Re: SF reviews
On 2/6/08, jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone tell me which prozine or any other publication has the best reviews for hard sf? It is a bit of an odd question because publications will review the whole of SF, not just one subgenre. So even in a magazine with a good reviews section you might not get any hard SF reviews in a particular issue. Analog is the magazine with the reputation for concentrating on hard SF. However it also has the reputation of being the worst of the big three. Martin ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SF reviews
Try Locus. I've been a subscriber for 11 years. George A - Original Message - From: jon louis mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: SF reviews can anyone tell me which prozine or any other publication has the best reviews for hard sf? thanks, jlm Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irony
I've been married to a Korean woman for going on 35 years. Kimchi just ages. What you need is a kimchi refrigerator--they really have these and they work wonderfully. Kimchi keeps for much longer before attaining that state from which the phrase you're in deep kimchi arose. Of course, all kimchi eventually will eventually reach a certain pungency, at which point it is made into soup. Very good in the winter. I agree, the radish and turnip kimchis are champs when it comes to aroma. George A - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: Irony So why is that (Korean) Kimchi manages to stink up the whole kitchen even when it is in a (Korean. Completely airtight!) Lock'n'Lock box in the fridge? You've opened another one haven't you. It's completely stinking, it's going in the bin tomorrow if you haven't finished it - Mrs Wife. Actually I think this cut cabbage one stinks less than the horsetail radish one I tried before :-) Yum, Kimchi Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Due to a typographical error the entire arctic deployment had been issued Turkish pastries as headwear. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Polygamy
Two reasons besides patrilocality that males might be more valuable: Heavy labor it takes a lot of muscle mass - especially upper body muscle mass - to do. Nonmechanized warfare, ditto. So you want sons to push the ox-plow and sons to wield a sword. Never judge a book by its movie. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:48:11 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Polygamy hkhenson wrote: At 01:00 PM 2/4/2008, Alberto wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few others, became monogamous. It seems to be associated with settled agriculture but I don't know if there is a connection or why. I would guess that it's peace that doomed polygamy. There can't be polygamy unless there's more women than men, otherwise the men without women will revolt. This does not square with field anthropology. Polygamy is well known in cultures where female infanticide and distorted sex ratios are prevalent. Polygamy greatly exacerbated women's scarcity and direct and indirect male competition and conflict over them. Indeed, a cross-cultural study (Otterbein 1994: 103) has found polygamy to be ... Sorry to shoot down your thoughts. Please try again because I would really like to understand it and am clean out of ideas. Keith Keith-- Hi. This is interesting. First, just for clarification, do the studies have direct evidence of female infanticide, or do they deduce it from the skewed sex ratio? (There is some evidence that the ratio can be made to vary from the norm without infanticide. Just checking...) The part I have trouble with is why it would be in the parent's interest to have male children rather than females. In terms of number of descendants, it seems that females would actually be a better choice if the sex ratio was skewed. (Pretending that each female has 3 children, wouldn't it be better on the average to have a female child which gave 3 grandchildren, rather than a male child with a 1 in 10 chance of surviving to have a harem of 5 women, say? Since the male produces 0.1 * 5 * 3 = 1.5 grandchildren, on average.) So the argument would be that the parents are responding to social forces. For instance, that a female child costs them for its upbringing, but provides little return on investment, since she's going to go live with her husband's family anyway? (i.e. patrilocality) And the parents may even need to provide a dowry. Whereas grown male children will at least attempt to pay back their parents, and may even get rich? (I guess I have classical China in mind, or something.) Claiming social forces produce this effect doesn't really address the basic question, though. WHY is this way of organizing a society stable? In economic terms, a scarcity of women should make them more valuable. This would put them (or their parents) in a better bargaining position. So that instead of paying a dowry, parents gradually wind up being paid a bride price... ---David It takes a certain mindset to do this kind of analysis, doesn't it? : ) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: New Anonymous Vid
snip This Cult is Nothing but a psychotically driven pyramid scheme. Why are you, the news media. Afraid of discussing these matters? It is your duty to report on these matters. You are Failing in your Duty. Their activities make them an affront to freedom. Remember. All that is necessary. For the triumph of evil. Is that good men do nothing. This information is Everywhere. It is your Duty to expose it. I don't know about the USA, but the Co$ is pretty safe from the media here - the entire media is dominated by two men, and they have just gone into partnership. The more powerful of the two is one of the Co$ glamour boys. They don't control the media in Oz - they ARE the media in Oz. Cheers Russell C. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: In case I go silent . . .
