Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:50:38 -0230, Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >How would you measure vampire popularity? > > Obligatory Cliche - That's a good question. > > A good question indeed; and one that I would answer with - their prevalence > in popular culture. > > -Travis "Lestat" Edmunds Someone I knew referred me to international demographic statistics that showed urban population centers have non-replacement birthrates. They expand only by an influx of people from outside urban areas. He says this proved there was a human predator that lived in urban centers. Or was that the wrong kind of proof? ;-) Gary "garlic lover" Denton #1 on google for easter lemming ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
From: Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal) Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 00:46:43 -0500 How would you measure vampire popularity? Obligatory Cliche - That's a good question. A good question indeed; and one that I would answer with - their prevalence in popular culture. -Travis "Lestat" Edmunds _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
> Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.afn.org/~vampires/timeline.html Ooh, cool timeline! Now I see why I was thinking Transylvania --> Vlad Tepes. But no Buffy...?!! ;) I think I read about Elizabeth Bathory (from the 1600s) in _The Blood Countess_ ( and gross), and there's the SF story about vampirism as a disease... Debbi OK, The Full Site Mentions Buffy Maru ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
> Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >And I fear I can't share your enthusiasm for > > > >Ann Rice... > > > Really? Why not? > > I just didn't really care about what > happened > >to the characters, and that's pretty much the 'kiss > >of death' for me and any book series. It's one of > >the major reasons why I adore most Brin novels > So you like his character development (Brin) better > than most? Yes, particularly in SF; I find that many books have interesting technical points, ideas and premises, but the sentients are not particularly fleshed-out. It's one of the reasons I think 'Star Trek' grabbed so many people: the characters were developed over time and had 'real' personalities. Brin does the best (IMHO) characterizations in a mostly hard SF setting; he also writes quite believable female personalities, which the majority of 'hard' SF authors seem to have difficulty with. ;) > >[OK, I have no idea how old Anne Rice is, but I > >was teasing back WRT my interest in Spike and Angel > >which you referred to as 'older men.'] > Wasn't me. Ooh, sorry, my bad -- it was William. I haven't yet looked at the site GaryD posted, but plan to (re: vampire beginnings and popularity: I thought the origins were Transylvannian, and they were hideous undead monsters; only later did they become 'sexy.') -- and the Buffy site looks fun too! I've read a snippet of the "What Would Buffy Do" book, and wonder if I should get it for one of my students who is struggling with various teen issues, and adores the series. Might be too scholarly from the bit I read. Debbi Connecting With Your Inner Slayer Maru :) __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
On Sun, 30 May 2004 18:45:15 -0230, Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal) > >Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:50:25 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I have always been interested in the vampire myth. > > > And it just so happens > > > that Anne writes the best vampire fiction (IMO), and > > > does it in a way that > > > makes *Anne Rice vampires* entirely different from > > > the classic vampire. They > > > are, dare I say, more human than human (to borrow a > > > White Zombie song title there). > > > >Hah, sidestepping the implication of liking an older > >woman! > > Perhaps. Though not intentionally. And as a matter of fact, I find 'older' > women quite attractive; and for various reasons. > > >[OK, I have no idea how old Anne Rice is, but I > >was teasing back WRT my interest in Spike and Angel > >which you referred to as 'older men.'] > > Wasn't me. > > > > >Vampires are a peculiarly seductive lot, I agree, > >although I think that erotic quality didn't really get > >developed until ~ the Victorian age(?); > > I'm not really sure. I AM sure that it's something like that though, as the > old vampire mythology isn't that attractive. > > >It's all that suppressed sexuality and > >tightly-reined desire... > > Sure is. > > >Are vampires as popular in > >Europe, given the absence of Puritanical > >underpinnings? (I'm assuming that in GB, the source > >of Victorian 'delicacy,' such sensual vampires are > >equally attractive.) > > To the question - I don't know. > > To the assumption - I agree > > -Travis How would you measure vampire popularity? Early last century I assumed it was popular in Germany and seemed a continuation of Germanic legends and folk tales. I note that the UK caught vampire literature from the continent and not vice versa. http://www.afn.org/~vampires/timeline.html I suppose you could measure google hits by language considering alternate spellings as measured by the total pages in each language. Gary Denton "That Would Be A Geek Thing" Maru #1 on Google for Liberal News ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:50:25 -0700 (PDT) > Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >And I fear I can't share your enthusiasm for Ann > >Rice... > Really? Why not? I just didn't really care about what happened to the characters, and that's pretty much the 'kiss of death' for me and any book series. It's one of the major reasons why I adore most Brin novels, and don't care much for say, G Bear books. So you like his character development (Brin) better than most? > >hmm, you yourself have a 'bit of a thing' going > >there, eh? ;) > I have always been interested in the vampire myth. > And it just so happens > that Anne writes the best vampire fiction (IMO), and > does it in a way that > makes *Anne Rice vampires* entirely different from > the classic vampire. They > are, dare I say, more human than human (to borrow a > White Zombie song title there). Hah, sidestepping the implication of liking an older woman! Perhaps. Though not intentionally. And as a matter of fact, I find 'older' women quite attractive; and for various reasons. [OK, I have no idea how old Anne Rice is, but I was teasing back WRT my interest in Spike and Angel which you referred to as 'older men.'] Wasn't me. Vampires are a peculiarly seductive lot, I agree, although I think that erotic quality didn't really get developed until ~ the Victorian age(?); I'm not really sure. I AM sure that it's something like that though, as the old vampire mythology isn't that attractive. It's all that suppressed sexuality and tightly-reined desire... Sure is. Are vampires as popular in Europe, given the absence of Puritanical underpinnings? (I'm assuming that in GB, the source of Victorian 'delicacy,' such sensual vampires are equally attractive.) To the question - I don't know. To the assumption - I agree -Travis _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
