Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-31 Thread Brice Mijares
Number one rule, bring your own beer!
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 Also it is important that guests must realize that even though you are 
 blind, you will know sooner or later if they obey your pool rules or not. 
 They will also realize that if they don't obey the rules they will be 
 swimming somewhere else.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool



  Jennifer and all, another great idea you could use, if you were to be a
  guest in someone elses pool is to maybe donate a hanging basket of
  cherry tomatoes or use your imagination as a one time gift. several
  years ago I had a Friend who donated a bucket of chlorine tablets. Now
  here is the touchy subject for someone. other folks need to get past
  your blindness. others need to know that we as blind folks can do many
  things in and around a pool to be helpfull. it is all in education of
  the public. then relax and enjoy the fantastic hot weather we have
  coming. Lee

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  My favorite day, said Pooh.





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-30 Thread Lee A. Stone

Jennifer, If I may, from my  perspective  of opening and closing a pool 
here in the Northeast .  I have always welcomed extra hands and minds as 
we open and   close the pool.  we used to pay $250 to the company, 
Islander  pools when we first got  this pool some 11 years ago. However 
after listening to what these guys were doing  I figured why not spend 
that extra $500 on some car payments or some good Scotch. this is a 
teamwork  project of opening. first of all  the pool is an above  ground 
pool which is a 33 foot round pool. . what we are supposed to do when we 
close is to drop the water level below the  input line where the water 
blows  back into the pool. at that spot we unscrew that   screw on  
piece which feels like it has an eye ball inside which in facts directs 
the flow of water. then that is unscrewed and replaced with like a 
rubbermaid  winter cap , thus keeping the water from flowing back thru 
 should the water level  rise during the winter or cold months.  then 
there is  the plumbing for the  discharge lines and pump all which must 
be taken apart and properly stored in containers  which can be readily 
found again in the Spring.  the old statement  sometimes works as in 
many hands make light work well the many hands comes in  removing the 
winder tarp or cover which has been tied or weighted down.  I hang many 
gallon jugs of water to keep the cover tight during the winter.  so to 
remove the cover one must first remove the melted snow/ water which 
might be built up on that same cover.  we use a winter cover because of 
two bean trees we have as well as neighbors trees which  dump all sorts 
of crap  down which could end up in the pool. now also if the pool is 
closed properly  the water should be clear and clean as there has been 
no sun exposure for many months. No sun  means no algaie  . . Once the 
winter cover is released, with extra hands and the excess water is 
either siphoned off or pumped off, then it is a process of rolling the 
cover off and  letting it air  dry on the lawn. More about the drying 
pricess in another  email. Okay. Now we dump in about 2 1/2 gallons of 
chlorine shock which is about 11 to 12 % chlorine  and I mix two one 
pound box's of arm and hammer baking soda with water and dump that in. . 
we add two garden hoses to bring the   water level up and while that is 
being done several hands can be used to assemble the plumbing. Not a  
major  job but if extra hands  work together it is great. Once all this 
is done. the only sighted help I need is to  check the  ph and other 
levels in the pool.  we used to dump in all kinds of chemicals such as 
stabilizers ,etc. but now we can just use  the initial liquid shock. 
then add   3 inch chlorine tablets to an automatic chlorinator  and flip 
on the switch. I might also ask an extra hand for the initial  vaccuming 
with the big vac and  installing the pool stairs which are like regular 
stails with a railing which are made of sturdy   pvc material. these 
stairs are held in place by the weight of water which is pumped  by hose 
into the railing  which drains down into I think the lower stair.  . 
anyone , blind or not can level up the stairs  underwater and then we 
are ready to go. the rest of the season I use mostly an auto vac system 
which I can hook up as long as someone  does not move my supplies. as 
for helping out your Friend  who wants it all done right, just ask, how 
can I help and when do you want us there.  What really  ticks me off is 
when the work is all done  the folks  coming up the driveway and asking 
if there is any cold beer and is the pool ready. Now most folks who are 
nice would bring their own cooler and towels  but. alas . well I'll stop 
here. this year I am locking the big  backyard gate and only those who 
come thru the house will get into the pool. why you would ask? well 
that's another story. I'll just say you get lots of Friends , so called 
Friends when it gets hot out and you have a pool. but good Friends would 
offer to help  in some way. such as one Friend  is an awesome cook on 
the grill and is a great bartender but he cannot  lift to help on other 
projects, so he is in like flinn. if there is other questions feel free 
to ask on or off list. thanks.Lee