On Feb 4, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: at first I thought that it was coming from outside, maybe the neighbor breaking up some limbs for disposal. Good lord, you live next to a mafia hit man? I've had the same kinds of symptoms, prior to switching to LCD land at home. (Still use CRTs at work for the higher quality images.) You'll need to replace your display, probably -- my experience is that voltage shorts aren't in the practice of healing themselves. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over nine years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of regulars over the years, but the chat goes on... and we want more recruits! Whether you're an active poster or a lurker, whether you've been a member of the list from the beginning or just joined today, we would really like for you to join us. We have less politics, more Uplift talk, and more light-hearted discussion. We're non-fattening and 100% environmentally friendly... -(_() Though sometimes marshmallows do get thrown. The Weekly Brin-L chat is scheduled for Wednesday 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time. There's usually somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. If no-one is there when you arrive just wait around a while for the next person to show up! If you want to attend, it's really easy now. All you have to do is send your web browser to: http://wtgab.demon.co.uk/~brinl/mud/ ..And you can connect directly from the NEW new web interface! -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ This message was sent automatically using launchd. But even if WTG is away on holiday, at least it shows the server is still up. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: New Anonymous Vid
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:48 AM Subject: Re: New Anonymous Vid Robe wrote: I'm not looking at exit polls myself, Looks good for a McCain/Huckster ticket. I think the actual election results are showing a change in the wind. I'm normally an optimist, but the deck is stacked against progressives. We all know about Rove and the Swiftboaters. They are masterful at exploiting fear and doubt. Corporate America is overwhelmingly Republican and that their pocket's are deep. And the press is not only not liberal, they're mostly either conservative or willfully ignorant. McCain showed a bit of his future strategy recently; he stressed the idea that if we leave Iraq we would be losers. He'll repeatedly use the words loose and losers when referring to the withdrawal plans of his opponent. Along with the reported success of the surge and under reporting on the part of the press, the war won't be the issue it should be. The economy might be an issue, but here McCain will emphasize his status as an outsider and will escape most of the blame. Hell he'll even be able to tell us that Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh hate him. He'll suck in the lions share of independent voters. There are lots of other factors; older people vote in larger numbers and are not only more conservative they're more susceptible to the Bradly effect. Although Obama would mobilize younger voters like never before, they still won't vote in the numbers necessary to make a difference. If he's the nominee then we have the Bradly effect, and if he isn't we'll have Hillary's huge negatives to deal with. And remember, the war is still an issue and that is enough that it can sink McCain if he doesn't change his attitude. Even conservatives are tired of this crap. I don't think so. I think conservatives still want to win the war and see the surge as a huge success. They will play on our dislike for losing and our fear of terrorism. They think we need a strong military presence in the Middle East, and they think that the strength of our country is due mostly to the strength of our military and that losing in Iraq would undermine our strength and our reputation. Do you remember about this time four years ago when JDG expressed his excitement at the inevitable nomination of Kerry? He know that the Dems had picked a candidate that could be beaten. Well, I'm guessing that while he isn't crazy about McCain, he's ecstatic about the possible opposition. I may be wrong. I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong. But I'm disparately worried that I'm not. If you think we've got this one sewn up, you better think again. Heh! It's funny.we are thinking about a lot of the same things and weighing them for consideration. Your concerns mirror mine quite closely. But I think you have to factor in how disheartened many conservatives are these days and it is getting worse for them. Only 2/3 as many Conservatives are voting in the primaries as are Liberals. I think a lot of Independents like Obama. A good sign. But consider a Republican win in November. McCain and Romney doesn't bother me too much as long as the Dems control Congress. McCain and Huckabee is bothersome in the extreme as I have an extreme dislike for Huckabees beliefs. The only one I actively dislike is Huckabee. xponent Constitutional Amendment Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: New Anonymous Vid