> William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27 May 2004, at 11:27 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > Debbi > > who didn't care for the ending of _Angel_ at all > >:P > > I thought it was good actually. Better than the > _Buffy_ ending. I suppose I prefer at least a partially happy ending; I really liked the notion of 'spreading the slayerhood' (this ties into what Julia posted, esp. the 'what would Buffy do?' basis for decision-making -- I've been able to use Buffy in discussion with some of my teen students re: life decisions, good and not). Besides, one of my favorite characters is eliminated! :P Of course, they left a bit of wiggle room, maybe a movie follow-up? ( Probably not, but one can hope...) Ronn! wrote: "How about the ending of "Forever Knight"?" Oh, eeeuwww! Sucked big time! OK, there was a *teeny tiny* bit of wiggle room, but in my book _it_never_happened_. Debbi Of Course, In My Book Some Of The Last Season Of DS9 (And Voyager) Never Happened Either Maru :P __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
Deborah Harrell wrote: > > The actor who played 'LeCroix' in _Forever Knight_ was > in a 2-parter TV movie this week (Scott Turow's > "Reversible Errors," with Tom Sellick and Walter > Macy); he does the cold, calculating type quite well, > but I don't think I've seen him play even a quasi-nice > guy. He co-wrote a vampire book with P. N. Elrod. :) I own it, but I haven't read it yet. Julia So many books, so many kids ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
At 05:27 PM 5/27/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: The actor who played 'LeCroix' in _Forever Knight_ was in a 2-parter TV movie this week (Scott Turow's "Reversible Errors," with Tom Sellick and Walter Macy); he does the cold, calculating type quite well, but I don't think I've seen him play even a quasi-nice guy. Unless you think LeCroix's potentially a nice guy! (Maybe he would be if he went to Rio...?) :) Debbi who didn't care for the ending of _Angel_ at all >:P How about the ending of "Forever Knight"? Agree With You About "Angel" And Wasn't Too Thrilled With Last Night's "Enterprise" Either Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
On 27 May 2004, at 11:27 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: Debbi who didn't care for the ending of _Angel_ at all >:P I thought it was good actually. Better than the _Buffy_ ending. S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E S P O I L E R S P A C E I was watching my Buffy Season One DVD set today, and right there in ep 1.2 Buffy says "Don't go wild bunch on me" - a reference to the movie _The Wild Bunch_ which is referenced in the Angel finale. So that was amusing... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ "Mac OS X is a rock-solid system that's beautifully designed. I much prefer it to Linux." - Bill Joy. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
The actor who played 'LeCroix' in _Forever Knight_ was in a 2-parter TV movie this week (Scott Turow's "Reversible Errors," with Tom Sellick and Walter Macy); he does the cold, calculating type quite well, but I don't think I've seen him play even a quasi-nice guy. Unless you think LeCroix's potentially a nice guy! (Maybe he would be if he went to Rio...?) :) Debbi who didn't care for the ending of _Angel_ at all >:P __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Whoof! Just realized that I should have been more clear: > I wrote: > Vampires are a peculiarly seductive lot, I agree, > although I think that erotic quality didn't really > get developed until ~ the Victorian age(?); the > 'original' > Nosferatu is quite disgusting IIRC, and the stories > I've heard of Vlad Tepes make him a genuine monster > of a man. *** It's all that suppressed sexuality and > tightly-reined desire... Are vampires as popular in > Europe, given the absence of Puritanical > underpinnings? (I'm assuming that in GB, the source > of Victorian 'delicacy,' such sensual vampires are > equally attractive.) *** I should have inserted here something like 'I think that what makes the modern version of vampires so compelling is all that...' [rest of paragraph]. Debbi Sloppy Sentencing Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
> Travis Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >And I fear I can't share your enthusiasm for Ann > >Rice... > Really? Why not? I just didn't really care about what happened to the characters, and that's pretty much the 'kiss of death' for me and any book series. It's one of the major reasons why I adore most Brin novels, and don't care much for say, G Bear books. > >hmm, you yourself have a 'bit of a thing' going > >there, eh? ;) > I have always been interested in the vampire myth. > And it just so happens > that Anne writes the best vampire fiction (IMO), and > does it in a way that > makes *Anne Rice vampires* entirely different from > the classic vampire. They > are, dare I say, more human than human (to borrow a > White Zombie song title there). Hah, sidestepping the implication of liking an older woman! [OK, I have no idea how old Anne Rice is, but I was teasing back WRT my interest in Spike and Angel which you referred to as 'older men.'] Vampires are a peculiarly seductive lot, I agree, although I think that erotic quality didn't really get developed until ~ the Victorian age(?); the 'original' Nosferatu is quite disgusting IIRC, and the stories I've heard of Vlad Tepes make him a genuine monster of a man. It's all that suppressed sexuality and tightly-reined desire... Are vampires as popular in Europe, given the absence of