RE: [BlindHandyMan] tractors
Wow, at that point I'd find somebody else to do it. Jimmy...KD5QHH... New home page, http://www.podsim.us MSN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:12 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Getting a Trekker or other GPS system for mowing the lawn is a bit extravagant. Might as well get a robotic lawn mower at that point. But it might work. Here's a much cheaper way, but doubt you will like the solution. Just do one of those invisible fences for dogs. Then where the receiver on your arm. Whenever you get close to the edge of the field, it would shock the hell out of you. They are distance modulated as well, so you could tell how close you are getting to the edge by the strength of the shock you are receiving. *GRIN* -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors
Maybe I could put one on my kid and make my turns based on how loud he yelps? :) Perhaps not. On a more serious note, how old is old enough to start mowing the lawn? What kind of safety instructions should I be handing out? Jennifer - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Getting a Trekker or other GPS system for mowing the lawn is a bit extravagant. Might as well get a robotic lawn mower at that point. But it might work. Here's a much cheaper way, but doubt you will like the solution. Just do one of those invisible fences for dogs. Then where the receiver on your arm. Whenever you get close to the edge of the field, it would shock the hell out of you. They are distance modulated as well, so you could tell how close you are getting to the edge by the strength of the shock you are receiving. *GRIN* -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I'd say old enough depends upon the child and how trustworthy they are and how they follow instructions. Our daughters were helping with yard work by the age of 8 and around 10 or 11 we started letting them use the mowers. Of course at that age we kept constant watch on them, but as they proved to be responsible and they knew how the mowers worked we slowly started watching them less and less. One thing I made clear was how sharp the blades were and showed them where to never put their body parts at any time while the mower is running. One thing I did to prove my point was taking a nurf ball, one of the small ones, and while the mower was going took a stick and lifted the shoot dropping the ball into the turning blades. I then asked them what happened to the ball, of course we all know nothing was left of it. I told them that any part of their body that got under the blades would look just like that ball. I think that one of the most important things is to make sure that the child understands all the parts of the mower and how it works. Once they understand the mower, can manage the mower itself and can point out safety issues they should be able to use the tool effectively. As I said before, the age depends upon the child. Jimmy...KD5QHH... New home page, http://www.podsim.us MSN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:49 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Maybe I could put one on my kid and make my turns based on how loud he yelps? :) Perhaps not. On a more serious note, how old is old enough to start mowing the lawn? What kind of safety instructions should I be handing out? Jennifer - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Getting a Trekker or other GPS system for mowing the lawn is a bit extravagant. Might as well get a robotic lawn mower at that point. But it might work. Here's a much cheaper way, but doubt you will like the solution. Just do one of those invisible fences for dogs. Then where the receiver on your arm. Whenever you get close to the edge of the field, it would shock the hell out of you. They are distance modulated as well, so you could tell how close you are getting to the edge by the strength of the shock you are receiving. *GRIN* -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dr25%40andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors
a bluddy gud ider thair give that man a meddle - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Getting a Trekker or other GPS system for mowing the lawn is a bit extravagant. Might as well get a robotic lawn mower at that point. But it might work. Here's a much cheaper way, but doubt you will like the solution. Just do one of those invisible fences for dogs. Then where the receiver on your arm. Whenever you get close to the edge of the field, it would shock the hell out of you. They are distance modulated as well, so you could tell how close you are getting to the edge by the strength of the shock you are receiving. *GRIN* -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Robert, Thinking about that problem I have one possibility, assuming that there is nothing but field to mow. One day, quite a few years ago I was at the local football field when they were mowing. They had a small tractor towing two gang mowers cutting about a 15 foot path. They first went down the sideline then turned right and across to the other sideline. Now another right turn and down the sideline followed by a fourth right completing the perimeter. Then a smaller and smaller rectangle was cut. I only have some knowledge about Trekker the talking gps unit. I think it would be possible to create pois, points of interest around the field. When you would be lined up at the first corner you could have this unit direct you to the first poi which would be at the far end of the field. When you got there you could turn and have it direct you to the second point. In this free mode the unit will guide you like a compass. Following this type of pattern you should be able to cut the field and at the end have it direct you to the starting point. Lenny - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Doubt it, we're talking a couple of acres. I'll look into it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Robert: I don't know how much ground you're talking about, but I suspect you're going to have problems in terms of missing patches of grass. I'm totally blind, and I have driven a lot of small vehicles, asphalt rollers, front-end loaders, tracked bulldozers and small tractors. I did this mostly in equipment yards I owned, and only once did I put a backhoe through a plate glass window, and hey, that could have happened to anybody who wasn't watching where they were going. The problem for me was the noise. I had a little bobcat with a Koehler engine on it, and I could actually use that pretty well since it was quiet. I also used to towe air compressers and other wheeled equipment with a small tractor, and I was OK at it except when trying to back equipment into tightish spaces. Would it be possible to use one of the new robotic mowers on your place? I don't know how powerful they are or how long they can run, but if all you want is mowing, this might be something to look into. Good luck. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 pm Subject: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Do any of you drive tractors? This place is just too much to mowe with a standard lawn mower. So we're looking at tractors and I'm wondering if there's any feasible way a blind person can use it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors
Hey that's an interesting idea. I was thinking something similar but a little more low tech. Getting a large quantity of clothesline around the perimeter, and just doing a grid pattern based on that. Eitehr that or getting some guidance by walky talky. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Hi Robert, Thinking about that problem I have one possibility, assuming that there is nothing but field to mow. One day, quite a few years ago I was at the local football field when they were mowing. They had a small tractor towing two gang mowers cutting about a 15 foot path. They first went down the sideline then turned right and across to the other sideline. Now another right turn and down the sideline followed by a fourth right completing the perimeter. Then a smaller and smaller rectangle was cut. I only have some knowledge about Trekker the talking gps unit. I think it would be possible to create pois, points of interest around the field. When you would be lined up at the first corner you could have this unit direct you to the first poi which would be at the far end of the field. When you got there you could turn and have it direct you to the second point. In this free mode the unit will guide you like a compass. Following this type of pattern you should be able to cut the field and at the end have it direct you to the starting point. Lenny - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Doubt it, we're talking a couple of acres. I'll look into it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Robert: I don't know how much ground you're talking about, but I suspect you're going to have problems in terms of missing patches of grass. I'm totally blind, and I have driven a lot of small vehicles, asphalt rollers, front-end loaders, tracked bulldozers and small tractors. I did this mostly in equipment yards I owned, and only once did I put a backhoe through a plate glass window, and hey, that could have happened to anybody who wasn't watching where they were going. The problem for me was the noise. I had a little bobcat with a Koehler engine on it, and I could actually use that pretty well since it was quiet. I also used to towe air compressers and other wheeled equipment with a small tractor, and I was OK at it except when trying to back equipment into tightish spaces. Would it be possible to use one of the new robotic mowers on your place? I don't know how powerful they are or how long they can run, but if all you want is mowing, this might be something to look into. Good luck. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 pm Subject: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Do any of you drive tractors? This place is just too much to mowe with a standard lawn mower. So we're looking at tractors and I'm wondering if there's any feasible way a blind person can use it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links __ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors
Just to reitterate about the accuracy and repeatability of gps, it's minimum of 30 feet. If the field is such that missing a corner by that much doesn't matter, then the system might work. I'd do my best to try before buy. tom fowle
Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors
Robert: I don't know how much ground you're talking about, but I suspect you're going to have problems in terms of missing patches of grass. I'm totally blind, and I have driven a lot of small vehicles, asphalt rollers, front-end loaders, tracked bulldozers and small tractors. I did this mostly in equipment yards I owned, and only once did I put a backhoe through a plate glass window, and hey, that could have happened to anybody who wasn't watching where they were going. The problem for me was the noise. I had a little bobcat with a Koehler engine on it, and I could actually use that pretty well since it was quiet. I also used to towe air compressers and other wheeled equipment with a small tractor, and I was OK at it except when trying to back equipment into tightish spaces. Would it be possible to use one of the new robotic mowers on your place? I don't know how powerful they are or how long they can run, but if all you want is mowing, this might be something to look into. Good luck. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 pm Subject: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Do any of you drive tractors? This place is just too much to mowe with a standard lawn mower. So we're looking at tractors and I'm wondering if there's any feasible way a blind person can use it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Doubt it, we're talking a couple of acres. I'll look into it though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Robert: I don't know how much ground you're talking about, but I suspect you're going to have problems in terms of missing patches of grass. I'm totally blind, and I have driven a lot of small vehicles, asphalt rollers, front-end loaders, tracked bulldozers and small tractors. I did this mostly in equipment yards I owned, and only once did I put a backhoe through a plate glass window, and hey, that could have happened to anybody who wasn't watching where they were going. The problem for me was the noise. I had a little bobcat with a Koehler engine on it, and I could actually use that pretty well since it was quiet. I also used to towe air compressers and other wheeled equipment with a small tractor, and I was OK at it except when trying to back equipment into tightish spaces. Would it be possible to use one of the new robotic mowers on your place? I don't know how powerful they are or how long they can run, but if all you want is mowing, this might be something to look into. Good luck. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 pm Subject: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Do any of you drive tractors? This place is just too much to mowe with a standard lawn mower. So we're looking at tractors and I'm wondering if there's any feasible way a blind person can use it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] tractors
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Dear Robert: I drove my father's small Ford tractor as a young man, even though my vision was fading fast. Now that I have lost all vision, I am only willing to drive a tractor when a sighted person is on the tractor with me, giving me directions. I would suggest that you buy a new model with a cab, air-conditioning and a good stereo, and then try and keep your lady friends from wanting to mow your lawn. You can also get one with GPS, for those blond friends, who need help figuring out where in your lawn they are at a given time. When you tire of the new toy, give me a call, and I will see if I can come to your rescue by taking it off your hands. Yours Truly, Clifford Wilson - Original Message - From: Robert Riddle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] tractors Do any of you drive tractors? This place is just too much to mowe with a standard lawn mower. So we're looking at tractors and I'm wondering if there's any feasible way a blind person can use it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3296 (20080724) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
