Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Tom, Another thing to check is the short piece of pipe that screws onto the big drain piece in the sink. This pipe is called the tailpiece and screws onto the drain basket with a fine thread. this fine thread should have a bit of pipe thread sealant on it and it should be screwed up tight to the drain basket. When you are tightening the slip joint nut, you are turning it in the direction that can loosen the tailpiece thread. Check to make sure this has not happened. Another thing is to make sure that none of the pieces have rotted through with either small holes or cracks. Good luck. - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up? I am not sure I fully understand the set-up you have but most of my drains have a tail coming down from the bottom of the sink which slides into the top of the sewer, sometimes right into the top of the trap. There is a nylon ring like a compression fitting you slide over the tail just under the nut which is squeezed between the hand nut and the inside of the sewer fitting so when you screw the nut down it forces this ring down into the top of the sewer drain fitting. The ring is wedged in cross section, the thin side goes down and this forms a compression fitting around the tail of the sink. If the tail is distorted you won't get a good seal but usually that doesn't matter a lot unless there is pressure in the sink, once the trap begins to syphon that fitting will be quite forgiving. If the drainage is slow though, drips will squeeze out. Of course you prefer it to be water tight anyway but in my experience, hand tight is all you need. Here, common sizes are inch and an eighth, inch and a quarter and inch and a half, the fit should be snug. There are of course many different arrangements and in an older house often some cobbled together hybrid. Your system may be quite different, it actually sounds quite different but I might be misunderstanding it. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up? Dale, I believe the rubber gaskets in the new nuts are square in cross section, but I'll check more carefully that could be it! I don't see that the flanged end of the pipe looks distorted, but again, i'll check carefully. Since there is a plastic flange that fits inside the upper end of the small pipe which I might call a universal joint? maybe that nut doesn't need a rubber gasket. That might be keeping the nut from threading far enough up on the drain end to stayput. I'll have along weekend with Sue off at a music workshop to fill, so may as welll muck about with drains. Thanks Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Dale, Yes, it's quite different, The threaded tail from the drain takes an inch and a quarter slip nut and has a flange shaped plastic insert that is pushed up against this tail by a small flange on the top of a piece of smaller pipe with the afore mentioned slip joint nut holding this all together. This first pipe is maybe 2 inches long and is a kind of joiner between the drain and a further set of slip joint pipes that bring the drains from the two sinks together and go through the trap and into the cast iron sewer. The old stuff had no washers in the slip joint nuts but the new nuts came with square cross section washers but with a washer in the top fitting where it goes up against the larger drain pipe, the nut won't thread on enough to stay put. I suspect that slow drain is most of the problem causing the backup that leaves the pipe full long enough to leak. I'm beginning to think the vent is stopped cause it bubbles a lot when full. Thanks, will continue to thrash this weekend. Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Hi Mickey, Yep, I looked carefully at the tail piece and it is coroded solid, so if it is leaking it's cause it has crack. I'm going to put some compound or teflon tape on that thread also to see if that stops it. With the supplied washer in the slip joint nut, the nut can't come up far enough on the tail piece thread to hold so I think either the washer is too thick or the threads on the tail piece are stripped. Thanks tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
wow tom ouch. i would fix it with a short piece of hose and a clamp or 2 or supprise the one who shall be obeyed with a new sink grin. jim At 10:21 PM 10/17/2006, you wrote: so I tried to clear a kitchen double sink drain with a plunger,it's worked in the past, and noticed a couple days later water all over the floor! We had a large plastic drawer under the sink in the cupboard for cleaning stuff, and that had filled up with drain water before spilling over so we'd notice. So we hadn't needed cleaning stuff in the meantime. So we drug it all out, tossed the stuff that was soaked, mopped, mopped and mopped and got it more or less dry. then we remembered we have at least two wet dry vacuums which might just have made things easier? groan I found a slip joint nut at the end of the drain just below the sink that had split. so I took the thing apart and took the little 2 inch long connector piece with two nuts on it, and a little plastic flange that presumably is a washer between the drain end and the flange of the pipe and went down to our nice old ace hardware store. I got four new nuts knowing how things go. Came in little plastic packages with rubber washers and all. Only a buck and a half each, cheap! got home this evening after a day of 400 emails and downloads and meetings and so on, and put things back together. I was so, so carefull not to cross thread the nuts. I tightened up on the upper nut that's against the drain