Puritanical underpinnings? (I'm assuming that in GB, the source of Victorian 'delicacy,' such sensual vampires are equally attractive.) Debbi But It's Only The Ones With Souls Who Are So Compelling Maru :} __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Travis wrote: "Lets not forget the seductive Janette, and the real rebel - Vachon." I still miss that show - but not 'Tracy.' :P I don't think anyone would miss Tracy. She was just a cheesy, cliched character. And I fear I can't share your enthusiasm for Ann Rice... Really? Why not? hmm, you yourself have a 'bit of a thing' going there, eh? ;) I have always been interested in the vampire myth. And it just so happens that Anne writes the best vampire fiction (IMO), and does it in a way that makes *Anne Rice vampires* entirely different from the classic vampire. They are, dare I say, more human than human (to borrow a White Zombie song title there). -Travis _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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> William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > >> Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Debbi wrote: > >>> who admits to having a bit of a thing for > >>> vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their- > >>>bloodlust... ;} > >> Too much Barnibus (sp?) as a youth? > > I think it's Barnibas** -- wasn't 'Dark Shadows' a > > deliciously wicked thing to watch, for a child? But he _did_ set the stage for Nicholas > > Knight, Angel and Spike (yeah, the last two are > too young for me, but I still enjoy the characters). > So you like much older men? :) Given that young > Spike is ~150 or so > and Angel another 100 or so years older... > > OTOH James Marsters is 42 in August and David > Boreanaz was born 16th > May 1971, so it's his 33rd birthday Sunday! Hey, I didn't know JM was that, um, mature -- only 2 yars my junior!Thanks for the info! ;} Travis wrote: "Lets not forget the seductive Janette, and the real rebel - Vachon." I still miss that show - but not 'Tracy.' :P And I fear I can't share your enthusiasm for Ann Rice...hmm, you yourself have a 'bit of a thing' going there, eh? ;) **As was pointed out, it was actually Barnabas. [Oops, that writer's post was trashed/deleted without my getting the name down correctly - sorry, you-who-posted-so-many-links-to-Dark-Shadows...] Debbi who is off to see the ponies again - and sends a proper snort of her own down to Tucson! ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: Vampires (was: Neanderthal) > > Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Debbi wrote: > > > > who admits to having a bit of a thing for > > > vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... > > ;} > > > Too much Barnibus (sp?) as a youth? > > I think it's Barnibas -- wasn't 'Dark Shadows' a > deliciously wicked thing to watch, for a child? ;D Barnabas Collins. I used to run home from school to watch Dark Shadows. It was "hunny" for a kid who was raised on Universal monster movies. > Of course, I saw a couple of episodes on some channel > last summer The Skiffy channel. ...what a hokey, dumb, badly acted excuse > of a show! But he _did_ set the stage for Nicholas > Knight, Angel and Spike (yeah, the last two are too > young for me, but I still enjoy the characters). > There is still a living Dark Shadows fanbase. http://members.aol.com/darkkshad/super/natural.htm http://www.darkshadows.com/ http://www.darkshadowsfestival.com/ http://www.natural-innovations.com/ds/ http://www.collinwood.net/ http://www.morticiasmorgue.com/darkshad.html http://www.darkshadowsonline.com/ http://www.mpimedia.com/darkshadows/ http://www.scifi.com/darkshadows/ http://bobubas.topcities.com/ http://www.dsfanfic.com/ http://www.zurc2.com/ds.html http://www.darkshadowsdvd.com/ http://www.widowshill.com/ http://www.agentwithstyle.com/darkshad.htm http://collinsport2.topcities.com/index.html xponent 1612 Hits Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Vampires (was: Neanderthal) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) But he _did_ set the stage for Nicholas Knight Lets not forget the seductive Janette, and the real rebel - Vachon. Debbi Whaddaya Mean LeCroix Isn't Reformable? Maru In a strange way, Nick is the one who isn't reformable. Just take a peek into his fridge!! "another vampire struggling to overcome their bloodlust" eh? Travis "ANNE RICE!!" Edmunds Oh! I almost forgot...ANNE RICE ANNE RICE ANNE RICE ANNE RICE ANNE RICE ANNE RICE Did I forget to mention Anne Rice? _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 14 May 2004, at 11:44 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Debbi wrote: who admits to having a bit of a thing for vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;} Too much Barnibus (sp?) as a youth? I think it's Barnibas -- wasn't 'Dark Shadows' a deliciously wicked thing to watch, for a child? ;D Of course, I saw a couple of episodes on some channel last summer...what a hokey, dumb, badly acted excuse of a show! But he _did_ set the stage for Nicholas Knight, Angel and Spike (yeah, the last two are too young for me, but I still enjoy the characters). So you like much older men? :) Given that young Spike is ~150 or so and Angel another 100 or so years older... OTOH James Marsters is 42 in August and David Boreanaz was born 16th May 1971, so it's his 33rd birthday Sunday! -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Misuse of IMPs leads to strange, difficult-to-diagnose bugs. - Anguish et al. "Cocoa Programming" ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Vampires (was: Neanderthal)
> Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debbi wrote: > > who admits to having a bit of a thing for > > vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... > ;} > Too much Barnibus (sp?) as a youth? I think it's Barnibas -- wasn't 'Dark Shadows' a deliciously wicked thing to watch, for a child? ;D Of course, I saw a couple of episodes on some channel last summer...what a hokey, dumb, badly acted excuse of a show! But he _did_ set the stage for Nicholas Knight, Angel and Spike (yeah, the last two are too young for me, but I still enjoy the characters). Julia wrote: "I like P.N. Elrod for that sort of thing. :)" Yet another author to add to my 'should read some by' list... Debbi Whaddaya Mean LeCroix Isn't Reformable? Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Deborah Harrell wrote: > Debbi > who admits to having a bit of a thing for > vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;} I like P.N. Elrod for that sort of thing. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Debbi wrote: who admits to having a bit of a thing for vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;} Too much Barnibus (sp?) as a youth? -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Deborah Harrell wrote:
> Debbi
> whose younger brother parodied "Yesterday" with
> "Leprosy" ('I'm not half the man I used to be' etc. --
> sick, but funny; Hansen's disease is now thankfully
> controllable and quite rare)
That's also been done. :) I think I saw it performed in 1985? By
girls dressed in white. It was a hoot.
Julia
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:18:39 -0700 (PDT), Deborah Harrell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 03:58 PM 5/11/04, Deborah Harrell wrote:
> Debbi
> whose younger brother parodied "Yesterday" with
> "Leprosy" ('I'm not half the man I used to be' etc. --
> sick, but funny; Hansen's disease is now thankfully
> controllable and quite rare)
I'd like it. I picked up a parody somewhere of "Yesterday'.
Sodomy.
I made love to you illegally.
The legislature wants to come and see
Then lock us up without a key.
Suddenly
I'm not half the man I used to be.
Justice Rehnquist said so on TV.
We have no right to privacy.
Where... did... Our rights go?
I don't know.They wouldn't say.
They say the laws are clear:
If you love queer,
It's not okay ay ay ay.
etc...
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Nick Lidster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More so then that a movie was made out of it, > "Underworld". I presume you mean about a virus causing vampirism...hmm, have to see if I can rent that! Debbi who admits to having a bit of a thing for vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;} __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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> Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 03:58 PM 5/11/04, Deborah Harrell wrote:
> >Perhaps I should have written what it made me
> >think of: a short story or article about how
> vampires
> >are the result of a viral infection... :)
> It's been done . . .
Yes, I found that idea fascinating -- it tied in
nicely with the notion that certain medical conditions
have lead to various myths and legends. Frex
werewolves (and perhaps partially vampires) are
thought by some researchers to have been inspired by
sufferers of a type of porphyria; symptoms include
skin that blisters with sun exposure,
irrational/violent behavior, an appetite for
redmeat/blood (there's a defect in heme metabolism),
and severe abdominal pain that can cause the patient
to writhe about in agony.
Debbi
whose younger brother parodied "Yesterday" with
"Leprosy" ('I'm not half the man I used to be' etc. --
sick, but funny; Hansen's disease is now thankfully
controllable and quite rare)
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At 03:58 PM 5/11/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: Perhaps I should have written what it made me think of: a short story or article about how vampires are the result of a viral infection... :) It's been done . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Neanderthal (was: More on the environmental movement)
> Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Now I'll have to go back and check for that - > > "Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins far > >> more closely than they resemble healthy modern > >> humans," Dobson wrote in the journal article. > >> "Conversely, cretin skeletons resemble > Neanderthals > >> more closely than they resemble healthy modern > > humans..." > > Sorry but no. They have sequenced the > mitochondrial DNA from at least 3 > > specimens. They weren't human. Period. I didn't know that about the DNA. Have to read that sometime. > I will add this is another case of a scientist > wandering outside his > field. He has no training in biology, medicine or > anthropology. I believe I *did* say that his opinions were controversial, and the article certainly made clear that he wasn't a biologist -- I still thought it was fun! Perhaps I should have written what it made me think of: a short story or article about how vampires are the result of a viral infection... :) Debbi Needs To Make Her Humor More Obvious Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [SPAM] Re: Neanderthal growth rate
Kevin Tarr wrote: > > At 11:01 AM 4/29/2004, you wrote: > > >There have been discussions here about Neanderthals > >(not you, Mike Lee!) So you might be interested in the following > >abstract of an article in today's issue of Nature. (If your library > >access is like mine, you might get to read the article in a month.) > > > >It is an interesting idea: Neanderthals, though intelligent, were > >adapted for a low-tech, cold weather evolutionary niche. So maybe > >they were a different species--the debate goes on. > > > > ---David > > So global warming killed them? Interesting. Very funny! Around 80K years ago, they were still in the Middle East, alongside our own (sub)species. But later they seem not to have been found there. Around 40K years ago, they were still all over Europe. But not that long afterward, they were no longer found. Driven out by our (sub)species, once we got good enough to out-compete them. ---David Or maybe they're still around, as trolls... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal growth rate
David Hobby wrote: > It is an interesting idea: Neanderthals, though intelligent, > were adapted for a low-tech, cold weather evolutionary niche. > So maybe they were a different species--the debate goes on. > > Because dental growth is an excellent indicator of somatic > > development, our results suggest that Neanderthals developed > > faster even than their immediate ancestor, H. heidelbergensis. > > Dental growth became longer and brain size increased from the > > Plio-Pleistocene in hominid evolution. Neanderthals, despite > > having a large brain, were characterized by a short period of > > development. This autapomorphy in growth is an evolutionary > > reversal, and points strongly to a specific distinction > > between H. sapiens and H. neanderthalensis. So Neanderthals really did "live fast and die young". I guess since their creative, neotonous childhoods were so short, they wouldn't have had a chance to develop the kind of mental flexibility modern humans have. I've also seen speculation that they couldn't develop much culture, because they didn't have enough old people for oral tradition to start. If they grew up quickly, they may have also aged quickly, which would support that theory. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama => [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal growth rate
