Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
BoD is always busy so let's focus on the relevant part: do or don't. My 
understanding was the same as KJ's, nevertheless I'm happy to make an 
elaborated proposal when there is a good likelihood for acceptance.

On 19.11.18 12:43, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> I strongly support the request for a TDF specific logo/icon, while I
> don't think we should reopen the mascot topic because of the comments we
> have received during the last Reddit AMA, which clearly show that there
> would be flames from a group not involved in the community but vocal
> enough to disrupt our process.
> 
> On 19/11/2018 10:14, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>> I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question was 
>> if we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create something 
>> more special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I received 
>> a request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, somehow.
> 

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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
Happy to have green light from the board to continue with a) another MIME 
icon/different TDF branding topic and b) restarting the mascot thing. Would 
discuss the procedure with team and ESC, of course.

On 19.11.18 12:07, Simon Phipps wrote:
> I agree but I was considering just the decision-making aspect rather than the 
> implementation.
> 
> {Terse? Mobile!}
> 
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 12:04 Franklin Weng   wrote:
> 
> Besides ESC I would suggest to get some more professional visual 
> designers into this topic.
> 
> Simon Phipps  > 於 2018年11月19日 週一 下午6:36寫道:
> 
> Since this primarily affects the software would it not be a topic for 
> the ESC?
> 
> {Terse? Mobile!}
> 
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 11:32 Heiko Tietze   wrote:
> 
> I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. 
> Question was if we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create 
> something more special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I 
> received a request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, 
> somehow.
> 
> On 18.11.18 21:20, Marina Latini wrote:
> > Dear Community,
> > the board will meet again
> >
> >      on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
> >
> > We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at
> >      https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard
> > or at
> >      https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback.
> >
> >
> > 
> > Public part
> >
> > 1) LibreOffice Online for other organizations
> >
> > 2) FOSDEM meeting and agenda
> >
> > 3) quarterly reports
> >
> > 
> >
> > If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply 
> to this
> > message and join us during the meeting.
> >
> > ATB,
> > Marina
> >
> 
> -- 
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> Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Simon Phipps
The BOD would likely need to approve whatever the ESC proposes, sure.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:46 AM K-J LibreOffice 
wrote:

> Am 19.11.2018 um 11:35 schrieb Simon Phipps:
> > Since this primarily affects the software would it not be a topic for
> > the ESC?
>
> As the brand and all things around that are also legal stuff, the BoD
> has to say nothing about it?
>
> As the ESC only "provides *technological* guidance on stratetic matters"
> [1] and has skills across development [2] I don't know if this is the
> right place to decide about legal stuff.
>
> But perhaps I'm wrong.
>
> [1]
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Organization#Engineering_Steering_Committee_.28ESC.29
> [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
>
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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread K-J LibreOffice
Am 19.11.2018 um 11:35 schrieb Simon Phipps:
> Since this primarily affects the software would it not be a topic for
> the ESC?

As the brand and all things around that are also legal stuff, the BoD
has to say nothing about it?

As the ESC only "provides *technological* guidance on stratetic matters"
[1] and has skills across development [2] I don't know if this is the
right place to decide about legal stuff.

But perhaps I'm wrong.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Organization#Engineering_Steering_Committee_.28ESC.29
[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC

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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Italo Vignoli
I strongly support the request for a TDF specific logo/icon, while I
don't think we should reopen the mascot topic because of the comments we
have received during the last Reddit AMA, which clearly show that there
would be flames from a group not involved in the community but vocal
enough to disrupt our process.

On 19/11/2018 10:14, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question was if 
> we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create something more 
> special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I received a 
> request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, somehow.

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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Simon Phipps
I agree but I was considering just the decision-making aspect rather than
the implementation.

