top of the frig door. To change the filter just pull the old filter out and put in the new one. Now, previously I owned a side by side circa 1993 and there was no onboard filter. I installed an external filter with a cutoff just before the little filter. Same thing, turn off the water, remove the old filter and install the new one. Frankly I may well install an external filter on my current frig as the external filter is at least half the cost of the wonderful Sears filter. (LOLLOLLOL) We have an electrostatic filtering system on the house water supply so the frig filter seems to last a long time. Cy -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 7:05 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Refrigerator filter instructions This sure is a lot more work than is absolutely necessary. I have not had to drain water from the filter system. I simply open the fridge, twist the filter loose, and just make sure things look good in there, and finally install the new filter. I wonder if these instructions are for a particular fridge. On Jul 23, 2010, at 4:25 PM, RJ wrote: When you are going to change and add your refrigerator water filter replacement, ensure that you have at least cut down the supply of water. It will hasten the replacement process. 3. Reduce the pressure that is present in your filter. Besides the water supply, you must also lower down the pressure that you can find inside your existing refrigerator water filter. You do not want the sudden outburst of water to hinder your ability to change your water filter. What's more, it makes things much messier, and you will be dealing with a lot of cleanup later on. 4. Remove the filter casing. Water filters are usually protected with casing. For you to successfully add your refrigerator water filter replacement, you have to remove the casing at least temporarily. It is so much convenient for you to do this process first as you exactly identify the water filters. To remove it, you may have to unscrew the bolts first. 5. Clean the filtration system. Do not automatically replace the refrigerator water filter. You still have to clean the casing and the entire area first. Watch out for any present debris, impurity, and sediment that can mix with your water and your new filter. http://www.allwaterpurification.com/replace-refrigerator-water-filter.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
[BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth?
I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_first_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source=RSSutm_medium=RSS more http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:yIl2AUoC8zA http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:qj6IDK7rITs http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:V_sGLiPBpWU http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:gIN9vFwOqvQ http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:F7zBnMyn0Lo http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/product-reviews/~4/RST_N4bUEek View http://rss.consumersearch.com/~r/product-reviews/~3/RST_N4bUEek/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0 article... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth?
This is truly a disgusting reflection on the legal system. To reward some idiot for disabling any safety features that were available is crazy. I've researched this case for an article I am helping write for another list I'm on. For those that don't know the details, here are the important ones. The guy was working for a hardwood flooring company. He was using a bench top saw, not on a table or bench top, but on the floor. Next, he was trying to run a piece of 3 quarter inch thick by 2 and a quarter inches wide piece of oak wood through the blade of this saw without any available safety devices. If you read the instruction manual for any saw, they advise having the blade set so the teeth are just above the surface of the wood being cut. Court papers show he had the blade set to 3 inches, almost 2 and a quarter inches higher than recommended, and almost the limit for blade height on that particular saw. All table saw manufacturers recommend keeping the blade guard in place. This one had been removed. Anyone that uses a table saw knows the fence is required to make a straight cut. The fence in this case was not on the saw either. The victim admitted in court, both the blade guard and fence were not in place. Finally, when he started the cut, he said the wood started to chatter so he shut the saw down. He brushed the surface of the table clean and resumed his cut. When the wood started chattering again, he started pushing harder, completely opposite what you should do, and that is when his mishap occurred. In the court papers, he admitted to having operated the saw while on one knee on the floor. A completely off balance position. It is important to note that the law suit doesn't involve the flooring company this guy worked for. This is an attempt to mandate that all saws carry the blade break system in place on the SawStop brand. The model saw used cost $159 from home Depot. A bench top saw is designed to be lighter in weight, and is smaller so it can be used on a bench top. Adding a blade brake would greatly increase the size of the saw, and probably make it unsafe to sit on a bench. Not to mention the fact that you can forget about $159 for a price. The same saw would most likely double in price if not more. If the congress really wants to do something productive, something that would help all of us, they need to put a stop to law suits like this. Suing McDonalds because you are fat, or because their coffee is too hot? When I owned a shop years ago, we were all terrified as business owners when some jerk picked up a running lawn mower and tried to cut his hedges with it. This guy lost his finger tips but sued because there wasn't a warning label saying a mower wasn't fit for trimming hedges. His win in this law suit put a whole company out of business. You can't legislate against stupidity. If I use a machine designed to cut something as hard as oak wood, I know it won't have a problem cutting my fingers or hand off. If I take off the blade guard and fence and still try to cut wood, I deserve any punishment the saw dishes out for being that stupid. Have a problem paying for health insurance? Paying claims like these are what helps boost the cost. - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_first_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source=RSSutm_medium=RSS more http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:yIl2AUoC8zA http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:qj6IDK7rITs http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:V_sGLiPBpWU http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:gIN9vFwOqvQ http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:F7zBnMyn0Lo http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/product-reviews/~4/RST_N4bUEek View http://rss.consumersearch.com/~r/product-reviews/~3/RST_N4bUEek/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0 article... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message
RE: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth?