At 11:01 AM 4/29/2004, you wrote: There have been discussions here about Neanderthals (not you, Mike Lee!) So you might be interested in the following abstract of an article in today's issue of Nature. (If your library access is like mine, you might get to read the article in a month.) It is an interesting idea: Neanderthals, though intelligent, were adapted for a low-tech, cold weather evolutionary niche. So maybe they were a different species--the debate goes on. ---David So global warming killed them? Interesting. Kevin T. - VRWLC Doing my part ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Neanderthal growth rate
There have been discussions here about Neanderthals
(not you, Mike Lee!) So you might be interested in the following
abstract of an article in today's issue of Nature. (If your library
access is like mine, you might get to read the article in a month.)
It is an interesting idea: Neanderthals, though intelligent, were
adapted for a low-tech, cold weather evolutionary niche. So maybe
they were a different species--the debate goes on.
---David
> Life-history traits correlate closely with dental growth,
> so differences in dental growth within Homo can enable us to determine
> how somatic development has evolved and to identify developmental
> shifts that warrant species-level distinctions. Dental growth
> can be determined from the speed of enamel formation (or extension
> rate). We analysed the enamel extension rate in Homo
> antecessor (8 teeth analysed), Homo heidelbergensis (106), Homo
> neanderthalensis ('Neanderthals'; 146) and Upper
> Palaeolithic-Mesolithic Homo sapiens (100). Here we report that
> Upper Palaeolithic-Mesolithic H. sapiens shared an identical
> dental development pattern with modern humans, but that H.
> antecessor and H. heidelbergensis had shorter periods of dental
> growth. Surprisingly, Neanderthals were characterized by having
> the shortest period of dental growth. Because dental growth is
> an excellent indicator of somatic development, our results suggest
> that Neanderthals developed faster even than their immediate
> ancestor, H. heidelbergensis. Dental growth became longer and
> brain size increased from the Plio-Pleistocene in hominid
> evolution. Neanderthals, despite having a large brain, were
> characterized by a short period of development. This autapomorphy
> in growth is an evolutionary reversal, and points strongly to a
> specific distinction between H. sapiens and H. neanderthalensis.
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Re: Scatological Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding ReligionandAtheism
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 09:12 AM 6/23/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: > > >Having recently had the displeasure of seeing the inside of my very own > >colon, I can tell you that it all seems to start out rather green. > > Which is why green *vomit* is considered a serious symptom, as it comes > from the upper intestine rather than from the stomach and so may be > indicative of an intestinal blockage, etc. Which is why "green vomit" is very high on the list of things you call the pediatrician about IMMEDIATELY if your child has it. Julia can't remember some of the others, but "very high fever" is also on the list ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion andAtheism
Jan Coffey wrote: This weeks poop of the week is, the proper spelling for Kneeandhertall. Stay tooned for for next weeks poop of the week. Take votes, make predictions, throw it around, start your own poop and try to be the insteigator of next weeks, -poop of the week-. In any event you don't want to miss out when it hits the fan. I'm shooting for the complete oposite for next week, "Elboworhishort". www.poopoftheweek.com? Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
> From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Well, Ronn!, if you ever find yourself regularly changing the > diapers of > a baby from the time it's a newborn until about 18 months or > so, you'll > see more variety of color than you ever wanted to. :) And, soon, you'll be seeing it in stereo!!! Or did you not want to be reminded about that part... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scatological Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
At 05:41 PM 6/23/2003 -0400, you wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Which is why green *vomit* is considered a serious symptom, as it comes from the upper intestine rather than from the stomach and so may be indicative of an intestinal blockage, etc. ... Or you've drunk too many shamrock shakes at McDonalds on St. Patty's Day. Wait, I've missed this thread.I've had two IB and all I had was a sharp pain. Now there was a point where I was getting sick, but it wasn't green. The first time, I felt sick in the morning, by noon I was in the hospital. They took out my appendix. BUZZ wrong answer doc. But let me lie in pain for four days before you figure out what is wrong. The second time I was in pain all week, went to the ER on a Thursday, they gave me a prescription and told me to come back Monday if I still felt bad. After the operation things weren'tmoving like they should. They talked of a second operation, then transferred me to a specialist. No surgery, but two weeks later I was out of the hospital. Kevin T. - VRWC And I'm still sick now. No cold symptoms, but I'm dizzy as hell. I'm moving real slow. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scatological Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion andAtheism
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Which is why green *vomit* is considered a serious symptom, as it comes from the upper intestine rather than from the stomach and so may be indicative of an intestinal blockage, etc. ... Or you've drunk too many shamrock shakes at McDonalds on St. Patty's Day. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question ...
