Re: Barack Obama
On Aug 1, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Fifteen years ago I got into casual debates with very insightful friends about the then-burgeoning threat of China. (It was a much simpler time.) I proposed a solution: Give them the Internet. Let them play in the freedom of cyberspace, let them become dependent on the flow of information-rich sources such as Europe and the US. Not on the governmental level; saturate the *people* with this free exchange of Forbidden Ideas, and see how long China actually remains a threat to the Rest of the World™. Huh. And now we want to attack Iran, and we're babbling about Pakistan? Hmm. How much would it actually cost to wire everyone there to the net? I had a conversation with a smart Silicon Valley type yesterday who said that the US has chosen to project the wrong brand to the Middle East. That's not so very different from what you say here -- give 'em hospitals and the Internet and project a brand of helper instead of invader and you're likely to win more hearts and minds, and at the cost that I would wager is quite a bit smaller than the brand we're projecting now at the point of our many guns and missiles. And it wouldn't have cost us the growing shame of the Pat Tillman story, which is starting to smell more and more like they shot their own hero because he wouldn't read from their script. Here's my dream ticket. Gore and Kucinich. Think about that for a while. I will. Just finished watching Inconvenient Truth and nearly wept for what might have been done in this country with a leader who is not a whacko cowboy oilman puppet, but somebody who has apparently dreamt of a better world, not just more power, for most of his life. And Kucinich -- every time he speaks, I want to throw my vote away and show the world that he's not so far out that Americans can't support him. In fact, IIRC, I actually traded votes with someone in Ohio who _had_ to vote for Kerry (while I'm in solidly Blue-safe Northern California) so I could afford to vote for Kucinich on behalf of my Ohio vote-mate. It was an easy choice to make. Thanks for that hopeful thought, but I don't think the Vice President (Gore, that is, not the Dark Lord of the current infestation) wants to remain in a position to say I used to be the next President of the United States. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Barack Obama
Maybe. I'm not so sure. For one thing, the Taliban are not OBL; they're a separate group of Islamic extremists. Left only to themselves, I think the Taliban and the Qaeda would quickly kill one another in violent internecine conflict. It was conflation of the Taliban with the Qaeda that allowed Americans to be lulled and lied into a pointless war on two fronts. Further, I'm not sure at all that the US wants Osama so bad we'd be willing to invade yet another nation -- this one nuclear-capable. The pro-peace groundswell is mounting fast, and I think a lot of politicians have lost sight of just how tired the US is of war, and I think that a man or woman who stood up and said we'd rather have peace and end it, and get Osama quietly, would do pretty damn well. And -- here's the clincher -- even if it meant Osama would escape. If we ignore the figurehead and instead gut out the reasons for the Qaeda to exist, isn't that a hell of a fine turn-around? What good is OBL if he's left doddering in his caves and rambling insanely to no one, left without a stage on which to declaim any longer, bereft of followers? If that was the trade for ending the stupidity of al-Qaeda, I'd take it. Osama is one man. He is not the one who actually flew airplanes into anything; he is not the one who planted bombs in Madrid or London. If we remove the food, the organism dies; why seek the superfluous heart when we can starve the irreplaceable belly? Fifteen years ago I got into casual debates with very insightful friends about the then-burgeoning threat of China. (It was a much simpler time.) I proposed a solution: Give them the Internet. Let them play in the freedom of cyberspace, let them become dependent on the flow of information-rich sources such as Europe and the US. Not on the governmental level; saturate the *people* with this free exchange of Forbidden Ideas, and see how long China actually remains a threat to the Rest of the World. Huh. And now we want to attack Iran, and we're babbling about Pakistan? Hmm. How much would it actually cost to wire everyone there to the net? Unfortunately we haven't had a chance to see what the reaction would be; no prominent politician seems to be willing to trust the US people enough to actually give voice to what so many of us so obviously want. They'd rather drape and drip in the blood of the flag; they'd rather cant left in their speeches, when the left they're touting was the right just three decades ago. Patriotism appears indeed to be the last refuge of scoundrels. Obama's off my list. I'm waiting for others, Dem, Repub and cetera, to remove themselves similarly. Here's my dream ticket. Gore and Kucinich. Think about that for a while. gore would be my choice for a dark horse, if he decides to run, but that may only happens if hillary stunbles. i don't see kucinich as a possible veep. gore may have found a different role as doomsayer. the american people want to see osama held accountable, far more than saddam, who was a straw man. he ordered 9/11 and for that there must be closure. going into iran would be a huge mistake and the congress will not allow it. pakistan is a different story if the us were chasing al qaeda and went no further. it could bolster musharraf and help stem radical islam in pakistan. al qaeda is already global thanks to bush. we could have a shot at wiping out al qaeda's holdouts on the pakistan/afghanstan border. if we pull out of iraq it will be holy war between shiite and sunni. when the dust settles i doubt there will be many al qaeda remaining in iraq. i don't think the same thing will happen in afghanistan, we'll have to see, but i doubt if we'll leave afghanistan until the taliban and osama are destroyed. one thing for sure, this war on terror is benefiting china... jlm Knowledge is Power Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Barack Obama
