Re: [board-discuss] new BoD call time due to daylight saving time

2013-03-31 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2013-03-30 18:09:


www.google.com CET enter


I have given up on that for certain things. ;-)


Well, the issue here is that UTC, of course, does not have that funky
'daylight-saving' thing... so if you pick UTC then you will have to
ask for a vote like this 2twice a year for the foreseable future...
Note: you can announce the time in UTC but still have an agreement
that the time is _based_ on a CET time... so that you won;t have to do
a vote for a 'change' twice a year.


As we need to have approved the formal voting for the new time until 
Wednesday's call, and given it's Easter holidays - how about I simply 
afterwards make another formal vote, that includes both times, like 
from Nov to Mar it's 1600 UTC and from Mar to Nov it's 1500 UTC? That 
way, we keep UTC, but avoid voting every 6 months.


Florian



Re: [board-discuss] new BoD call time due to daylight saving time

2013-03-31 Thread Olivier Hallot
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Hi

Em 29-03-2013 14:09, Norbert Thiebaud escreveu:
 may I suggest, to avoid that twice-yearly dance, to set the time based
 on CET once and for all.. rather than UTC with 2 adjustment a yer when
 CET switch in and out of DST.
 
 Norbert

IIRC, the planet has 2 hemispheres divided by the equator.

I know when I have my DST settings, but I almost never know when are the
European DST settings. So either I am -3 hours CET or -5 hours CET with
some weeks at -4 hours CET twice a year.

UTC is very handy, believe me.

Happy Easter

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Re: [board-discuss] new BoD call time due to daylight saving time

2013-03-31 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Olivier Hallot
olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 UTC is very handy, believe me.

Sure I find the whole DST mess stupid to start with...

but... _practically_ the meeting time is adjusted so that it always
occurs at the same CET time. so the announce could be made using UTC
for convenience, but in fact that UTC time has changed and will change
according to the DST setting of CET... so instead of figuring out how
many hours behind 3,4,5 you are from CET, you have to pay attention to
the specific UTC time of the meeting, which will vary up to 2 hours
depending on the specific date of the meeting.

Note:
1/ I re-iterate that the reference time can be a certain CET time, and
yet the announce can contain UTC time for convenience
2/ And the end of the day that was just a suggestion... that I made
because we were running into the same problem with ESC meeting... I
have no strong feeling about it... especially for a meeting that I
rarely attend to start with :-)

Norbert