Bob, I could not agree with you more. These idiot law suits should be illegal and, furthermore, when the plaintiff looses I am not sure that he should not have to pay the legal costs involved in the defense. Man, that sure would slow down some folks who know that it will cost the company or other person a whole lot to defend themselves even though the case may be hopeless. You are also correct, even if the saw had all of the available safety equipment on it the moron would probably have disabled it as well. How the Dickens did that goof win the case? Cy, The anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:47 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? This is truly a disgusting reflection on the legal system. To reward some idiot for disabling any safety features that were available is crazy. I've researched this case for an article I am helping write for another list I'm on. For those that don't know the details, here are the important ones. The guy was working for a hardwood flooring company. He was using a bench top saw, not on a table or bench top, but on the floor. Next, he was trying to run a piece of 3 quarter inch thick by 2 and a quarter inches wide piece of oak wood through the blade of this saw without any available safety devices. If you read the instruction manual for any saw, they advise having the blade set so the teeth are just above the surface of the wood being cut. Court papers show he had the blade set to 3 inches, almost 2 and a quarter inches higher than recommended, and almost the limit for blade height on that particular saw. All table saw manufacturers recommend keeping the blade guard in place. This one had been removed. Anyone that uses a table saw knows the fence is required to make a straight cut. The fence in this case was not on the saw either. The victim admitted in court, both the blade guard and fence were not in place. Finally, when he started the cut, he said the wood started to chatter so he shut the saw down. He brushed the surface of the table clean and resumed his cut. When the wood started chattering again, he started pushing harder, completely opposite what you should do, and that is when his mishap occurred. In the court papers, he admitted to having operated the saw while on one knee on the floor. A completely off balance position. It is important to note that the law suit doesn't involve the flooring company this guy worked for. This is an attempt to mandate that all saws carry the blade break system in place on the SawStop brand. The model saw used cost $159 from home Depot. A bench top saw is designed to be lighter in weight, and is smaller so it can be used on a bench top. Adding a blade brake would greatly increase the size of the saw, and probably make it unsafe to sit on a bench. Not to mention the fact that you can forget about $159 for a price. The same saw would most likely double in price if not more. If the congress really wants to do something productive, something that would help all of us, they need to put a stop to law suits like this. Suing McDonalds because you are fat, or because their coffee is too hot? When I owned a shop years ago, we were all terrified as business owners when some jerk picked up a running lawn mower and tried to cut his hedges with it. This guy lost his finger tips but sued because there wasn't a warning label saying a mower wasn't fit for trimming hedges. His win in this law suit put a whole company out of business. You can't legislate against stupidity. If I use a machine designed to cut something as hard as oak wood, I know it won't have a problem cutting my fingers or hand off. If I take off the blade guard and fence and still try to cut wood, I deserve any punishment the saw dishes out for being that stupid. Have a problem paying for health insurance? Paying claims like these are what helps boost the cost. - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_f irst_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read
Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth?
