Re: Hubble's Days Are Numbered

2003-08-01 Thread Jan Coffey

--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/hubble_future_0306731.html
 
 Despite pleas from a parade of astronomers that NASA consider extending the
 life and capabilities of the Hubble Space Telescope (HST), the U.S. space
 agency appears unlikely to change its plans to deorbit the space borne
 astronomy platform in 2010.
 

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RE: Hubble's Days Are Numbered

2003-08-01 Thread Chad Cooper
Nothing more than sensationalism They are planning to put a replacement
telescope satellite beforehand...
Hubble is dead, long live Hubble

http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/07073to
p.xml

The competition to build the James Webb Space Telescope ended last year
with the selection of a contracting team headed by Northrop Grumman Space
Technology. Eight years from now, an Ariane 5 is expected to boost the
5,400-kg. (11,880-lb.) observatory toward the second Lagrangian point (L2),
1.5 million km. (930,000 mi.) beyond Earth's orbit. There, the Sun and Earth
will be on a relatively straight line with the satellite, which minimizes
the effects of their light on its optics, and their gravitational pull will
be pretty much in balance, giving it a relatively benign parking spot. 


L2 OFFERS THE closest practical orbit for the deep space cold soak that the
telescope needs. To assure a temperature range of 30-35K, the telescope and
its Integrated Science Instrument Module (ISIM) will be shielded from
sunlight by a five-layer sunshield as big as two tennis courts. In this
cold, its infrared detectors will be so sensitive that they can chase the
red-shifted light of receding time as far back as the start of time itself,
back some 14 billion years to the moment when astronomers think the Big Bang
went bang. 


Astronomers call these first moments of creation the dark ages because no
observatory has been powerful enough to penetrate them. What scientists know
about the opening scenes of time is theory; they haven't seen the enactment.



Cl... Perhaps they'll see God at U 0,0,0.
Chad


-Original Message-
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hubble's Days Are Numbered


http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/hubble_futur
e_0306731.html

Despite pleas from a parade of astronomers that NASA consider 
extending the
life and capabilities of the Hubble Space Telescope (HST), the 
U.S. space
agency appears unlikely to change its plans to deorbit the space borne
astronomy platform in 2010.

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RE: Hubble's Days Are Numbered

2003-08-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:47 AM 8/1/03 -0700, Chad Cooper wrote:
Nothing more than sensationalism They are planning to put a replacement
telescope satellite beforehand...


Actually, IIRC, the Webb telescope is not supposed to be launched until at 
least 2012, and we all know how likely launch dates are to be delayed.  The 
main problem with keeping Hubble in service until after the Webb telescope 
is in place is that doing so would cost about $150 million each year.

A further point to consider is that, while Hubble is able to take pictures 
of distant objects inside our solar system, Webb will not be able to look 
at anything except objects beyond our solar system, as it will be unable to 
track moving objects like planets.



-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: Hubble's Days Are Numbered

2003-08-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn Blankenship wrote: 
 
 The main problem with keeping Hubble in service until 
 after the Webb telescope is in place is that doing so 
 would cost about $150 million each year. 
 
??? 
 
Where does this number come from? 
 
I would argue for something 100 times less expensive. 
 
Alberto Monteiro 
 
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Re: Hubble's Days Are Numbered

2003-08-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:49 PM 8/1/03 -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Ronn Blankenship wrote:

 The main problem with keeping Hubble in service until
 after the Webb telescope is in place is that doing so
 would cost about $150 million each year.

???
Where does this number come from?


quote

HUBBLE SUPPORTERS REQUEST THREE-YEAR PROJECT EXTENSION
from The Baltimore Sun
WASHINGTON - Supporters of the Hubble Space Telescope asked NASA yesterday
to extend its life for three years beyond the shutdown date of 2010 - at a
cost of at least $150 million a year.
Steven V.W. Beckwith, director of the Space Telescope Science Institute at
the Johns Hopkins University, which operates the instrument, told a
National Aeronautics and Space Administration panel the money will ensure
that Hubble continues to capture pictures that help scientists unravel
mysteries about the origin and nature of the universe.
It's up there, it works well and it's pretty easy to service it, Beckwith
told a group of astronomers and planetary scientists appointed to look into
Hubble's future.
But there was far from unanimous agreement on extending Hubble's life.
http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/howard/bal-ho.te.hubble01aug01.story
unquote



I would argue for something 100 times less expensive.


Perhaps you should put in a bid to NASA to run it, then . . .



-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: Hubble's Days Are Numbered

2003-08-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
 
Ronn Blankenship wrote: 
 
 The main problem with keeping Hubble in service until 
 after the Webb telescope is in place is that doing so 
 would cost about $150 million each year. 
 
 ??? 
 
 Where does this number come from? 
  
 quote 
 (...) at a cost of at least $150 million a year. 
 unquote 
  
It still doesn't make sense. Is it the cost of 
_getting_ and processing the images? If so, then 
it's not the cost of operating the thing, but the 
cost of the scientific output it produces - which 
will be almost the same if you replace it by a newer 
model. 
 
  
 I would argue for something 100 times less expensive. 
  
 Perhaps you should put in a bid to NASA to run it, then . . . 
  
Who me? A dangerous alien? I might use it to spy the 
USA and sell the information to North Korea! 
 
Alberto Monteiro 
 
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Hubble's Days Are Numbered

2003-07-31 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/hubble_future_0306731.html

Despite pleas from a parade of astronomers that NASA consider extending the
life and capabilities of the Hubble Space Telescope (HST), the U.S. space
agency appears unlikely to change its plans to deorbit the space borne
astronomy platform in 2010.

More

xponent
Plan The Funeral Maru
rob


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