Please use quotes when replying. On Aug 2, 2007, at 12:30 AM, jon louis mann wrote: gore would be my choice for a dark horse, if he decides to run, but that may only happens if hillary stunbles. It's a longshot. A very long shot. I don't see him running at all, but I sure as hell hope I'm wrong. the american people want to see osama held accountable, far more than saddam, who was a straw man. he ordered 9/11 and for that there must be closure. Saddam Hussein was a friend to the US until we decided he wasn't. There are photos of him shaking hands with and smiling at Donald Rumsfeld. OBL was trained by the US when Communist Russia existed; we taught him how to be an insurgent against a larger force ... and then our war-by-proxy with the USSR ended, more or less; what was OBL to do with his training then? We made both of these monsters. That is a fact. I don't think killing OBL is very important to most of the US now. Polls seem to show his death as being far behind settling issues such as ENDING the invasion of Iraq and creating universal health coverage. going into iran would be a huge mistake and the congress will not allow it. Yes, and maybe, in that order. Certainly attacking Iran would be stupid. Would Congress approve? Possibly not. But ... Is it up to them any more? Remember we had a rubber-stamp clusterfuck of retards who passed any declaration made by their idiot poster boy Bush in ’02 thru ’06. I am not confident that universal, unilateral war power was denied him. pakistan is a different story if the us were chasing al qaeda and went no further. But that is not how it would be SEEN by the rest of the world. Surely you understand that and the implications. if we pull out of iraq it will be holy war between shiite and sunni. It ALREADY IS a war between shi'ite and sunni. one thing for sure, this war on terror is benefiting china... And Halliburton. And, therefore, Cheney. Treason is not the word to describe what Bush has done, what he is. The word doesn't exist yet. How do you, in one word, explain the idea of traitor, coward, bully, opportunist and deluded cowboy freak? -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Barack Obama
On Aug 2, 2007, at 12:58 AM, Dave Land wrote: I had a conversation with a smart Silicon Valley type yesterday who said that the US has chosen to project the wrong brand to the Middle East. That's not so very different from what you say here -- give 'em hospitals and the Internet and project a brand of helper instead of invader and you're likely to win more hearts and minds, and at the cost that I would wager is quite a bit smaller than the brand we're projecting now at the point of our many guns and missiles. Yeah, that was what I had in mind. Lo those many years ago we weren't a military threat to China -- feh, we still aren't now; they outnumber us four to one -- the idea was to give them what they wanted. Well, what does a lot of the ME want? Not our freedom, as the Retard in Chief has claimed; rather, they want to have a little, oh I don't know, comfort maybe, The comfort derived from money, possibly; or the comfort of having a voice in world affairs. Barring that, I suspect they'd like to be able to kiss their children good night and not have to wonder if they'll wake in the morning to find their kids' bedrooms have been turned into a US-made crater. And it wouldn't have cost us the growing shame of the Pat Tillman story, which is starting to smell more and more like they shot their own hero because he wouldn't read from their script. Pat Tillman was killed by George W. Bush. The progression is obvious; no Iraq, no invasion; no invasion, no PT volunteering; no PT volunteering, no sortie in hostile territory; no sortie, no PT getting shot. Every man and woman dead in Iraq today is dead because of George W. Bush. Iraq was an *elective* war. It was a war Bush CHOSE TO EXECUTE. The responsibility for every dead man, woman and child rests on his retarded head. George W. Bush has killed more than 3700 American boys and girls, and probably ten times that number of Iraqis. He is a coward, he is a traitor to his nation, he is a murderer, and he is guilty of treason. He is, without question, the worst president in the history of the US, and he is a shame on all of us. Here's my dream ticket. Gore and Kucinich. Think about that for a while. I will. Just finished watching Inconvenient Truth and nearly wept for what might have been done in this country with a leader who is not a whacko cowboy oilman puppet, but somebody who has apparently dreamt of a better world, not just more power, for most of his life. You know, Gore is far from perfect. Why I like him is he's willing to say so. It's a refreshing change, isn't it? Thanks for that hopeful thought, but I don't think the Vice President (Gore, that is, not the Dark Lord of the current infestation) wants to remain in a position to say I used to be the next President of the United States. He may not have a choice. If he is not on the ballot in November, I think I might just write him in. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Barack Obama