A jury is supposed to be made up of 12 of your piers. So there should have been 12 woodworkers on the jury and they'd have finished the case in a day. I like the idea of having to pay legal costs if you lose. Adds some extra consideration before finding a slick attorney and filing papers. - Original Message - From: Cy Selfridge To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? Bob, I could not agree with you more. These idiot law suits should be illegal and, furthermore, when the plaintiff looses I am not sure that he should not have to pay the legal costs involved in the defense. Man, that sure would slow down some folks who know that it will cost the company or other person a whole lot to defend themselves even though the case may be hopeless. You are also correct, even if the saw had all of the available safety equipment on it the moron would probably have disabled it as well. How the Dickens did that goof win the case? Cy, The anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:47 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? This is truly a disgusting reflection on the legal system. To reward some idiot for disabling any safety features that were available is crazy. I've researched this case for an article I am helping write for another list I'm on. For those that don't know the details, here are the important ones. The guy was working for a hardwood flooring company. He was using a bench top saw, not on a table or bench top, but on the floor. Next, he was trying to run a piece of 3 quarter inch thick by 2 and a quarter inches wide piece of oak wood through the blade of this saw without any available safety devices. If you read the instruction manual for any saw, they advise having the blade set so the teeth are just above the surface of the wood being cut. Court papers show he had the blade set to 3 inches, almost 2 and a quarter inches higher than recommended, and almost the limit for blade height on that particular saw. All table saw manufacturers recommend keeping the blade guard in place. This one had been removed. Anyone that uses a table saw knows the fence is required to make a straight cut. The fence in this case was not on the saw either. The victim admitted in court, both the blade guard and fence were not in place. Finally, when he started the cut, he said the wood started to chatter so he shut the saw down. He brushed the surface of the table clean and resumed his cut. When the wood started chattering again, he started pushing harder, completely opposite what you should do, and that is when his mishap occurred. In the court papers, he admitted to having operated the saw while on one knee on the floor. A completely off balance position. It is important to note that the law suit doesn't involve the flooring company this guy worked for. This is an attempt to mandate that all saws carry the blade break system in place on the SawStop brand. The model saw used cost $159 from home Depot. A bench top saw is designed to be lighter in weight, and is smaller so it can be used on a bench top. Adding a blade brake would greatly increase the size of the saw, and probably make it unsafe to sit on a bench. Not to mention the fact that you can forget about $159 for a price. The same saw would most likely double in price if not more. If the congress really wants to do something productive, something that would help all of us, they need to put a stop to law suits like this. Suing McDonalds because you are fat, or because their coffee is too hot? When I owned a shop years ago, we were all terrified as business owners when some jerk picked up a running lawn mower and tried to cut his hedges with it. This guy lost his finger tips but sued because there wasn't a warning label saying a mower wasn't fit for trimming hedges. His win in this law suit put a whole company out of business. You can't legislate against stupidity. If I use a machine designed to cut something as hard as oak wood, I know it won't have a problem cutting my fingers or hand off. If I take off the blade guard and fence and still try to cut wood, I deserve any punishment the saw dishes out for being that stupid. Have a problem paying for health insurance? Paying claims like these are what helps boost the cost. - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog
[BlindHandyMan] talking multi meters
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth?
Bob, I did forget part of what I was thinking. In those type of law suits I think the plaintiff and his/her attorney should have to split the cost of the defense's costs should the plaintiff lose. That would make a lot of ambulance chasers think four or five times before taking on a case. It would cause the plaintiff's attorney to do a truly honest evaluation of the legitimacy of the case. I am a massage therapist and I have to carry 3 million in liability malpractice insurance. This does increase my operating costs. I know of several physicians whose malpractice insurance runs them over $180,000 per year. Who do you suppose actually pays for this? There is a Denver attorney named Frank Azar who advertises on TV. The shots show a horrid automobile accident and a (supposed) newscaster saying that this is a bad automobile accident followed by a shot of an air medivac taking off followed by a shot of Frankie boy and the newscaster saying Someone has called in Frank Azar followed by a shot of good old Frankie at the scene. Now, if this is not ambulance chasing I do not know what might be. (ROFLROFLROFL) Cy, The Anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 5:39 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? A jury is supposed to be made up of 12 of your piers. So there should have been 12 woodworkers on the jury and they'd have finished the case in a day. I like the idea of having to pay legal costs if you lose. Adds some extra consideration before finding a slick attorney and filing papers. - Original Message - From: Cy Selfridge To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? Bob, I could not agree with you more. These idiot law suits should be illegal and, furthermore, when the plaintiff looses I am not sure that he should not have to pay the legal costs involved in the defense. Man, that sure would slow down some folks who know that it will cost the company or other person a whole lot to defend themselves even though the case may be hopeless. You are also correct, even if the saw had all of the available safety equipment on it the moron would