{Terse? Mobile!}

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 12:04 Franklin Weng  Besides ESC I would suggest to get some more professional visual designers
> into this topic.
>
> Simon Phipps  於 2018年11月19日 週一 下午6:36寫道:
>
>> Since this primarily affects the software would it not be a topic for the
>> ESC?
>>
>> {Terse? Mobile!}
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 11:32 Heiko Tietze >
>>> I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question
>>> was if we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create
>>> something more special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And
>>> I received a request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same
>>> topic, somehow.
>>>
>>> On 18.11.18 21:20, Marina Latini wrote:
>>> > Dear Community,
>>> > the board will meet again
>>> >
>>> >  on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
>>> >
>>> > We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at
>>> >  https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard
>>> > or at
>>> >  https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > Public part
>>> >
>>> > 1) LibreOffice Online for other organizations
>>> >
>>> > 2) FOSDEM meeting and agenda
>>> >
>>> > 3) quarterly reports
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> > If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply to this
>>> > message and join us during the meeting.
>>> >
>>> > ATB,
>>> > Marina
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Heiko Tietze
>>> UX designer
>>> Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509
>>>
>>>
>
> --
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> 中華民國軟體自由協會理事長
> LibreOffice 導入專家
> LibreOffice 法人代表文件基金會董事、認證委員會委員
> KDE 協會成員、歐洲自由軟體基金會成員
>


Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Franklin Weng
Besides ESC I would suggest to get some more professional visual designers
into this topic.

Simon Phipps  於 2018年11月19日 週一 下午6:36寫道:

> Since this primarily affects the software would it not be a topic for the
> ESC?
>
> {Terse? Mobile!}
>
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 11:32 Heiko Tietze 
>> I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question
>> was if we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create
>> something more special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And
>> I received a request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same
>> topic, somehow.
>>
>> On 18.11.18 21:20, Marina Latini wrote:
>> > Dear Community,
>> > the board will meet again
>> >
>> >  on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
>> >
>> > We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at
>> >  https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard
>> > or at
>> >  https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback.
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> > Public part
>> >
>> > 1) LibreOffice Online for other organizations
>> >
>> > 2) FOSDEM meeting and agenda
>> >
>> > 3) quarterly reports
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply to this
>> > message and join us during the meeting.
>> >
>> > ATB,
>> > Marina
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Heiko Tietze
>> UX designer
>> Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509
>>
>>

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LibreOffice 導入專家
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Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Simon Phipps
Since this primarily affects the software would it not be a topic for the
ESC?

{Terse? Mobile!}

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 11:32 Heiko Tietze  I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question was
> if we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create something
> more special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I
> received a request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic,
> somehow.
>
> On 18.11.18 21:20, Marina Latini wrote:
> > Dear Community,
> > the board will meet again
> >
> >  on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
> >
> > We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at
> >  https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard
> > or at
> >  https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback.
> >
> >
> > 
> > Public part
> >
> > 1) LibreOffice Online for other organizations
> >
> > 2) FOSDEM meeting and agenda
> >
> > 3) quarterly reports
> >
> > 
> >
> > If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply to this
> > message and join us during the meeting.
> >
> > ATB,
> > Marina
> >
>
> --
> Dr. Heiko Tietze
> UX designer
> Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509
>
>


Re: [board-discuss] Public agenda for TDF board web meeting on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time

2018-11-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
I'd like to ask again for a decision regarding the MIME icon. Question was if 
we can find a more appearing icon for LibreOffice or create something more 
special for TDF (the brand is too close to the product). And I received a 
request to restart the mascot topic. Belongs to the same topic, somehow.

On 18.11.18 21:20, Marina Latini wrote:
> Dear Community,
> the board will meet again
> 
>  on Friday, November 23rd, at 1400, Berlin time
> 
> We'll meet using our own Jitsi instance at
>  https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard
> or at
>  https://meet.jit.si/TDFBoard **ONLY** as fallback.
> 
> 
> 
> Public part
> 
> 1) LibreOffice Online for other organizations
> 
> 2) FOSDEM meeting and agenda
> 
> 3) quarterly reports
> 
> 
> 
> If you have something to discuss with the board, please, reply to this
> message and join us during the meeting.
> 
> ATB,
> Marina
> 

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UX designer
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