On Aug 2, 2007, at 1:35 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: He may not have a choice. If he is not on the ballot in November, I think I might just write him in. In fact, I've done it: http://www.gore_cucinich.start-a-petition.com/ -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Lunar Influences
... blamed the full moon? It's a popular notion, but there's no cosmic connection ... ... a team of experts analyzed 500,000 industrial accidents in Austria between 2000 and 2004 and found no link to lunar activity. A friend of mine, a former nurse, thinks that increased urban light has ended the lunar effect. Her point is that most US hospital emergency rooms are in cities. She says that studies of them in the past quarter or half century have not shown an increase in arrivals during nights of the full moon. She thinks that in the past, when nighttime darkness varied dramatically during the month, you did have genuine `lunatics'. Two centuries ago at night, it was dark in Boston or London unless the full moon shown. Now, every city is bright every night. (Indeed, it appears that every place on the planet with people and some riches now suffers light pollution at night, including all of Austria.) The study in Austria tells us that currently there is no link, which her suggestion predicts. -- Robert J. Chassell GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Brineller quoted in New York Times
On 8/1/07, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 1, 2007, at 6:39 PM, John Garcia wrote: Gautam Mukunda is quoted in the July 31 NY Times piece on Chelsea Clinton. He comments about Chelsea's stint at McKinsey: [...] From what I know of her father, he has never been in any room in which he was not the center of attention, starting from before he became president. Chelsea has a deeply admirable ability to yield focus. What a nicely backhanded compliment. ...as only Guatam can hand them out. I wasn't much involved in his discussions on the list, and I didn't often agree with him, but I really do miss his contributions. Even when I didn't agree with him, I really had to think through my reasoning, because his reasoning was usually quite sound. This list always amazes me with discussions where people completely agree on the facts but differ 180 degrees on interpretation. -- Mauro Diotallevi Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now. -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Brineller quoted in New York Times
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, PAT MATHEWS wrote: She has a hedge fund job? Better get her resumes out - they are crashing like cheap pinatas at a birthday party. You have a way with words. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Barack Obama
On 8/1/07, jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US presidential candidate Barack Obama has said he would order military action against al-Qaeda in Pakistan without the consent of Pakistan's government. Diplomacy first, last and always. War is the last recourse of a failed negotiator. It is not the first option of anyone but socially-maladapted cowboys. That's what Obama said, but it isn't what Obama said. He said that he would use diplomacy, etc. but that as a last resort (and he was pretty specific about it being a last resort) that he would be tough and go after aQ in Pakistan with Pakistan's consent, in the unlikely event that such action would be needed. I guess that takes care of Obama's turn to be quoted out of context. Who's up next? -- Mauro Diotallevi Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now. -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Dog Shoots Owner in the Back in Memphis, Tennessee
Dog Shoots Owner in the Back in Memphis, Tennessee I saw this headline and the first thing I thought of was, Cool, a new Uplift story! Alas, it was not to be so. Here's a link to the actual article. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291687,00.html -- Mauro Diotallevi Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now. -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: After Midnight
Your kitty died? I'm sorry to hear that. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ __ The totem animals of Wall Street are the bull, the bear, the hog, and the ostrich. From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: After Midnight Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:08:02 -0500 That era started about 11:15 last night. I came in to eat some soup for lunch, then I have to return to trying to dig a hole in the drought-hardened soil in the back yard, which I started doing as soon as it became light enough to work this morning. Tears Maru --Ronn! :) Tom =^.^= , Spot (199296), Andy (198999), D.J. (1994±1?2003), and Midnight (19992007) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
After Midnight
That era started about 11:15 last night. I came in to eat some soup for lunch, then I have to return to trying to dig a hole in the drought-hardened soil in the back yard, which I started doing as soon as it became light enough to work this morning. Tears Maru --Ronn! :) Tom =^.^= , Spot (199296), Andy (198999), D.J. (1994±1?2003), and Midnight (19992007) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: After Midnight
On 8/2/07, Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That era started about 11:15 last night. [snip] Midnight (1999—2007) So sorry to hear that, Ronn. -- Mauro Diotallevi ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: After Midnight