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > > > > At 14:47 2003-06-23 -0500, Ronn! wrote: > > >Okay, but it removes the opportunity for pun-loving *American*¹ students > > >to express just how sick the topic makes them . . . > > >_ > > >¹Who by definition know nothing of French but the fries . . . > > > > > >-- Ronn! :) > > > > WHAT? Haven't they heard of the kisses?? > > You really should educate them better. > > And here I was, just going to mention the *toast*. :) > > Most American students know what French kisses are > Yea, that's when the person you are kissing is only doing so to distract you from all the $#!+ they are doing to you behind your back. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question ...
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: > > At 14:47 2003-06-23 -0500, Ronn! wrote: > >Okay, but it removes the opportunity for pun-loving *American*¹ students > >to express just how sick the topic makes them . . . > >_ > >¹Who by definition know nothing of French but the fries . . . > > > >-- Ronn! :) > > WHAT? Haven't they heard of the kisses?? > You really should educate them better. And here I was, just going to mention the *toast*. :) Most American students know what French kisses are Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question ...
At 14:47 2003-06-23 -0500, Ronn! wrote: Okay, but it removes the opportunity for pun-loving *American*¹ students to express just how sick the topic makes them . . . _ ¹Who by definition know nothing of French but the fries . . . -- Ronn! :) WHAT? Haven't they heard of the kisses?? You really should educate them better. Jean-Louis GSV Open to interpretation ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
--- Steve Sloan II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I think all this was covered in Sawyer's Hominid. > > > The main point of my starting the thread, however, lies > > in the controversy that no one knows how many Neanderthals > > were, in fact, atheists. > > > > If the theories about Neandertals that Steven Baxter uses > in _Origin_ and _Evolution_ are true, then they all were. > They lacked the symbolic thinking skills it would take to > believe in a god or gods. > > My brother the communication major, sais that god is a symbol. I'm sorry, I'm fed up, if "said" is spelled that way then why isn't "sais" spelled that way too? = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion andAtheism
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > > I hear that a similarly wide variety of colors is found in poop, although > I > > have been fortunate so far not to have personally witnessed some of the > > more extreme shades possible, the occurrence of which generally suggests > a > > problem somewhere along the passage from intake orifice to outflow > orifice. > > Well, Ronn!, if you ever find yourself regularly changing the diapers of > a baby from the time it's a newborn until about 18 months or so, you'll > see more variety of color than you ever wanted to. :) (Generally, > though, it'll be consistent from one day to the next, until new things > are introduced into the diet. Nothing like the poop the week that sweet > potatoes are introduced -- *that* can be an interesting shade of > brown) > This weeks poop of the week is, the proper spelling for Kneeandhertall. Stay tooned for for next weeks poop of the week. Take votes, make predictions, throw it around, start your own poop and try to be the insteigator of next weeks, -poop of the week-. In any event you don't want to miss out when it hits the fan. I'm shooting for the complete oposite for next week, "Elboworhishort". = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Neanderthal Question ...
> -- > From: Ronn!Blankenship[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply To: Killer Bs Discussion > Sent: Montag, 23. Juni 2003 12:10 > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Neanderthal Question ... > > At 11:21 PM 6/22/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote: > >... > > > > > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. > > > > "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", > >and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be > >fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". > ... As far as I know ... the location meanwhile is spelled Neandertal but when the bones were found, it was spelled Neanderthal (that was some time ago) and it is general use that names of species/races are never changed in spelling so those people are still correctly spelled "Homo neanderthalensis". Some information on the place can be found at: http://www.neanderthal.de/e_thal/pg_30.htm http://www.google.de/search?q=%22Homo+neanderthalensis%22&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=d e&meta= gives 3900 hits http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Homo+neandertalensis%22 &meta= gives 584 hits which is what I expected. Funny enough: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Neandertal+&meta= gives 25100 hits http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Neanderthal+&meta= gives 64200 hits Regards Armin Freiberg ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > > > > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > > > > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > > > > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. > > > > > > "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", > > > and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be > > > fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". > > > It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current > > > texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of > > > an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one > > > does not say the "s". On the other hand, HE spelled it with the > > > "os". So both are right, in various ways. > > > > > > > Uh> to me it's like your arguing over what shade of brown.dirt is. > > Well, *that* depends on the dirt in question. Or was that your point? > yep that was the point. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question ...
