Muslims More Numerous Than Catholics

2008-03-31 Thread William T Goodall
Muslims More Numerous Than Catholics
By ALESSANDRA RIZZO
Associated Press Writer

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Islam has surpassed Roman Catholicism as the  
world's largest religion, the Vatican newspaper said Sunday.

For the first time in history, we are no longer at the top: Muslims  
have overtaken us, Monsignor Vittorio Formenti said in an interview  
with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. Formenti compiles the  
Vatican's yearbook.

He said that Catholics accounted for 17.4 percent of the world  
population - a stable percentage - while Muslims were at 19.2 percent.

It is true that while Muslim families, as is well known, continue to  
make a lot of children, Christian ones on the contrary tend to have  
fewer and fewer, the monsignor said.

Formenti said that the data refer to 2006. The figures on Muslims were  
put together by Muslim countries and then provided to the United  
Nations, he said, adding that the Vatican could only vouch for its own  
data.

When considering all Christians and not just Catholics, Christians  
make up 33 percent of the world population, Formenti said.

Spokesmen for the Vatican and the United Nations did not immediately  
return phone calls seeking comment Sunday.


If so many people believe it it must be true Maru

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atrocities. ~Voltaire.

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Re: Brin: Singularities, Nightmares, and Japanese Sci-Fi

2008-03-31 Thread Wayne Eddy
Hi, KZK, everyone,

Just because animation is so labour intensive now, doesn't mean that it will 
be in 5 or 10 or 15 years time.  In fact it almost certainly won't be.  To 
say that a dedicated professional studio will always be necessary to produce 
a quality animated features fails to take into account the current rate of 
technological progess.  Eventually expert systems will enable a single 
person to do the work of a team, and not long after that AI's will be 
capable of reading a script and then generating a feature film without any 
human input.

If on the first draft the Soro look a bit too skiny or Gubru plumage not 
quite what the doctor ordered, it will be a matter of saying so, and it will 
pop up a few possible variations on the screen and regenerate the whole film 
over night or in a few minutes depending how far into the future we are 
talking.

We may never travel faster than light, or time travel, but we will be able 
to see whatever we want to on the big screen.

Regards,

Wayne Eddy.

 Hate to burst your bubble Dr. Brin, but, no that is not going to happen.
  It takes enormous amounts of work (man hours) / CPU time and Money
 even to do small scale stuff.  You should watch the making of
 documentary for the sci-fi movie movie _Sky Captain and the World of
 Tomorrow_, about how much effort that 100% CGI (sans actors) movie took
 to make.  The guy who created the film was original working alone and
 thought that it would take him 10-15+ years to finish the product.
 Their are just way too many things for 1 person, or even a small team to
 handle.  That is why dedicated professional studio's will always be
 necessary for that kind of project.

 Also, how many serious animated drama's have come out of hollywood over
 the last ten years?  I can count on one hand with fingers left over.

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Re: The Troubled Homecoming Of The Marlboro Marine

2008-03-31 Thread Dave Land
On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On this point, you and I are in complete agreement. To be
 honest, I don't even know that I can walk a mile in my own
 shoes from a different time in my life: I try to think about
 what it was to be a scrawny teenager in Pittsburgh, or a
 father of a dying child... I'm not even sure I can honestly
 get hold of what _those_ people, who were me, were feeling.

 IIRC, it was hard at the time, too, at the times when I was around...
 which is not unusual.  One of the annoying, but somewhat life-
 preserving, things about trauma is that we don't really experience it
 all at once.  Gets us through the moments, but as the head of our CISM
 team says, it is also sort of timeless, always present from that time
 forward.

I don't suppose it helps that, like Blake Miller, I was self-medicating
through some parts of it...

Dave


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Re: Brin: Singularities, Nightmares, and Japanese Sci-Fi

2008-03-31 Thread Julia Thompson


On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Wayne Eddy wrote:

 Hi, KZK, everyone,

 Just because animation is so labour intensive now, doesn't mean that it 
 will be in 5 or 10 or 15 years time.  In fact it almost certainly won't 
 be.  To say that a dedicated professional studio will always be 
 necessary to produce a quality animated features fails to take into 
 account the current rate of technological progess.  Eventually expert 
 systems will enable a single person to do the work of a team, and not 
 long after that AI's will be capable of reading a script and then 
 generating a feature film without any human input.

Just seeing what the time decrease has been in 3 years for static digital 
art, I believe you.  Your timeline may not be quite right, but Moore's Law 
plus software improvements plus more software specially written for the 
purpose will lead there.

Julia

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Re: Brin: Singularities, Nightmares, and Japanese Sci-Fi

2008-03-31 Thread Alberto Monteiro

Julia Thompson wrote:

 Eventually expert 
 systems will enable a single person to do the work of a team, and not 
 long after that AI's will be capable of reading a script and then 
 generating a feature film without any human input.
 
 Just seeing what the time decrease has been in 3 years for static 
 digital art, I believe you.  Your timeline may not be quite right, 
 but Moore's Law plus software improvements plus more software 
 specially written for the purpose will lead there.

The Sims 2 (the only reason I still use Windows at home) includes
a very large range of movements, and they are triggered by
only a few commands. Maybe that's the near-future of animations:
a Sims2-like interface, and reprogram an action into more detail
whenever necessary.

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: Muslims More Numerous Than Catholics

2008-03-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Mail help needed . . .

2008-03-31 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Mar 30, 2008, at 4:04 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 Since after 10+ years of my using them both Netscape and Eudora are
 going away, I am at the point where I have to change both browser and
 mail programs.  I spent past several hours yesterday installing
 Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird and trying to import stuff from the
 old programs.  Firefox may be a satisfactory browser but I am quite
 disappointed in the lack of functionality of Thunderbird as a mail
 client compared with Eudora, so I thought I'd ask if anyone has any
 (obviously, non-M$) recommendations?

Thunderbird didn't turn me on much either. Have you looked at gmail?  
(Before you hate it, consider that the portability of your inbox is a  
definite bonus, even if the idea of their advertising bots' peering at  
your mail is a bit spooky.) FWIW gmail will also work with POP clients.

OSX's Mail is a tolerable client but doesn't have the refinements of  
Eudora, at least not out of the box; I don't know if there are third  
party apps that approach it.

--
Warren Ockrassa
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Web   | http://www.nightwares.com/

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Re: Muslims More Numerous Than Catholics

2008-03-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Muslims More Numerous Than Catholics

2008-03-31 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:58 PM Monday 3/31/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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I think that's one of the best responses anyone has ever made to one 
of WTG's posts on religion.  Well worth repeating, also . . .


. . . ronn!  :)



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