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: That era started about 11:15 last night. I came in to eat some soup for lunch, then I have to return to trying to dig a hole in the drought-hardened soil in the back yard, which I started doing as soon as it became light enough to work this morning. Tears Maru I am sorry that you have lost a beloved cat. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Minneapolis Writers and Fans
You've all probably heard about the bridge collapse in Minneapolis. CNN currently says there are 4 confirmed dead, 79 injured, and 20 to 30 missing. For those of you who might have any friends in Minneapolis fandom, or for those who are fans of Minneapolis-based writers such as Lois Bujold, there is a page on livejournal where members of Minneapolis fandom are checking in to say they are OK. Currently, both Lois Bujold and Patricia Wrede are among those who have checked in and said they are fine. There is a nice long list of names on the first page, and then as of this writing, six pages of other folks checking in. http://community.livejournal.com/mnstf/94019.html -- Mauro Diotallevi ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: After Midnight
On 2 Aug 2007, at 19:08, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: That era started about 11:15 last night. I came in to eat some soup for lunch, then I have to return to trying to dig a hole in the drought-hardened soil in the back yard, which I started doing as soon as it became light enough to work this morning. Sad news. Commiseration Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. - Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
quotes
the american people want to see osama held accountable, far more than saddam, who was a straw man. osama ordered 9/11 and for that there must be closure. we had a rubber-stamp clusterfock of retards who passed any declaration made by their idiot poster boy Bush in 02 thru 06. I am not confident that universal, unilateral war power was denied him. that was because of the post 9/11 hysteria and the dems were afraid to be labeled. they are still skittish. i believe americans will dance in the streets when obl is dead or captured. i will make the celebration over saddam look like nothing. pakistan is a different story if the us were chasing al qaeda and went no further. But that is not how it would be SEEN by the rest of the world. Surely you understand that and the implications. i don't quite see it that way if we pulled out of iraq first. certainly not if we had never invaded iraq. if we pull out of iraq it will be holy war between shi'ite and sunni. It ALREADY IS a war between shi'ite and sunni. which saddam contained and the reason regime change wasn't an option after the gulf war. bush sr. did not want a shi'ite crescent. the idea was to give them what they wanted. Well, what does a lot of the ME want? ... the comfort of having a voice in world affairs. (sic) what they really want is to push israel into the sea... Pat Tillman was killed by George W. Bush. yes, and he may have been fragged for his outspoken opinion about iraq... i read he was shot in the head, three times, closely spaced. probably didn't know what hit him. Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
The Internet
Give them the Internet. Let them play in the freedom of cyberspace, let them become dependent on the flow of information-rich sources; saturate the *people* with this free exchange of Idea. How much would it actually cost to wire everyone there to the net? the US has chosen to project the wrong brand to the Middle East. -- give 'em hospitals and the Internet and project a brand of helper instead of invader and you're likely to win more hearts and minds, and at the cost that is quite a bit smaller.' there is a dark side, also, to the internet, dave. it has been a tool for spreading fear, hate and pure evil. the telephone, telegraph, radio, and television were all supposed to educate and enlighten, but the spread of cults, fundamental religion, terrorism, and disingenuous propaganda has also been aided by these devices. another word for the internet could be the DIS-information highway. it has been a portal for pornography, spam,and e-bay; promoting lust and greed. in other words, providing a medium for us to observe and participate in the collapse of civilization... a jaundiced perspective... Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Internet
On 8/2/07, jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a dark side, also, to the internet, dave. it has been a tool for spreading fear, hate and pure evil. the telephone, telegraph, radio, and television were all supposed to educate and enlighten, but the spread of cults, fundamental religion, terrorism, and disingenuous propaganda has also been aided by these devices. I still believe that it is a huge step forward, despite the negative stuff. I still stand by what I wrote in 1994 -- the essay that led to my friendship with David Brin: http://www.mccmedia.com/html/antinet.html Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Internet
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, jon louis mann wrote: I still believe that it is a huge step forward, despite the negative stuff. I still stand by what I wrote in 1994 -- the essay that led to my friendship with David Brin: do you have a link to that essay, nick? It was in the OP just after the colon. http://www.mccmedia.com/html/antinet.html Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
The Internet