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-30 Thread Lee A. Stone

Jennifer and all, another great idea you could use, if you were to be a 
guest in someone elses pool is to maybe donate a hanging basket of 
cherry tomatoes or use your imagination as a one time gift.  several 
years ago  I had a Friend who donated a bucket of  chlorine tablets. Now 
here is the touchy subject for someone.  other folks need to get past 
your blindness.  others need to know that we as blind folks can do many 
things  in and around a pool to be helpfull. it is all in education of 
the public. then relax and enjoy the fantastic hot weather we have 
coming. Lee



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-30 Thread Eugene Baroni
Also it is important that guests must realize that even though you are blind, 
you will know sooner or later if they obey your pool rules or not. They will 
also realize that if they don't obey the rules they will be swimming somewhere 
else.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool



  Jennifer and all, another great idea you could use, if you were to be a 
  guest in someone elses pool is to maybe donate a hanging basket of 
  cherry tomatoes or use your imagination as a one time gift. several 
  years ago I had a Friend who donated a bucket of chlorine tablets. Now 
  here is the touchy subject for someone. other folks need to get past 
  your blindness. others need to know that we as blind folks can do many 
  things in and around a pool to be helpfull. it is all in education of 
  the public. then relax and enjoy the fantastic hot weather we have 
  coming. Lee

  -- 
  It's today! said Piglet.
  My favorite day, said Pooh.


   


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-29 Thread Dan Rossi
Dale wrote:

 That is not correct Mr. Rossi!

 Only the American gallon which is 128 ounces

Blah blah blah.  Enough said.  *GRIN*

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-29 Thread Jennifer Jackson
Hey, if the scientists at nASA can't get that stuff right, what can you expect 
from us?

Seriously though, what goes into opening a pool?  I have a friend with a pool 
who invites us over often.  We always clean up afterwards, and bring our own 
towels to help keep down her work, but what else can we offer to do?  She is a 
total control freak and may not let us, but still it would seem like the right 
thing to do to offer especially after you guys talking about the amount of work 
involved.

BTW, yes I know my friend is a control freak because it takes one to know one. 
*smile*


Jennifer
  
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  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool


  Dale wrote:

   That is not correct Mr. Rossi!
  
   Only the American gallon which is 128 ounces

  Blah blah blah. Enough said. *GRIN*

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-29 Thread Steve
Really, Jennifer, not much.  When I had a pool, the hardest thing was taking 
the 
cover off, and the occasional vacuuming.

Balancing the chemicals wasn't hard as long as there was somebody to read the 
balance.  So, I wouldn't worry much.

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Hey, if the scientists at nASA can't get that stuff right, what can you expect 
from us?

Seriously though, what goes into opening a pool?  I have a friend with a pool 
who invites us over often.  We always clean up afterwards, and bring our own 
towels to help keep down her work, but what else can we offer to do?  She is a 
total control freak and may not let us, but still it would seem like the right 
thing to do to offer especially after you guys talking about the amount of work 
involved.

BTW, yes I know my friend is a control freak because it takes one to know one. 
*smile*


Jennifer

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  From: Dan Rossi
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool


  Dale wrote:

   That is not correct Mr. Rossi!
  