- Original Message - From: Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:44 AM Subject: Re: New Anonymous Vid snip This Cult is Nothing but a psychotically driven pyramid scheme. Why are you, the news media. Afraid of discussing these matters? It is your duty to report on these matters. You are Failing in your Duty. Their activities make them an affront to freedom. Remember. All that is necessary. For the triumph of evil. Is that good men do nothing. This information is Everywhere. It is your Duty to expose it. I don't know about the USA, but the Co$ is pretty safe from the media here - the entire media is dominated by two men, and they have just gone into partnership. The more powerful of the two is one of the Co$ glamour boys. They don't control the media in Oz - they ARE the media in Oz. Oz marches on the 10th are slated for Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, and Sidney. Let 'em try to keep it off the internets.G xponent Epic Raids Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Polygamy
At 01:00 PM 2/6/2008, David Hobby wrote: Keith wrote: This does not square with field anthropology. Polygamy is well known in cultures where female infanticide and distorted sex ratios are prevalent. Polygamy greatly exacerbated women's scarcity and direct and indirect male competition and conflict over them. Indeed, a cross-cultural study (Otterbein 1994: 103) has found polygamy to be ... Sorry to shoot down your thoughts. Please try again because I would really like to understand it and am clean out of ideas. Keith Keith-- Hi. This is interesting. First, just for clarification, do the studies have direct evidence of female infanticide, or do they deduce it from the skewed sex ratio? Both. It's robust. http://cniss.wustl.edu/workshoppapers/gatpres1.pdfhttp://cniss.wustl.edu/workshoppapers/gatpres1.pdf http://cniss.wustl.edu/workshoppapers/gatpres1a.pdf. (There is some evidence that the ratio can be made to vary from the norm without infanticide. Just checking...) The normal ration at birth is 105 males to 100 females. Because boys are more likely to die, the ratio is close to 1 to 1 by reproductive age. Evolutionary theory says that the ratio will be pulled back close to one because the less common sex then has a better chance of reproducing. (There are well understood exceptions.) The part I have trouble with is why it would be in the parent's interest to have male children rather than females. You can see a progression in Azar Gat's collected data. With the exception of China, the female infanticide cultures are hunter gatherer and/or warlike. And the more extreme the environmental problems get the more skewed the ratio. As a guess, such peoples value male hunters or warriors in the clan more than females. Females you can always steal from other groups if you have enough warriors to carry out the task. With the Chinese, I guess it's because the culture expects males to support old parents while the females leave home. It's really worth reading this http://www.econ.ucdavis.edu/faculty/gclark/papers/Capitalism%20Genes.pdf because the Malthusian era existed right up to 1800. In that time there was a tight coupling between the number babies women had and how long the average person could expect to live. Infanticide, especially of female infants, reduced the effective number. In terms of number of descendants, snip In that era, the average woman had 2 surviving children plus or minus a tiny fraction. It's weird, but Clark shows that in that time disease *improved* how well off people were on average. snip It takes a certain mindset to do this kind of analysis, doesn't it? : ) Definitely. If you like the Clark paper, I highly recommend his book Farewell to Alms. Lots of stuff the chew over there, especially since the predictions are for most of the world to return to Malthusian times. Have you looked at how thin the grain reserves are? Keith ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Christians Join Anonymous
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJwhB2e_hjA If this has any force of fact behind it, it is big news.from The Good News. G In any case Sci gets Pwned bigtime. Epic Lulz Epic Win xponent Go Jesus Go Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Christians Join Anonymous
Which of course suggests a subject line of Join Christians Anonymous Keep Moving. Nothing More To See Here Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Christians Join Anonymous
On 2/6/2008 9:32:30 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Which of course suggests a subject line of Join Christians Anonymous Keep Moving. Nothing More To See Here Maru Stealing Williams lines? G xponent Occurred To Me Also Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
