RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-02 Thread Don H
If it is actually a incoming water line that means the water is flowing into
the house so it would be impossible and undesirable to put salt or anything
else in the line.

For roots to be in the line would mean that there is a hole in the line
which means water would be leaking out into the soil.   In this case the
root would grow towards the moisture but not go into the pipe.  The more
likely cause of a plugged water line is Calcium, other minerals or even good
old rust.  

In these cases the water line needs to be replaced.  Old galvanized pipe is
the most likely to get clogged.  Plastic or copper are a much better choice.

 

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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

 

  

No, it's the main water line coming in to her home. 

Steve  Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend. 
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

I am assuming that you are speaking of a sewer line and not a water line.
Doing the salt thing doesn't help a lot. Copper Sulfate works better if you
can find a source for it. The best thing to do is figure out where the pipe
is cracked or broken and repair it. I once had a sewer line that had a very
small crack in it that allowed a root not much bigger than a pencil lead
into the pipe. That little root then completely filled a five inch pipe
completely full of roots for over six feet.

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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

Hi All,

I have a co-worker that had to have some water lines coming in to her home
repaired because of roots growing in to the water lines. They had a friend
to tell her that if you pour a box of salt down the drain every month, this
will prevent this from happening. Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks in
advance!

Steve  Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend. 
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-02 Thread Don H
Well if you have to have someone come out and clean it out they can tell you
how far they had to go out to get to the roots.  Some services have a camera
they put into the line that can tell you exactly how far and how many bends
they had to go around to get to it.  Of course this all costs money.  In my
case it was a root in the line going to my septic tank which was only about
10 feet long so I just started digging and found it.

 

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On Behalf Of Alan  Terrie Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:24 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

 

  

Don,

This sounds like a good suggestion, but how would an average homeowner be
able to detect where they had a crack in their sewer line between the house
and street (or if in country septic system)

Al
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Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:15 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

I am assuming that you are speaking of a sewer line and not a water line.
Doing the salt thing doesn't help a lot. Copper Sulfate works better if
you
can find a source for it. The best thing to do is figure out where the
pipe
is cracked or broken and repair it. I once had a sewer line that had a
very
small crack in it that allowed a root not much bigger than a pencil lead
into the pipe. That little root then completely filled a five inch pipe
completely full of roots for over six feet.

_

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On Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:08 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

Hi All,

I have a co-worker that had to have some water lines coming in to her home
repaired because of roots growing in to the water lines. They had a friend
to tell her that if you pour a box of salt down the drain every month,
this
will prevent this from happening. Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks in
advance!

Steve  Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend.
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Don H
I am assuming that you are speaking of a sewer line and not a water line.
Doing the salt thing doesn't help a lot.  Copper Sulfate works better if you
can find a source for it.  The best thing to do is figure out where the pipe
is cracked or broken and repair it.  I once had a sewer line that had a very
small crack in it that allowed a root not much bigger than a pencil lead
into the pipe.  That little root then completely filled a five inch pipe
completely full of roots for over six feet.

 

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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:08 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

 

  

Hi All,

I have a co-worker that had to have some water lines coming in to her home
repaired because of roots growing in to the water lines. They had a friend
to tell her that if you pour a box of salt down the drain every month, this
will prevent this from happening. Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks in
advance!

Steve  Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend. 
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003 





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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins
Don,

This sounds like a good suggestion, but how would an average homeowner be
able to detect where they had a crack in their sewer line between the house
and street (or if in country septic system)

Al
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[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Don H
  Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:15 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line



  I am assuming that you are speaking of a sewer line and not a water line.
  Doing the salt thing doesn't help a lot. Copper Sulfate works better if
you
  can find a source for it. The best thing to do is figure out where the
pipe
  is cracked or broken and repair it. I once had a sewer line that had a
very
  small crack in it that allowed a root not much bigger than a pencil lead
  into the pipe. That little root then completely filled a five inch pipe
  completely full of roots for over six feet.

  _

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
  Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:08 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

  Hi All,

  I have a co-worker that had to have some water lines coming in to her home
  repaired because of roots growing in to the water lines. They had a friend
  to tell her that if you pour a box of salt down the drain every month,
this
  will prevent this from happening. Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks in
  advance!

  Steve  Shannon Cook
  Today I married my best friend.
  The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
  October 11, 2003

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Steve Shannon Cook
No, it's the main water line coming in to her home. 


