Re: Balancing the bad actors (was Re: Health Care (the same topic all week!~))

2008-11-04 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John Williams wrote:


 If less government regulation is better, why do are national health
 systems prevalent in many parts of the world?

 Why are wars prevalent in many parts of the world?

 Why do women love shoes?

3 answers in one:

Because people don't always make rational decisions leading to the
best or most efficient outcomes.
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Re: Balancing the bad actors (was Re: Health Care (the same topic all week!~))

2008-11-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote:


 If less government regulation is better, why do are national health
 systems prevalent in many parts of the world?

 Why are wars prevalent in many parts of the world?

Why do women love shoes?

Doug
non sequiturs r us
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Balancing the bad actors (was Re: Health Care (the same topic all week!~))

2008-11-01 Thread Lance A. Brown
Ronn! Blankenship said the following on 11/1/2008 12:24 AM:
 At 11:05 AM Friday 10/31/2008, John Williams wrote:
 Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Instead, we are faced with actors who will collude with each other to
 manipulate markets, subvert systems, and for the short term gain without
 regard to long-term consequences.

 Definitely. Such actors exist in government, as well. In fact, they dominate
 government.

 Which is a big reason why some (including some who do not get health 
 insurance through their employers and cannot afford to purchase it 
 themselves) are so leery of putting the government in charge (either 
 directly or indirectly by holding the purse strings) of anything as 
 important as medical care.

If not government, then what can be brought to bear to counteract the
tendency of human beings to be bad actors?

The health system we have today is broken in many ways.  I don't see how
removing more regulations from it will make it better.  That only gives
the existing bad actors more leeway to continue their activities.

If not the government, who upholds the social contract?

I believe everyone deserves healthcare, education, and other basic
services needed to live a productive, healthy life.  I don't believe
free markets will choose to provide those services to all people willingly.

If less government regulation is better, why do are national health
systems prevalent in many parts of the world?

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Re: Balancing the bad actors (was Re: Health Care (the same topic all week!~))

2008-11-01 Thread John Williams
Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 If not government, then what can be brought to bear to counteract the
 tendency of human beings to be bad actors?

I think there is a greater chance that God will make us better people than
that the government will. 

 The health system we have today is broken in many ways.  I don't see how
 removing more regulations from it will make it better.  That only gives
 the existing bad actors more leeway to continue their activities.

The existing bad actors dominate government. I don't see how their regulations
are going to make the health system better.

 If not the government, who upholds the social contract?

What social contract? Who signed this contract? What state is it legal in?

 I believe everyone deserves healthcare, education, and other basic
 services needed to live a productive, healthy life. 

That's interesting. What does it mean to deserve healthcare to live a
productive, healthy life? How will you make sure that someone with, say,
amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) can live a productive, healthy life?

 If less government regulation is better, why do are national health
 systems prevalent in many parts of the world?

Why are wars prevalent in many parts of the world?


  

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Re: Balancing the bad actors (was Re: Health Care (the same topic all week!~))

2008-11-01 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:55 AM Saturday 11/1/2008, John Williams wrote:
Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  If not government, then what can be brought to bear to counteract the
  tendency of human beings to be bad actors?

I think there is a greater chance that God will make us better people than
that the government will.



Government doesn't even have a prayer!


. . . ronn!  :)



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