probably have disabled it as well. How the Dickens did that goof win the case? Cy, The anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:47 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? This is truly a disgusting reflection on the legal system. To reward some idiot for disabling any safety features that were available is crazy. I've researched this case for an article I am helping write for another list I'm on. For those that don't know the details, here are the important ones. The guy was working for a hardwood flooring company. He was using a bench top saw, not on a table or bench top, but on the floor. Next, he was trying to run a piece of 3 quarter inch thick by 2 and a quarter inches wide piece of oak wood through the blade of this saw without any available safety devices. If you read the instruction manual for any saw, they advise having the blade set so the teeth are just above the surface of the wood being cut. Court papers show he had the blade set to 3 inches, almost 2 and a quarter inches higher than recommended, and almost the limit for blade height on that particular saw. All table saw manufacturers recommend keeping the blade guard in place. This one had been removed. Anyone that uses a table saw knows the fence is required to make a straight cut. The fence in this case was not on the saw either. The victim admitted in court, both the blade guard and fence were not in place. Finally, when he started the cut, he said the wood started to chatter so he shut the saw down. He brushed the surface of the table clean and resumed his cut. When the wood started chattering again, he started pushing harder, completely opposite what you should do, and that is when his mishap occurred. In the court papers, he admitted to having operated the saw while on one knee on the floor. A completely off balance position. It is important to note that the law suit doesn't involve the flooring company this guy worked for. This is an attempt to mandate that all saws carry the blade break system in place on the SawStop brand. The model saw used cost $159 from home Depot. A bench top saw is designed to be lighter in weight, and is smaller so it can be used on a bench top. Adding a blade brake would greatly increase the size of the saw, and probably make it unsafe to sit on a bench. Not to mention the
Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth?
I coudl not agree more. The safety devices were included for a reason and if you remove or disable them, you automatically assume responsibility for the risk of operating the device. In other words, once it has been proven you rendered the safety features inoperable, you should really not be able to request compensation from the manufacturer. On Jul 24, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: This is truly a disgusting reflection on the legal system. To reward some idiot for disabling any safety features that were available is crazy. I've researched this case for an article I am helping write for another list I'm on. For those that don't know the details, here are the important ones. The guy was working for a hardwood flooring company. He was using a bench top saw, not on a table or bench top, but on the floor. Next, he was trying to run a piece of 3 quarter inch thick by 2 and a quarter inches wide piece of oak wood through the blade of this saw without any available safety devices. If you read the instruction manual for any saw, they advise having the blade set so the teeth are just above the surface of the wood being cut. Court papers show he had the blade set to 3 inches, almost 2 and a quarter inches higher than recommended, and almost the limit for blade height on that particular saw. All table saw manufacturers recommend keeping the blade guard in place. This one had been removed. Anyone that uses a table saw knows the fence is required to make a straight cut. The fence in this case was not on the saw either. The victim admitted in court, both the blade guard and fence were not in place. Finally, when he started the cut, he said the wood started to chatter so he shut the saw down. He brushed the surface of the table clean and resumed his cut. When the wood started chattering again, he started pushing harder, completely opposite what you should do, and that is when his mishap occurred. In the court papers, he admitted to having operated the saw while on one knee on the floor. A completely off balance position. It is important to note that the law suit doesn't involve the flooring company this guy worked for. This is an attempt to mandate that all saws carry the blade break system in place on the SawStop brand. The model saw used cost $159 from home Depot. A bench top saw is designed to be lighter in weight, and is smaller so it can be used on a bench top. Adding a blade brake would greatly increase the size of the saw, and probably make it unsafe to sit on a bench. Not to mention the fact that you can forget about $159 for a price. The same saw would most likely double in price if not more. If the congress really wants to do something productive, something that would help all of us, they need to put a stop to law suits like this. Suing McDonalds because you are fat, or because their coffee is too hot? When I owned a shop years ago, we were all terrified as business owners when some jerk picked up a running lawn mower and tried to cut his hedges with it. This guy lost his finger tips but sued because there wasn't a warning label saying a mower wasn't fit for trimming hedges. His win in this law suit put a whole company out of business. You can't legislate against stupidity. If I use a machine designed to cut something as hard as oak wood, I know it won't have a problem cutting my fingers or hand off. If I take off the blade guard and fence and still try to cut wood, I deserve any punishment the saw dishes out for being that stupid. Have a problem paying for health insurance? Paying claims like these are what helps boost the cost. - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_first_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source=RSSutm_medium=RSS more http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:yIl2AUoC8zA http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:qj6IDK7rITs http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:V_sGLiPBpWU