Steve  Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend.  
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003 

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:15 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

I am assuming that you are speaking of a sewer line and not a water line.
Doing the salt thing doesn't help a lot.  Copper Sulfate works better if you
can find a source for it.  The best thing to do is figure out where the pipe
is cracked or broken and repair it.  I once had a sewer line that had a very
small crack in it that allowed a root not much bigger than a pencil lead
into the pipe.  That little root then completely filled a five inch pipe
completely full of roots for over six feet.

 

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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:08 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

 

  

Hi All,

I have a co-worker that had to have some water lines coming in to her home
repaired because of roots growing in to the water lines. They had a friend
to tell her that if you pour a box of salt down the drain every month, this
will prevent this from happening. Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks in
advance!

Steve  Shannon Cook
Today I married my best friend. 
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003 





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Bob Kennedy
I would bet they are the older clay drain lines.  It isn't unusual for roots to 
break through the pipes, and eventually they will need replacing.  I've heard 
all kinds of home remedies if you will for keeping drain lines open but can't 
vouch for any of them.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve  Shannon Cook 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:07 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line



  Hi All,

  I have a co-worker that had to have some water lines coming in to her home
  repaired because of roots growing in to the water lines. They had a friend
  to tell her that if you pour a box of salt down the drain every month, this
  will prevent this from happening. Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks in
  advance!

  Steve  Shannon Cook
  Today I married my best friend. 
  The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
  October 11, 2003 



  

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Dan Rossi
If it is the main water line coming into the house, you can only fix it. 
Anything that you would dump down the drain would kill the roots in the 
sewer line.  You can't dump anything down the incoming water line, it 
don't work like that.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Brice Mijares
Water lines and sewage are two different animals.  Pouring salt down the 
drain goes out the sewage pipe.  If roots worked it way in the the main 
water  line coming into the house there would be evidence where the roots 
are entering the line due to the constant water  pressure. 


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread RJ
I owned a old home that had clay orange pipe for the main sewer line. Use to 
flush a cup of rock salt down the commode  every so often, it did retard the 
root growth, but every 4 to 5 years I would rent a power snake and root the 
roots out. So the salt isn't a cure all and neither is the acid.
RJ
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Bob Kennedy
I'm hoping they aren't talking about the incoming line.  That is under a good 
bit of pressure and you'll have a sink hole from hell in your yard...  

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:31 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line



  If it is the main water line coming into the house, you can only fix it. 
  Anything that you would dump down the drain would kill the roots in the 
  sewer line. You can't dump anything down the incoming water line, it 
  don't work like that.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Jennifer Jackson
I would think that if no water in the house was running and the water meter was 
still registering water flow, you would know you have a leak somewhere.  
Plumbers are not cheap either.  I just spent about a thousand dollars on my 
plumbing and a couple of thousand in two other insurance deductibles this year 
on plumbing problems.  The floor of my shower is still gone and I have not 
looked into what that will cost, and my painted concrete floors have serious 
damage that is filled in, but not smoothed and painted yet. *sigh*

Thank goodness for friends though.  After I paid the plumber about $500 to 
locate and diagnose the problem, some friends of ours came and did the work 
with my husband.  The estimate for having the professionals do it was well over 
$5000 and we spent only several hundred on equipment rental, replacement parts, 
beer, and pizza. *smile*


Jennifer
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  From: Brice Mijares 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line



  Water lines and sewage are two different animals. Pouring salt down the 
  drain goes out the sewage pipe. If roots worked it way in the the main 
  water line coming into the house there would be evidence where the roots 
  are entering the line due to the constant water pressure. 

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

2010-06-01 Thread Don H
If a water line has a hole in it you will eventually have a very wet spot in
the yard.  thus you could locate the leak.  But again if the leak was so
small only to place moisture in the ground and not come to the surface the
roots would grow to that moist spot but not grow into the pipe.  Similar to
the water flowing out of the laterals of a septic system.  The roots will
normally grow up to the moisture and stop and not enter the lateral pipes
that are by design full of rather large holes.

In the case of a small hole in a sewer line the moisture would not flow out
consistently so the root would enter the hole to access the moisture.

 

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On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:48 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Roots In Water Line

 

  

Water lines and sewage are two different animals. Pouring salt down the 
drain goes out the sewage pipe. If roots worked it way in the the main 
water line coming into the house there would be evidence where the roots 
are entering the line due to the constant water pressure. 

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