Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses
For God's sake (written as 日本酒), Japan had the earthquake of the century, it hit hard on the nuclear plants, and almost nothing happened. If this is not a very good security test on nuclear power, then I don't know what could be. Maybe hit a nuclear plant with an airplane? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses
On 11/26/2012 9:21 PM, Dan Minette wrote: Since we don't want this list dominated by carved Norwegian tourist shop items, I thought I'd throw out an argument. I have seen Germany and Japan shutting down nuclear energy, after the Greens have suceeded in making it non-PC. They had argued that the energy will be replaced by renewaable sources. But, reality has set in, and they are being replaced by fossil fuels. Indeed, the biggest rise in energy production will be coal plants. As http://www.climatecentral.org/news/more-than-1000-new-coal-plants-planned-wo rldwide-15279 shows, there are plans for 1.4 trillion watts of capacity being added now in process. This will add the equivalent of another China in greenhouse gas emissions, more than the US and EU combined. So, I'd argue that the Green's main effect on the environment has been to increase greenhouse gas emissions by making nuclear power politically unacceptable. Japan shutting down their reactor after the only nuclear damage having been radiation burns on the feet of workers who walked into radioactive water without checking and without boots (non-fatal) is amazing. It's like shutting down all automobile traffic after the 100 car pileup on Thanksgiving on I-10. I think you are correct in that. The only thing I would add is that the design of the Fukushima plant was very old, and that modern designs are even safer. This issue is not being resolved rationally, but then very few people approach problems that way. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwil...@zwilnik.com A damsel with a dulcimer in a vision once I saw. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Bruce Bartlett on how he saw the light
A conservative economist tells how he learned about epistemic closure and got banned from Fox. http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/revenge-of-the-reality-based-community/ Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwil...@zwilnik.com A damsel with a dulcimer in a vision once I saw. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses
I think you are correct in that. The only thing I would add is that the design of the Fukushima plant was very old, and that modern designs are even safer. Um, like the german SNR-300 design? Yup, the first reactor with a core catcher! Which was, of course, dismantled. Apparently, there's only one things the greens fear more than an unsafe reactor - and that's a safer one. Funny quote from a politician who opposed the SNR-300: If we had such technology, we'd have to export it, too.. That wouldn't have helped Fukushima; that was a 1960s design, while the SR-300 was a 1970s design, which was being upgraded though the 1980s. And now something completely different (warning: machine translation!): http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=detl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.planet-wissen.de%2Fnatur_technik%2Fenergie%2Ferdoel%2Finterview.jsp Yup, oil production is not as harmless as nuclear bomb tests. - Klaus -- Best regards, Klausmailto:k...@stock-consulting.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses
This issue is not being resolved rationally, but then very few people approach problems that way. Twitter compressed solution Really cheap power if we bootstrap by building one power satellite and use it for propulsion lasers to bring up parts for thousands. If anyone wants to know more, ask. Our political leaders don't need solutions, they need fear. Once you control voters by fear, you can do literally everything. That's toally different from us people with a scientific background, who still believe that we're constrained by physical laws. Or math. Or reason. Or logic. It works because politicians don't even get close to breaching natural laws. They are content with much, much simpler achievements. Personal wealth, power or just making certain other people feel miserable. However, Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany, has studied physics. I'm wondering if she would be open to scientific solutions. Or if there political contrains which would prevent her from actually persuing solutions. - Klaus ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses
Really cheap power if we bootstrap by building one power satellite and use it for propulsion lasers to bring up parts for thousands. With all due respect, Keith, I've been hearing arguments like this for 50 years. One thing would help you establish credibility. Can you point to a design of yours that is used worldwide on a massive scale in a major industry? No hard feelings, but it sounds like its even less likely than earth bound solar cells. Dan M ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