first, cause the lower one is the one that is a real slip joint. got it all fairly tight and put a pair of slip joint pliers on it just to get it firm, not too hard. Drip, drip, drip, and blasphemy! I was stamping around wondering what was wrong, and hit something small with my large blind foot. It was the little plastic flange that was supposed to go on top of the pipe, against the drain end. took it all apart, it isn't really that hard, and put the flange in. Put it back together and when tightening up the upper nut, it popped loose just as it was tight. More speaking to spirits of the sewer in their language! wondered if I'd stripped the top nut somehow so took it all apart again and replaced the upper nut. Put it all back again, so, so, so carefully! Drip,drip, drip! Well onlyh with a heavy flow of water. So I guess I may have stripped the threads on the end of the drain its self. That takes a huge rench, bigger than i believe is my largest crescent. And what happens when you undo that huge nut that's been there for over 30 years? Other stuff will undoubtedly bust, I just know it. So, oh wise and wonderfull handy persons, where did I go wrong? Besides using too much force on a 30 yeaar old sink wwith a plunger? Now be nice, tell me I didn't mess up, it was just age. Like how I'm falling apart after sixty! It's just age. that's what my doc says when I complain about sstuff that annoys me, it's just age. sorry its so long, my wife isn't here to hear me speaking nasty things so I just had to go off. Tom Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 10/18/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Dale, thanks, I've done some of that and I believe the leak is comming from the actual upper slip joint but will continue to paper over the problem. GRIN tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Jim, Hose is a good backup if nothing else works., thanks As for new sinks, it's a rented house, darned if I'll buy one for the landlord good folks even though they be. Wouldn't need a sink I hope, at most new drain parts maybe. Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Tom, Is their any way possible for you to apply a small amount of air pressure to the sink side of the drain and then feel for the air leek underneath? If you have access to an air compressor turn the regulator down to about 8LBS, use a rag to seal around the outflow side of the sink and squeeze the trigger on the air nozel. You may need an assistant to man the air nozel otherwise it might be a bit of a stretch from sink to pipes. The best part of this technique is that air won't get your seeing fingers wet. At 10:38 AM 10/18/2006 -0700, Tom Fowle wrote: Dale, thanks, I've done some of that and I believe the leak is comming from the actual upper slip joint but will continue to paper over the problem. GRIN tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Regards Larry Stansifer Toll Free 1 (800)-527-9572 Voice: 1 (435)-688-1391 Fax: 1 (435) 628-6981 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
He can use that plunger we know he has, he'll just need someone to do the .plunging - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com; blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up? Tom, Is their any way possible for you to apply a small amount of air pressure to the sink side of the drain and then feel for the air leek underneath? If you have access to an air compressor turn the regulator down to about 8LBS, use a rag to seal around the outflow side of the sink and squeeze the trigger on the air nozel. You may need an assistant to man the air nozel otherwise it might be a bit of a stretch from sink to pipes. The best part of this technique is that air won't get your seeing fingers wet. At 10:38 AM 10/18/2006 -0700, Tom Fowle wrote: Dale, thanks, I've done some of that and I believe the leak is comming from the actual upper slip joint but will continue to paper over the problem. GRIN tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Regards Larry Stansifer Toll Free 1 (800)-527-9572 Voice: 1 (435)-688-1391 Fax: 1 (435) 628-6981 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Hi Lary, Nope, don't have a compresserk guess I could hook it to the gas lines and have a look round with a match GRIN I think it'd be pretty hard to get a good seal on the drain, inside the sink, end. Interesting thought thanks Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Hi Tom, Wouldn't a shop vac with a blower accomplish the same task? Victor Gouveia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Betsy, They probably will if I ask, we have a personal policy of trying to fix stuff our selves, that's why our rent is very cheap and has remained so for nearly 35 years. May have to ask for professional help if I can't figger it out. Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Ah, got it... Betsy At 09:16 AM 10/18/2006, you wrote: Betsy, They probably will if I ask, we have a personal policy of trying to fix stuff our selves, that's why our rent is very cheap and has remained so for nearly 35 years. May have to ask for professional help if I can't figger it out. Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Damn right it wood and that big pressure side outlet would be easier to seal. At 03:20 PM 10/18/2006 -0400, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Tom, Wouldn't a shop vac with a blower accomplish the same task? Victor Gouveia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Regards Larry Stansifer Toll Free 1 (800)-527-9572 Voice: 1 (435)-688-1391 Fax: 1 (435) 628-6981 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Hoom, we used to use a water and dish washing detergent mix to check for leaks on tanks. I don't know how practical this would be, but a sighted person could pretty easily see where the bubbles were while the blower was blowing if Tom was able to apply a little of that solution on his pipes. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -Original Message- From: Larry Stansifer[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/18/06 3:15:50 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com, blindhandyman@yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up? Damn right it wood and that big pressure side outlet would be easier to seal. At 03:20 PM 10/18/2006 -0400, Victor Gouveia wrote: Hi Tom, Wouldn't a shop vac with a blower accomplish the same task? Victor Gouveia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Regards Larry Stansifer Toll Free 1 (800)-527-9572 Voice: 1 (435)-688-1391 Fax: 1 (435) 628-6981 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
bill, Yes, thanks, I now remember that gas companies still use a similar solution to check for gas leaks. tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Did my suggestion of the shop vac garner some sarcastic remarks, or are you all serious in putting what I said down? Just wondering as I am not able to figure out whether this is sarcasm or response. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Tom, Don't feel bad. One time someone asked me to use a device that forced air into the sink drain to clear it for her. So, being a kind soul that I am, I proceeded as she instructed. It was an old house and the air pressure blew the pipes off at the back wall. Hmm, had to call the pros. At 09:31 AM 10/18/2006, you wrote: victor, yes, fine, and so will the acursed plunger that started it all GRIN tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Dale, I believe the rubber gaskets in the new nuts are square in cross section, but I'll check more carefully that could be it! I don't see that the flanged end of the pipe looks distorted, but again, i'll check carefully. Since there is a plastic flange that fits inside the upper end of the small pipe which I might call a universal joint? maybe that nut doesn't need a rubber gasket. That might be keeping the nut from threading far enough up on the drain end to stayput. I'll have along weekend with Sue off at a music workshop to fill, so may as welll muck about with drains. Thanks Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
I am not sure I fully understand the set-up you have but most of my drains have a tail coming down from the bottom of the sink which slides into the top of the sewer, sometimes right into the top of the trap. There is a nylon ring like a compression fitting you slide over the tail just under the nut which is squeezed between the hand nut and the inside of the sewer fitting so when you screw the nut down it forces this ring down into the top of the sewer drain fitting. The ring is wedged in cross section, the thin side goes down and this forms a compression fitting around the tail of the sink. If the tail is distorted you won't get a good seal but usually that doesn't matter a lot unless there is pressure in the sink, once the trap begins to syphon that fitting will be quite forgiving. If the drainage is slow though, drips will squeeze out. Of course you prefer it to be water tight anyway but in my experience, hand tight is all you need. Here, common sizes are inch and an eighth, inch and a quarter and inch and a half, the fit should be snug. There are of course many different arrangements and in an older house often some cobbled together hybrid. Your system may be quite different, it actually sounds quite different but I might be misunderstanding it. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up? Dale, I believe the rubber gaskets in the new nuts are square in cross section, but I'll check more carefully that could be it! I don't see that the flanged end of the pipe looks distorted, but again, i'll check carefully. Since there is a plastic flange that fits inside the upper end of the small pipe which I might call a universal joint? maybe that nut doesn't need a rubber gasket. That might be keeping the nut from threading far enough up on the drain end to stayput. I'll have along weekend with Sue off at a music workshop to fill, so may as welll muck about with drains. Thanks Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
Tom, you are in luck. I am fully stocked for the winter. I have just picked up two three packs of black electric tape and one giant roll of duck tape. now we will fix that sucker. Lee -- Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn't have said. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
so I tried to clear a kitchen double sink drain with a plunger,it's worked in the past, and noticed a couple days later water all over the floor! We had a large plastic drawer under the sink in the cupboard for cleaning stuff, and that had filled up with drain water before spilling over so we'd notice. So we hadn't needed cleaning stuff in the meantime. So we drug it all out, tossed the stuff that was soaked, mopped, mopped and mopped and got it more or less dry. then we remembered we have at least two wet dry vacuums which might just have made things easier? groan I found a slip joint nut at the end of the drain just below the sink that had split. so I took the thing apart and took the little 2 inch long connector piece with two nuts on it, and a little plastic flange that presumably is a washer between the drain end and the flange of the