   Only the American gallon which is 128 ounces

  Blah blah blah. Enough said. *GRIN*

  -- 
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[BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-27 Thread Lee A. Stone

So where were all those voleenters yesterday when we started to pull the 
winter cover off the swimming pool/ ? I know, I know all the same lame 
excuses. so now that job is half done and I toss up my arms.  told you 
so and ducked as I heard water coming my way. what happened is , they, 
, other family members, no not me , did not put the tire tubes and the  
blow up blanket under the cover. so what happens when you start to pull 
a 33 foot round cover off, actually it must be 34 foot round as it 
covers this 33 foot pool. well   it was like how the Indians felt back 
in the time of Oz. , pulling in the fishing nets. so just for my own 
information would someone share  what the weight is for a gallon of 
water? was it something like eight pounds? thanksLee



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-27 Thread John Schwery
Lee, yep, about 8 pounds.

earlier, Lee A. Stone, wrote:


So where were all those voleenters yesterday when we started to pull the
winter cover off the swimming pool/ ? I know, I know all the same lame
excuses. so now that job is half done and I toss up my arms.  told you
so and ducked as I heard water coming my way. what happened is , they,
, other family members, no not me , did not put the tire tubes and the
blow up blanket under the cover. so what happens when you start to pull
a 33 foot round cover off, actually it must be 34 foot round as it
covers this 33 foot pool. well it was like how the Indians felt back
in the time of Oz. , pulling in the fishing nets. so just for my own
information would someone share what the weight is for a gallon of
water? was it something like eight pounds? thanksLee

--
He had been bitten by a dog, but didn't give it much thought
until he noticed that the wound was taking a remarkably long time to
heal. Finally, he consulted a doctor who took one look at it and
ordered the dog brought in. Just as he had suspected, the dog had
rabies. Since it was too late to give the patient serum, the doctor
felt he had to prepare him for the worst. The poor man sat down at the
doctor's desk and began to write. His physician tried to comfort him.
Perhaps it won't be so bad, he said. You needn't make out your will
right now.
I'm not making out any will, relied the man. I'm just writing
out a list of people I'm going to bite!


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-27 Thread Dan Rossi
Lee,

that is why you are supposed to siphon off the water from the pool cover 
before you try removing it.

Yep, and water weighs one ounce per ounce, so 8 pounds per gallon.  About 
the only thing the English managed to relate across measuring systems.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-27 Thread Lee A. Stone

Dan, we are at a standstill. at this point my equal  is in agreement 
somehow we get this sucker up and running and then put up a for sale 
sign. it is our eleventh year with this  and I'm up to my  ya know with 
attitudes and folks showing up oh is the pool ready yet.. anyway. no way 
to siphon this year as apparently the ice made some nasty cuts in the 
winter cover so as we shipon we are then lowering the water in the pool.  
I'll let it set for two days  . today we got our usual 5 gallons of 11 
or 12 per cent  shock. I was even thinking of switching to a salt water 
system next year. but. time will tell. thanks Lee



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ordered the dog brought in.  Just as he had suspected, the dog had
rabies.  Since it was too late to give the patient serum, the doctor
felt he had to prepare him for the worst.  The poor man sat down at the
doctor's desk and began to write.  His physician tried to comfort him.
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right now.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-27 Thread Dale Leavens
That is not correct Mr. Rossi!

Only the American gallon which is 128 ounces not the Imperial gallon used in 
England which is 160 ounces. In Canada and I believe Australia and New Zealand 
and quite probably some other remnants of the British Commonwealth of Nations, 
most of which have adopted Metric measures now will still have some legacy 
Imperial measurement systems around.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman 
  Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool


  Lee,

  that is why you are supposed to siphon off the water from the pool cover 
  before you try removing it.

  Yep, and water weighs one ounce per ounce, so 8 pounds per gallon. About 
  the only thing the English managed to relate across measuring systems.

  -- 
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  Dan Rossi
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool

2007-05-27 Thread Eugene Baroni
It is amazing how fast you become isolated when it is time to open the pool, 
but the minute it is up and running, just like magic, everyone reappears.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: Blind Handyman 
  Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Opening the pool


  Lee,

  that is why you are supposed to siphon off the water from the pool cover 
  before you try removing it.

  Yep, and water weighs one ounce per ounce, so 8 pounds per gallon. About 
  the only thing the English managed to relate across measuring systems.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


   


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