Re: On this date in . . .
Given the obvious shortage of functional ones in Washington, perhaps it is a good idea to do whatever is needed to conserve them . . . At 12:19 AM Sunday 9/4/2011, medieva...@aol.com wrote: I now think all government is run under the rule of Cap and Trade ...of brain cells. In a message dated 9/3/2011 8:21:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net writes: 1958, President Eisenhower signed the National Defense Education Act, which provided aid to public and private education to promote learning in such fields as math and science (Insert your own comment here.) . . . ronn! :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: On this date in . . .
On 9/3/2011 11:17 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: 1958, President Eisenhower signed the National Defense Education Act, which provided aid to public and private education to promote learning in such fields as math and science On this date in 2011, it is official: President Eisenhower's own political party no longer believes in the validity of Math and Science. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwil...@zwilnik.com He moves in darkness as it seems to me, not of woods only or the shade of trees. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
On this date in . . .
1958, President Eisenhower signed the National Defense Education Act, which provided aid to public and private education to promote learning in such fields as math and science (Insert your own comment here.) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: On this date in . . .
I now think all government is run under the rule of Cap and Trade ...of brain cells. In a message dated 9/3/2011 8:21:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net writes: 1958, President Eisenhower signed the National Defense Education Act, which provided aid to public and private education to promote learning in such fields as math and science (Insert your own comment here.) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
NASA sets Ares I-X test launch date
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Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
Steve Sloan wrote: The list is 10 years, 13 days old. Happy Anniversary! I just searched through my hard drive to find my oldest saved emails. I found a zip file containing archived digests from before I joined, including digest number #1. The first post of digest #1 was sent by Stewart Blandon on Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT). Julia Thompson wrote: IIRC, digest mode was not set up on the first day of the list. I think the first day of the list was sometime in the 6th-10th range. I could be wrong, though. That wouldn't surprise me, because Stewart's digest #1 post was a response to an earlier email. I thought maybe it was a pre-list email thread they brought onto the list, but it makes more sense that the list was going before the digests kicked in. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Br!n-L anniversary date
I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list actually started? I'm sure there are people here who were here well before me (Julia and Steve for starters), so it must be close to a decade old. Cheers Russell C. --- This email (including any attachments) is confidential and copyright. The School makes no warranty about the content of this email. Unless expressly stated, this email does not bind the School and does not necessarily constitute the opinion of the School. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender. --- GWAVAsig ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
On 28/04/2006, at 10:16 AM, Russell Chapman wrote: I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list actually started? I'm sure there are people here who were here well before me (Julia and Steve for starters), so it must be close to a decade old. I (first) joined in late 97. iirc... Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
On 28/04/2006, at 8:11 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 28/04/2006, at 10:16 AM, Russell Chapman wrote: I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list actually started? I'm sure there are people here who were here well before me (Julia and Steve for starters), so it must be close to a decade old. I (first) joined in late 97. iirc... Charlie. I found my subscription email from October 1996, and the list had been going a while before that. I suspect 10 year anniversary may have already passed. Speaking of anniversaries, I'm off to my in-laws' 50th wedding anniversary this weekend, and I am currently organising the 30 year reunion of an overland bus trip (Kathmandu to London) which we hold every 5 years. Ahh, the good old days... Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
Ray Ludenia wrote: On 28/04/2006, at 8:11 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 28/04/2006, at 10:16 AM, Russell Chapman wrote: I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list actually started? I'm sure there are people here who were here well before me (Julia and Steve for starters), so it must be close to a decade old. I (first) joined in late 97. iirc... Charlie. I found my subscription email from October 1996, and the list had been going a while before that. I suspect 10 year anniversary may have already passed. Speaking of anniversaries, I'm off to my in-laws' 50th wedding anniversary this weekend, and I am currently organising the 30 year reunion of an overland bus trip (Kathmandu to London) which we hold every 5 years. Ahh, the good old days... Regards, Ray. I joined around the 8th or 10th of April, and it had been going for a few days at least when I joined. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
