Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
 Ronn!Blankenship wrote:


FWIW, I also have some archives somewhere, though they don't go back 
quite as far, as I didn't join the list as early as Steve.  They are 
free of posts from other lists, though.  Lemme know if anyone cares.


I am.  And btw, thanks, Steve...

Anyone else?  Julia?

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Re: [Listref] Cocoa antioxidants

2003-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson


On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote:

 Julia Thompson wrote:
 
 On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote:
 
   
 
 Debbi
 who found that, when camping, instant hot cocoa is
 pretty good with a dollop of peppermint schnapps... :}
 
 
 
 Don't tempt me.  :)
 
  Julia
 
 off alcohol for awhile
 
 When I was still nursing Tom, I used to drink one or two glasses of dark 
 ale a day (Heineken* dark that is). It was very soothing and since there 
 are a lot of sugars in it, it was also very nourishing. I wouldn't have 
 thought of it myself but the midwife highly recommended it... grin.

My mom was given similar advice while nursing me.  So was the mother of a 
friend of mine.  But these days in the US they're saying no alcohol.  
One reason, I think, is that alcohol is mildly dehydrating and dehydration 
is the last thing you need while you're making milk.

I'll probably go back to the occasional drink sooner this time around.  I 
would *really* like a good margarita.  Maybe in January.

 * Yeah shoot me. I voluntarily drank Heineken and I liked it. But only 
 the dark ale, their pilsener you can keep.

Darker beers are better, IMO.  (So, please don't offer me a Corona, OK, 
folks?)  I think they also have more of the stuff that's in beer that's 
good for you, as well.  (IIRC some of those things are antioxidants)

Julia

but Chuck drank the last Shiner Bock and all we have now is the stuff my 
mom bought when she was here, which *isn't* dark, so I won't be tempted by 
the beer in the fridge

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Re: Education

2003-11-19 Thread G. D. Akin
Damon Agretto wrote:

 Hi all,

 My job offers educational reimbursement that I am
 seriously considering to use to go for a Masters
 degree, in order to break the cycle of underemployment
 I'm in. We recently picked up a new person in our
 department that has an MBA from the University of
 Phoenix (the O-L people). Are there any opinions on
 this sort of program? How is an MBA from them viewed
 by potential employers? How legitimate is it?

--

I have a friend who works for the Nevada Department of Education whose job
it is to research universities and make recommendations on accreditation.  I
asked him about the University of Phoenix a couple of months ago.  He said
UP is a good school and accredited.  They are not just an on-line school,
but have campuses in several locations.  They have a huge campus in Denver
(actually Aurora I think) near a huge technology center.

Their main focus is adults who work full-time and are looking to improve
their careers.

They have a PhD program which is quite rigorous, but it is focused on
adavancing you in your chosen career rather than training you for a life of
research and teaching.

They are quite expensive as well, but since most students get their
companies to pay tuition, they get away with it.

George A



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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote:

 On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:
 I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the (woefully
 inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know for sure, but I'll
 guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.
 
 April 1996.  I joined in the first or second week.

Time sure does fly! I still considered myself a relative late-comer till I
found my original subscription info dated beginning October 1996.

Makes me wonder just how many electrons have been used in this time for my
enjoyment.

Regards, Ray.

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Ray Ludenia
Doug Pensinger wrote:

 Jon Gabriel wrote:
 
 
 Would you be willing to email them -- completely at your convenience --
 to some of us (ok, me) if we made requests?
 
 
 I would like a copy as well, if it isn't too much trouble...
 
Me too.



Regards, Ray.

I think this is my first me too post ever :-)

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Nov 2003, at 11:49 am, Ray Ludenia wrote:

Julia Thompson wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:
I'm not sure how you would look it up.  The list pre-dates the 
(woefully
inadiquate) list archive at Yahoo.  Julia would know for sure, but 
I'll
guess it was somewhere around August, 1995.
April 1996.  I joined in the first or second week.
Time sure does fly! I still considered myself a relative late-comer 
till I
found my original subscription info dated beginning October 1996.

I'm just a newbie! I joined on 10 May 1998.

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Re: Explanation

2003-11-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Nov 2003, at 2:41 pm, Dan Minette wrote:
The reality of QM is that it is a systematic set of rules and equations
that provide a good fit to observation.  Computational methods allow 
us to
use things like perturbation theory to obtain predictions that would 
have
been impossible to obtain 100 years ago, even if the algorithms were 
clear.
So, computaiton is very worthwhile there.