At 03:15 PM 6/23/03 -0400, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: David Hobby wrote: It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one does not say the "s". Ronn! wrote : But that removes the opportunity for pun-loving students to express just how sick the topic makes them . . . -- Ronn! :) Not at all! The new spelling is the spelling of the french word for hospital. We were very expressive when we learned his theorem even though his name was spelled with the S. Okay, but it removes the opportunity for pun-loving *American*¹ students to express just how sick the topic makes them . . . _ ¹Who by definition know nothing of French but the fries . . . -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question ...
David Hobby wrote: It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one does not say the "s". Ronn! wrote : But that removes the opportunity for pun-loving students to express just how sick the topic makes them . . . -- Ronn! :) Not at all! The new spelling is the spelling of the french word for hospital. We were very expressive when we learned his theorem even though his name was spelled with the S. Jean-Louis who studied at www.ulaval.ca ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scatological Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
At 09:12 AM 6/23/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... > "It's GREEN!?! What have you been feeding this kid, ALGAE?!?" > ~Robin Williams on this topic Having recently had the displeasure of seeing the inside of my very own colon, I can tell you that it all seems to start out rather green. Which is why green *vomit* is considered a serious symptom, as it comes from the upper intestine rather than from the stomach and so may be indicative of an intestinal blockage, etc. The doctor who was shoving that, uh, I mean, who was doing the exam, told me that it's all that color until it's mixed with bile, IIRC. After the preparation for the exam, I was suprised that there was anything left to see. Meaning that after days of fasting and laxatives, you are still full of . . . How did we get back to *this* again? Now stop. Don't you mean, "Scat!"? --Ronn! :) "Bathroom humor is an American-Standard." ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question RegardingReligionandAtheism
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding ReligionandAtheism Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:12:39 -0700 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... > "It's GREEN!?! What have you been feeding this kid, ALGAE?!?" > ~Robin Williams on this topic Having recently had the displeasure of seeing the inside of my very own colon, I can tell you that it all seems to start out rather green. The doctor who was shoving that, uh, I mean, who was doing the exam, told me that it's all that color until it's mixed with bile, IIRC. Joy. Thanks so much for sharing that. (It's interesting, but still.) Remind me not to order Mexican food for lunch. :) After the preparation for the exam, I was suprised that there was anything left to see. Ummm, Ditto? (What the heck, make it a *Green* Ditto) How did we get back to *this* again? Now stop. Puleeze! :) Jon _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding ReligionandAtheism
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... > "It's GREEN!?! What have you been feeding this kid, ALGAE?!?" > ~Robin Williams on this topic Having recently had the displeasure of seeing the inside of my very own colon, I can tell you that it all seems to start out rather green. The doctor who was shoving that, uh, I mean, who was doing the exam, told me that it's all that color until it's mixed with bile, IIRC. After the preparation for the exam, I was suprised that there was anything left to see. How did we get back to *this* again? Now stop. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding ReligionandAtheism
Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and > >Atheism > >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:29:13 -0500 > > > > > >Well, Ronn!, if you ever find yourself regularly changing the diapers of > >a baby from the time it's a newborn until about 18 months or so, you'll > >see more variety of color than you ever wanted to. :) (Generally, > >though, it'll be consistent from one day to the next, until new things > >are introduced into the diet. Nothing like the poop the week that sweet > >potatoes are introduced -- *that* can be an interesting shade of > >brown) > > > > "It's GREEN!?! What have you been feeding this kid, ALGAE?!?" > ~Robin Williams on this topic Oh, that just kinda happens sometimes. The first time someone sees it and they haven't been warned about it, they totally freak. Even if they *have* been warned about it, they may still freak. If it's something wrong, it tends to straighten itself out without any intervention. No, after the sweet potatoes, the poop takes on a decidedly orange hue. :) Julia and it might for the carrots, but Sammy was spitting those up when we tried them, so we didn't find out for sure on *that* ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion andAtheism
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:29:13 -0500 "Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > I hear that a similarly wide variety of colors is found in poop, although I > have been fortunate so far not to have personally witnessed some of the > more extreme shades possible, the occurrence of which generally suggests a > problem somewhere along the passage from intake orifice to outflow orifice. Well, Ronn!, if you ever find yourself regularly changing the diapers of a baby from the time it's a newborn until about 18 months or so, you'll see more variety of color than you ever wanted to. :) (Generally, though, it'll be consistent from one day to the next, until new things are introduced into the diet. Nothing like the poop the week that sweet potatoes are introduced -- *that* can be an interesting shade of brown) "It's GREEN!?! What have you been feeding this kid, ALGAE?!?" ~Robin Williams on this topic :) Jon _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > I hear that a similarly wide variety of colors is found > in poop, although I have been fortunate so far not to > have personally witnessed some of the more extreme shades > possible, the occurrence of which generally suggests a > problem somewhere along the passage from intake orifice > to outflow orifice. Or the ingestion of Fruity Pebbles or dark Kool-Aid. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama => [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think all this was covered in Sawyer's Hominid. > The main point of my starting the thread, however, lies > in the controversy that no one knows how many Neanderthals > were, in fact, atheists. If the theories about Neandertals that Steven Baxter uses in _Origin_ and _Evolution_ are true, then they all were. They lacked the symbolic thinking skills it would take to believe in a god or gods. Why yes, I *did* suck all of the fun out of that joke. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama => [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Scatalogical Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > I hear that a similarly wide variety of colors is found in poop, although I > have been fortunate so far not to have personally witnessed some of the > more extreme shades possible, the occurrence of which generally suggests a > problem somewhere along the passage from intake orifice to outflow orifice. Well, Ronn!, if you ever find yourself regularly changing the diapers of a baby from the time it's a newborn until about 18 months or so, you'll see more variety of color than you ever wanted to. :) (Generally, though, it'll be consistent from one day to the next, until new things are introduced into the diet. Nothing like the poop the week that sweet potatoes are introduced -- *that* can be an interesting shade of brown) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