Russell Chapman wrote: I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list actually started? I'm sure there are people here who were here well before me (Julia and Steve for starters), so it must be close to a decade old. The list is 10 years, 13 days old. Happy Anniversary! I just searched through my hard drive to find my oldest saved emails. I found a zip file containing archived digests from before I joined, including digest number #1. The first post of digest #1 was sent by Stewart Blandon on Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT). In fact, here it is... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Stewart Blandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Stefan, Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? There's some discrepancy here. Startide Rising seems to state that the Milky Way is Galaxy One. I just recently reread Startide Rising and did not get the impression the Brin was locating it anywhere yet. It is in Brightness that a definitive answer is give (if I can find the page no. I forward it to you) Stewart [And here's the response:] Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:39:36 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 96-04-15 16:08:13 EDT, you write: Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. GURPS is a role-playing system published by Steve Jackson Games (http://www.io.com/sjgames). GURPS Uplift was a worldbook that let you roleplay in the Uplift universe. It's out of print, and probably will stay that way unless I have time to update it. And people ask for it . . . I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Oooh yeah. Jam-packed. And some stuff got left out! Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? It's either derived from the books, supplied by Dave via notes, or made up by me (and some friends) and given a stamp of approval. (The Jophur/Treakie of Brightness Reef owe some to the Jophur construction kit rules in the game book, which is fine by me!) --Stefan [Julia's first post was time stamped Tue, 23 Apr 1996 08:46:07 -0500 (CDT), eight days after the first list post.] Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 08:46:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: Godel Turing problem On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, Yee Yang Li Hector wrote: Just wondering: If you're familiar with the Godel incompleteness theorem and the Turing halting problem (I've had a passing familiarity with them), could someone try to explain away the existence of sentient computers in the Galactic Center / the Startide universe / the Heart of the comet / Earth universes? If I recall correctly, Godel's theorem shows that any formal system that included arithmetic was either incomplete or inconsistent. Does that not mean that any computation system cannot be sentient because it cannot include arithmetic? Someone mentioned this in one of the newsgroups I subscribe to (can't remember which one, unfortunately) and pointed us to an essay he had put on the web: http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/Godel_vs_AI.html I would recommend reading this, if you're interested in the Godel/AI issue. Julia Thompson [My first presence on the list was an email I'd sent to Hector, which he forwarded to the list at Mon, 06 May 1996 15:19:48 -0400] Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 15:19:48 -0400 From: Yee Yang Li Hector [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@cornell.edu Subject: Why Asimov chose an all-human Galaxy Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 13:54:36 -0500 X-PH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cornell Modified) From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yang Li Hector Yee) Subject: Why Asimov chose an all-human Galaxy X-URL: http://infinity.resnet.cornell.edu/brin/brin.html Actually, Isaac chose an all-human galaxy due to his editor, John W. Campbell. Campbell always believed humans would win out against aliens every time. He believed that even though aliens might have better technology, or other advantages, there was always something unusual about humans that would let our species win. Isaac felt this had something to do with some subconscious racist biases of Campbell's, and the two argued about it. Isaac wanted to avoid the whole matter by avoiding aliens. YEE YANG LI HECTOR Cornell University
Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
Steve Sloan wrote: Russell Chapman wrote: I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list actually started? I'm sure there are people here who were here well before me (Julia and Steve for starters), so it must be close to a decade old. The list is 10 years, 13 days old. Happy Anniversary! I just searched through my hard drive to find my oldest saved emails. I found a zip file containing archived digests from before I joined, including digest number #1. The first post of digest #1 was sent by Stewart Blandon on Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT). IIRC, digest mode was not set up on the first day of the list. I think the first day of the list was sometime in the 6th-10th range. I could be wrong, though. [Julia's first post was time stamped Tue, 23 Apr 1996 08:46:07 -0500 (CDT), eight days after the first list post.] Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 08:46:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: Godel Turing problem On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, Yee Yang Li Hector wrote: Just wondering: If you're familiar with the Godel incompleteness theorem and the Turing halting problem (I've had a passing familiarity with them), could someone try to explain away the existence of sentient computers in the Galactic Center / the Startide universe / the Heart of the comet / Earth universes? If I recall correctly, Godel's theorem shows that any formal system that included arithmetic was either incomplete or inconsistent. Does that not mean that any computation system cannot be sentient because it cannot include arithmetic? Someone mentioned this in one of the newsgroups I subscribe to (can't remember which one, unfortunately) and pointed us to an essay he had put on the web: http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/Godel_vs_AI.html I would recommend reading this, if you're interested in the Godel/AI issue. Julia Thompson The link still works. I'm impressed. And I still recommend it. :) (That particular e-mail address I posted from is no longer valid, though.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
On this date . . .
. . . in 1933, the U.S. minimum wage was set at 40 cents an hour. (Yeah, but at least it was worth something then . . . ) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: On this date . . .
On Jul 12, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: . . . in 1933, the U.S. minimum wage was set at 40 cents an hour. Adjusting for inflation, we've backslid. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