Using  Comp. Sci images to interpret QM is legitimate; but by 
definition
this is doing metaphysics, not physics.


But that could be turned into a program, and then it wouldn't be 
metaphysics...

So, if someone wanted to do this,
then it would be interesting to see the systematic interpreation and
compare it to MWI, Copenhaugen, etc.
As an aside, by definition, Comp. Sci is based on non-so-hidden 
underlying
variables, which can fully be expressed in another system.  Physics 
hidden
variable theories have been falsified.  Does that help?
An OOP model wouldn't need the reality principle. It is meaningless to 
ask what a polymorphic OOP particle was when you weren't interacting 
with it.

And standard refactorings are 'Replace Parameter with Method', 'Replace 
Conditional with Polymorphism' and such to get rid of variables...

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Re: Education

2003-11-19 Thread Damon Agretto
 I have a friend who works for the Nevada Department
 of Education whose job
 it is to research universities and make
 recommendations on accreditation.  I
 asked him about the University of Phoenix a couple
 of months ago.  He said
 UP is a good school and accredited.  They are not
 just an on-line school,
 but have campuses in several locations.  They have a
 huge campus in Denver
 (actually Aurora I think) near a huge technology
 center.

Thanks, this is just the sort of info I was looking
for! It certainly gives me more options to think about
(and it might be more convenient too). I have 2 local
universities to choose from (Lehigh and Moravian) so
its not critical for me to do an O-L MBA program. 

Speakingof which, has anyone taken classes or done
such a program? What were your experiences?

Damon.

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Re: A year ago today...

2003-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson


On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Doug Pensinger wrote:

   Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 
 
  FWIW, I also have some archives somewhere, though they don't go back 
  quite as far, as I didn't join the list as early as Steve.  They are 
  free of posts from other lists, though.  Lemme know if anyone cares.
 
 
 I am.  And btw, thanks, Steve...
 
 Anyone else?  Julia?

I got everything I had to Nick at some point, actually.

Everything is on the hard drive in the computer that I *still* don't have 
a CPU fan for.  I'll put your request on the list of Things To Do Once I 
Can Run That Computer 24/7 Again.  :)

Julia

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[ADMIN] Strange bounces

2003-11-19 Thread Nick Arnett
A strange thing happened the last few days, perhaps related to the 
network problem that surfaced Sunday.  Several people were disabled from 
the list for no darn good reason.  Messages were bouncing because the 
server seemed to be confused about who it really is, so to speak, and 
thought that it couldn't deliver via our ISP's mail server, thinking 
that would be a loop.  I *may* have solved the problem, but I'm not 
certain.  Obviously, it's not a continuous thing, or everybody would be 
off the list, with the possible exception of me... ;-)

I've enabled the disabled subscriptions and will watch carefully for any 
futher such nonsense.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

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Weekly Chat Reminder

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Sloan II
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat
is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or
7 PM Greenwich time, so it's starting right now. There will
probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours
after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting
there:
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Re: [ADMIN] Strange bounces

2003-11-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Nov 2003, at 7:31 pm, Nick Arnett wrote:

A strange thing happened the last few days, perhaps related to the 
network problem that surfaced Sunday.  Several people were disabled 
from the list for no darn good reason.
...
Sorry for any inconvenience.
It did seem a bit quiet lately...

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Family Guy may return

2003-11-19 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2003-11-18-family-guy_x.htm

In a sign of the growing importance of DVD sales to Hollywood, 20th 
Century Fox is considering a plan to resume production of Family Guy, a 
sometimes crude animated comedy that the Fox network took off the air 
more than 18 months ago.

As many as 35 new episodes could return in January 2005, marking the 
first time that a canceled series has been revived based on strong DVD 
demand and ratings in syndication.

Fox Television Entertainment Group chairman Sandy Grushow said a 
decision is expected soon and called the series a late-blooming 
phenomenon that may have aired before its time.

A DVD set of the show's first 28 episodes released in April has sold 
nearly 1 million copies, making it this year's top-selling TV show and 
the No. 4 television title ever, according to Video Store magazine. A 
second collection, of 22 episodes, has sold 520,000 copies. And the 
series is Cartoon Network's most popular among adults.

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