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I didn't get anything relevant from any of those links. Would you care to post the article? Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_first_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source=RSSutm_medium=RSS more http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:yIl2AUoC8zA http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:qj6IDK7rITs http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:V_sGLiPBpWU http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:gIN9vFwOqvQ http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:F7zBnMyn0Lo http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/product-reviews/~4/RST_N4bUEek View http://rss.consumersearch.com/~r/product-reviews/~3/RST_N4bUEek/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0 article... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
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Try http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source=R SSutm_medium=RSS Shane From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Robinson Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:15 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I didn't get anything relevant from any of those links. Would you care to post the article? Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com mailto:shanehecker%40gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_f irst_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source= RSS http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source= RSSutm_medium=RSS utm_medium=RSS more http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :yIl2AUoC8zA http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :qj6IDK7rITs http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :V_sGLiPBpWU http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :gIN9vFwOqvQ http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :F7zBnMyn0Lo http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/product-reviews/~4/RST_N4bUEek View http://rss.consumersearch.com/~r/product-reviews/~3/RST_N4bUEek/how-much-is -a-finger-worth-0 article... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 PAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Something is screwed up. When I get to the page jaws starts reading a seemingly endless list of links. When I try to jump to the heading by typing H I get the message the web page can't be displayed. I pretty much get the idea from what people have said in their responses. Why am I always the one who can't make it work? Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? Try http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source=R SSutm_medium=RSS Shane From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Robinson Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:15 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I didn't get anything relevant from any of those links. Would you care to post the article? Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com mailto:shanehecker%40gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_f irst_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source= RSS http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source= RSSutm_medium=RSS utm_medium=RSS more http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :yIl2AUoC8zA http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :qj6IDK7rITs http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :V_sGLiPBpWU http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :gIN9vFwOqvQ http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI :F7zBnMyn0Lo http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/product-reviews/~4/RST_N4bUEek View http://rss.consumersearch.com/~r/product-reviews/~3/RST_N4bUEek/how-much-is -a-finger-worth-0 article... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_ pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 PAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo ! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link
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Hi List; How much is your eye sight worth? I lost my eyesight to medical malpractice. What started as an abscessed wisdom tooth that resulted in gangrene. It almost killed me but, in California the laws set limits on how much you can sue for in a medical malpractice lawsuit. I don't much give a damn about how much a doctor has to pay in medmal insurance because when they totally screw up they just walk away and the person they totally screwed over is left holding the bag for the rest of their of life. Yet, you get these dub ass lawsuits that win a plaintiff tons of money for the dumbest reasons! This is a topic that I don't take lightly because of some of the stupid lawsuits like the ones mentioned about hot coffee and people trying to trim their hedges with a damn lawnmower! All I am trying to say is that doctors, at times, should be held more accountable for their actions and this world needs a whole lot more common sense that more stupid laws that allow people to bring such frivalous lawsuits. Okay, end of rant! Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] FW: How much is a finger worth? I thought this was interesting. Shane Feed: Productopia: The ConsumerSearch Blog Posted on: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:02 AM Author: Catherine Jo Morgan Subject: How much is a finger worth? How about a hand? Do table saw http://www.consumersearch.com/table-saw-reviews manufacturers have an obligation to use the safest technology available? The first jury to consider this question -- in a civil lawsuit against the maker of Ryobi table saws -- answered quite a definite yes, to the tune of a 1.5 million dollar award http://www.boston.com/yourtown/malden/articles/2010/03/06/man_wins_15m_in_first_of_its_kind_saw_case/%20 to the plaintiff. read http://www.consumersearch.com/blog/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0?utm_source=RSSutm_medium=RSS more http://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:yIl2AUoC8zAhttp://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:qj6IDK7rITshttp://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:V_sGLiPBpWUhttp://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:gIN9vFwOqvQhttp://rss.consumersearch.com/~ff/product-reviews?a=RST_N4bUEek:Ijc4TGBBRpI:F7zBnMyn0Lo http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/product-reviews/~4/RST_N4bUEekViewhttp://rss.consumersearch.com/~r/product-reviews/~3/RST_N4bUEek/how-much-is-a-finger-worth-0 article...[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