Jan Coffey wrote: > > --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > > > > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. > > > > "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", > > and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be > > fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". > > It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current > > texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of > > an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one > > does not say the "s". On the other hand, HE spelled it with the > > "os". So both are right, in various ways. > > > > Uh> to me it's like your arguing over what shade of brown.dirt is. Well, *that* depends on the dirt in question. Or was that your point? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
At 12:36 AM 6/23/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote: --- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > > > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. > > "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", > and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be > fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". > It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current > texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of > an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one > does not say the "s". On the other hand, HE spelled it with the > "os". So both are right, in various ways. > Uh> to me it's like your arguing over what shade of brown.dirt is. Dunno about how much you've moved around, but I've seen dirt in colors ranging from a light tan or beige color like _cafe au lait_ all the way to nearly black, not to mention a lot of rich shades of red in areas where there is a lot of iron oxide in the soil. (Around here, you can even buy T-shirts which claim to be dyed with such dirt, though my mother would most likely not have thought that a wise use of money, as when I was growing up and we would go to her parents' farm, she would then spend much time, effort, and money trying to get the red clay _out_ of the clothes I had worn during the visit.) I hear that a similarly wide variety of colors is found in poop, although I have been fortunate so far not to have personally witnessed some of the more extreme shades possible, the occurrence of which generally suggests a problem somewhere along the passage from intake orifice to outflow orifice. This Too Shall Pass Maru -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 11:21 PM 6/22/03 -0400, David Hobby wrote: ... > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". However, the Eudora spell-check insists that "Neanderthal" is spelled correctly and "Neandertal" is spelled incorrectly. It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one does not say the "s". But that removes the opportunity for pun-loving students to express just how sick the topic makes them . . . -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 6/22/2003 8:54:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", > > and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be > > fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". > > It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current > > texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of > > an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one > > does not say the "s". On the other hand, HE spelled it with the > > "os". So both are right, in various ways. > > > > ---David > > I think all this was covered in Sawyer's Hominid. > > The main point of my starting the thread, however, lies in the controversy > that no one knows how many Neanderthals were, in fact, atheists. > Why don't we just wait till the next time we meet one and ask them whether or not they would prefer it to be spelled with the 'th' or just the 't'? While we are at it should be ask them for proof? Oh now that is far to esoteric, but only becouse it's spelled wrong. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
--- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > > > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. > > "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", > and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be > fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". > It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current > texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of > an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one > does not say the "s". On the other hand, HE spelled it with the > "os". So both are right, in various ways. > Uh> to me it's like your arguing over what shade of brown.dirt is. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
In a message dated 6/22/2003 8:54:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", > and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be > fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". > It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current > texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of > an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one > does not say the "s". On the other hand, HE spelled it with the > "os". So both are right, in various ways. > > ---David I think all this was covered in Sawyer's Hominid. The main point of my starting the thread, however, lies in the controversy that no one knows how many Neanderthals were, in fact, atheists. William Taylor - When humor becomes too esoteric, it can be like yelling 'foyer' in a crowded mezzanine. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Neanderthal Question Regarding Religion and Atheism
... > > > > How dare you say Neanderthal! > > > > That's Neandertal. > > > > Greg Bear spells it Neandertal. > > > > Robert J. Sawyer spells it Neanderthal. "Tal" is German for valley. It used to be spelled "Thal", and that's preserved in some place names. So either should be fine, but Julia's right, one should say "tal". It's like L'Hospital, the French mathematician. Current texts spell his name using the "o with a hat over it" instead of an "os". This is certainly easier on the students, since one does not say the "s". On the other hand, HE spelled it with the "os". So both are right, in various ways. ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