I still believe that it is a huge step forward, despite the negative stuff. I still stand by what I wrote in 1994 -- the essay that led to my friendship with David Brin: do you have a link to that essay, nick? although i believe there is a dark side to the internet, i recognize that it has also been a powerful interactive tool for spreading peace, knowledge and beauty; even more so than fear, hate and greed. i also believe in the marketplace of ideas and would like to see virtual town halls at the local, state and national level to compete with and limit the power of special interests. one of the ways to encourage this platonic ideal of the electronic village is to implement free, wireless, public access to the internet, so citizens could interact with elected and appointed officials, and bureaucrats (on public websites) with input into issues that impact on human and global concerns. i would like to see world wide web accountability for corruption and incompetence of corporate, political, social, military, economic and religious institutions. i have run for public office eight times on a platform of participatory, electronic democracy. and once participated on a panel with dr. brin on a related topic. in the years since i began tilting at windmills, internet blogging has grown to have an enormous effect on the corporate media and other powerful interests, and provides funding to a variety of grassroots political campaigns, charities and causes, etc. jon Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Nick's essay
http://www.mccmedia.com/html/antinet.html fascinating topic. i can see why it caught dr. brin's attention. the article is still contemporary and goes beyond what toffler was saying in the third wave. i like the idea of two internets and even more. we have differnt cable, satellite and free t.v channels. i like the idea of having separate packages for commercial and porn sites, etc. people who want to exclude certain kinds of content can contain audience specific spam to people who subscribe to particular kinds of access. when i go to the library i head for the sf section, on direct tv i tivo only what i like to watch. we are so over saturated with different media we need better search functions to screen out anything toxic i don't want my son exposed to, for example. would we have to sacrifice privacy so interfaces like MySpace lock out predators, or will hackers remain one step ahead? any ideas where the world wide web will headed in 2010? tiny, wireless, voice activated, ipod like devices that do everything and are connected to a universal data bank by satellite? Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Nick's essay
http://www.mccmedia.com/html/antinet.html fascinating topic. i can see why it caught dr. brin's attention. the article is still contemporary and goes beyond what toffler was saying in the third wave. i like the idea of two internets and even more. we have differnt cable, satellite and free t.v channels. i like the idea of having separate packages for commercial and porn sites, etc. people who want to exclude certain kinds of content can contain audience specific spam to people who subscribe to particular kinds of access. when i go to the library i head for the sf section, on direct tv i tivo only what i like to watch. we are so over saturated with different media we need better search functions to screen out anything toxic i don't want my son exposed to, for example. would we have to sacrifice privacy so interfaces like MySpace lock out predators, or will hackers remain one step ahead? any ideas where the world wide web will headed in 2010? tiny, wireless, voice activated, ipod like devices that do everything and are connected to a universal data bank by satellite? Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Nick's essay
http://www.mccmedia.com/html/antinet.html fascinating topic. i can see why it caught dr. brin's attention. the article is still contemporary and goes beyond what toffler was saying in the third wave. i like the idea of two internets and even more. we have differnt cable, satellite and free t.v channels. i like the idea of having separate packages for commercial and porn sites, etc. people who want to exclude certain kinds of content can contain audience specific spam to people who subscribe to particular kinds of access. when i go to the library i head for the sf section, on direct tv i tivo only what i like to watch. we are so over saturated with different media we need better search functions to screen out anything toxic i don't want my son exposed to, for example. would we have to sacrifice privacy so interfaces like MySpace lock out predators, or will hackers remain one step ahead? any ideas where the world wide web will headed in 2010? tiny, wireless, voice activated, ipod like devices that do everything and are connected to a universal data bank by satellite? Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Brineller quoted in New York Times
On Aug 2, 2007, at 6:53 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: What a nicely backhanded compliment. ...as only Guatam can hand them out. I wasn't much involved in his discussions on the list, and I didn't often agree with him, but I really do miss his contributions. Yeah, me too, oddly enough; he drove me ape, but I did have to respect his ideas. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: After Midnight
On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:08 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Tears Maru Oh no. I know how that is. I know. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