pipe and went down to our nice old ace hardware store. I got four new nuts knowing how things go. Came in little plastic packages with rubber washers and all. Only a buck and a half each, cheap! got home this evening after a day of 400 emails and downloads and meetings and so on, and put things back together. I was so, so carefull not to cross thread the nuts. I tightened up on the upper nut that's against the drain first, cause the lower one is the one that is a real slip joint. got it all fairly tight and put a pair of slip joint pliers on it just to get it firm, not too hard. Drip, drip, drip, and blasphemy! I was stamping around wondering what was wrong, and hit something small with my large blind foot. It was the little plastic flange that was supposed to go on top of the pipe, against the drain end. took it all apart, it isn't really that hard, and put the flange in. Put it back together and when tightening up the upper nut, it popped loose just as it was tight. More speaking to spirits of the sewer in their language! wondered if I'd stripped the top nut somehow so took it all apart again and replaced the upper nut. Put it all back again, so, so, so carefully! Drip,drip, drip! Well onlyh with a heavy flow of water. So I guess I may have stripped the threads on the end of the drain its self. That takes a huge rench, bigger than i believe is my largest crescent. And what happens when you undo that huge nut that's been there for over 30 years? Other stuff will undoubtedly bust, I just know it. So, oh wise and wonderfull handy persons, where did I go wrong? Besides using too much force on a 30 yeaar old sink wwith a plunger? Now be nice, tell me I didn't mess up, it was just age. Like how I'm falling apart after sixty! It's just age. that's what my doc says when I complain about sstuff that annoys me, it's just age. sorry its so long, my wife isn't here to hear me speaking nasty things so I just had to go off. Tom Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up?
I wonder if years of harsh chemicals have damaged the tail piece of the sink? or maybe even the gasket between the drain basket and the body of the sink? The thing is to discover where the water is coming from. Eyes can often see small drips forming but once the fingers are damp they don't see a damn thing. I have sometimes found that a supply of paper towel so you can dry thoroughly and then wrap a dry piece around the pipe helps to discover that damp point where the water appears. You move your way up and down the pipe with pieces of this paper towel until you locate the source. It isn't always obvious and may not be where you think. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:21 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] slip joint leak: I messed up? so I tried to clear a kitchen double sink drain with a plunger,it's worked in the past, and noticed a couple days later water all over the floor! We had a large plastic drawer under the sink in the cupboard for cleaning stuff, and that had filled up with drain water before spilling over so we'd notice. So we hadn't needed cleaning stuff in the meantime. So we drug it all out, tossed the stuff that was soaked, mopped, mopped and mopped and got it more or less dry. then we remembered we have at least two wet dry vacuums which might just have made things easier? groan I found a slip joint nut at the end of the drain just below the sink that had split. so I took the thing apart and took the little 2 inch long connector piece with two nuts on it, and a little plastic flange that presumably is a washer between the drain end and the flange of the pipe and went down to our nice old ace hardware store. I got four new nuts knowing how things go. Came in little plastic packages with rubber washers and all. Only a buck and a half each, cheap! got home this evening after a day of 400 emails and downloads and meetings and so on, and put things back together. I was so, so carefull not to cross thread the nuts. I tightened up on the upper nut that's against the drain first, cause the lower one is the one that is a real slip joint. got it all fairly tight and put a pair of slip joint pliers on it just to get it firm, not too hard. Drip, drip, drip, and blasphemy! I was stamping around wondering what was wrong, and hit something small with my large blind foot. It was the little plastic flange that was supposed to go on top of the pipe, against the drain end. took it all apart, it isn't really that hard, and put the flange in. Put it back together and when tightening up the upper nut, it popped loose just as it was tight. More speaking to spirits of the sewer in their language! wondered if I'd stripped the top nut somehow so took it all apart again and replaced the upper nut. Put it all back again, so, so, so carefully! Drip,drip, drip! Well onlyh with a heavy flow of water. So I guess I may have stripped the threads on the end of the drain its self. That takes a huge rench, bigger than i believe is my largest crescent. And what happens when you undo that huge nut that's been there for over 30 years? Other stuff will undoubtedly bust, I just know it. So, oh wise and wonderfull handy persons, where did I go wrong? Besides using too much force on a 30 yeaar old sink wwith a plunger? Now be nice, tell me I didn't mess up, it was just age. Like how I'm falling apart after sixty! It's just age. that's what my doc says when I complain about sstuff that annoys me, it's just age. sorry its so long, my wife isn't here to hear me speaking nasty things so I just had to go off. Tom Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp
