Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
Deborah Harrell wrote: >>"Lance A. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >>>Andre Norton wrote a children's book called _Star >>>Cat_ IIRC, about a race of telepathic >>>interstellar-travelling cats...hmm, maybe we've >>>mentioned that here previously. >> >>Oh my. I own a copy of that book. :-) And here's the listing in my catalog: http://www.librarything.com/work/13020/details/22630618 My own cat is a strictly indoor star kitty, although she'll chase comet tails all over the place. :-) -- Celebrate The Circle http://www.celebratethecircle.org/ Carolina Spirit Quest http://www.carolinaspiritquest.org/ My LiveJournal http://www.livejournal.com/users/labrown/ GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
> "Lance A. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Deborah Harrell wrote: > > Andre Norton wrote a children's book called _Star > > Cat_ IIRC, about a race of telepathic > > interstellar-travelling cats...hmm, maybe we've > > mentioned that here previously. > > Oh my. I own a copy of that book. :-) Having my own two star-kitties (...hmmm, maybe that ought to be 'owned by'), I can attest to their insistence on what they want, how they want it, and when they want it! Bashir has pretty much given up on chasing deer and turkeys; I guess without some sort of ray-gun, he's finally realized that he can't bring home the venison or drumsticks. Debbi Randomly Accessing Maru Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 2:03 PM, Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Deborah Harrell wrote: >> >>>Andre Norton wrote a children's book called _Star Cat_ >>>IIRC, about a race of telepathic >>>interstellar-travelling cats...hmm, maybe we've >>>mentioned that here previously. >> >>Oh my. I own a copy of that book. :-) > > > I've never read that one, but I just re-read _Cat-A-Lyst_ by Alan Dean > Foster. It's not exactly worldview-changing stuff, but it's a fun > read if you're in the mood for something light and silly. I picked up my copy of _Star Cat_ in, I think, 4th grade, as a "Scholastic Book Club" selection. :-) Definitely a light read these days. --[Lance] -- Celebrate The Circle http://www.celebratethecircle.org/ Carolina Spirit Quest http://www.carolinaspiritquest.org/ My LiveJournal http://www.livejournal.com/users/labrown/ GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
On Nov 7, 2007 2:03 PM, Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > Andre Norton wrote a children's book called _Star Cat_ > > IIRC, about a race of telepathic > > interstellar-travelling cats...hmm, maybe we've > > mentioned that here previously. > > Oh my. I own a copy of that book. :-) I've never read that one, but I just re-read _Cat-A-Lyst_ by Alan Dean Foster. It's not exactly worldview-changing stuff, but it's a fun read if you're in the mood for something light and silly. -- Mauro Diotallevi "Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now." -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
Deborah Harrell wrote: > Andre Norton wrote a children's book called _Star Cat_ > IIRC, about a race of telepathic > interstellar-travelling cats...hmm, maybe we've > mentioned that here previously. Oh my. I own a copy of that book. :-) --[Lance] -- Celebrate The Circle http://www.celebratethecircle.org/ Carolina Spirit Quest http://www.carolinaspiritquest.org/ My LiveJournal http://www.livejournal.com/users/labrown/ GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
> Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > 10/4/2007, Deborah Harrell wrote: > >Not to underplay Himself's importance or > brilliance, > >but genetic engineering of 'lower' animals to get > >intelligent servants/companions is not His > invention: > >the book I just referenced, _Breed To Come_ is > >about gengineered cats > Do you think cats would see being made more like > humans as an improvement? > At Least They Could Use The Can Opener Maru And wouldn't Lihleete be delighted to do that herself? But of course all us'n cat-owned know th' answer to yer qwery: *MMMrroewNO!** It would be a major step downward from their current multidimentional existence. Andre Norton wrote a children's book called _Star Cat_ IIRC, about a race of telepathic interstellar-travelling cats...hmm, maybe we've mentioned that here previously. Debbi who shockingly remembers enough organic chemistry (from 'way back in 1979 I think!) to help tutor a younger friend today...alkane, alkadiene, 1,3-dichlorocycloheptane... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
On 10/8/07, Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:06 AM Monday 10/8/2007, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > >On 10/5/07, Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If you get a chance to pick up the series by John Scalzi: Old Man's War , > > > The Last War and The Ghost Brigades, do so, they were an excellent read. > > > >Scalzi's latest book, _The Android's Dream_, reads like Douglas Adams > >and Peter David at a Monty Python convention. Beware: this book is > >not for you if you are offended by extended fart jokes... > > > How extended? 5 seconds? Ten? Thirty? More? The entire first chapter is one long fart joke, as well as being the originating incident that kicks off the story. The farting itself takes place over the course of a full hour of story-internal time. And yet, as well as being extremely funny and at points, *very* juvenile, this book somehow this manages to be exceedingly intelligent and thought-provoking. -- Mauro Diotallevi "Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now." -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
At 09:06 AM Monday 10/8/2007, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: >On 10/5/07, Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you get a chance to pick up the series by John Scalzi: Old Man's War , > > The Last War and The Ghost Brigades, do so, they were an excellent read. > >Scalzi's latest book, _The Android's Dream_, reads like Douglas Adams >and Peter David at a Monty Python convention. Beware: this book is >not for you if you are offended by extended fart jokes... How extended? 5 seconds? Ten? Thirty? More? --Ronn! :) "Bathroom humor is an American-Standard." ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
On 10/5/07, Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you get a chance to pick up the series by John Scalzi: Old Man's War , > The Last War and The Ghost Brigades, do so, they were an excellent read. Scalzi's latest book, _The Android's Dream_, reads like Douglas Adams and Peter David at a Monty Python convention. Beware: this book is not for you if you are offended by extended fart jokes... -- Mauro Diotallevi "Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now." -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
> Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: > Watching a Deep Space 9 episode, something caught my attention. --->snip<--- > Is this an Uplift rip-off? The Ghost Brigades by John Scalzi mentions "uplifted" races as part of his story plot. At the end of the book he acknowledges and credits the idea as originating with Dr. Brin. If you get a chance to pick up the series by John Scalzi: Old Man's War , The Last War and The Ghost Brigades, do so, they were an excellent read. Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
> Ronn! Blankenship wrote > > Do you think cats would see being made more like humans as an > improvement? > > At Least They Could Use The Can Opener Maru I'm pretty sure the only thing cats would possibly want is opposable thumbs. Then they would surely rule the world. (And be able to use the can opener, of course.) I shudder at the thought... - jmh CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
At 03:34 PM Thursday 10/4/2007, Deborah Harrell wrote: >Not to underplay Himself's importance or brilliance, >but genetic engineering of 'lower' animals to get >intelligent servants/companions is not His invention: >the book I just referenced, _Breed To Come_ is about >gengineered cats Do you think cats would see being made more like humans as an improvement? At Least They Could Use The Can Opener Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
> Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > and what about _Planet of the Apes_? > This is not Uplift, this is time-travel paradox. The > apes become intelligent because they inherit from > Caesar, > and Caeser is intelligent because his parents com > from > the future where chimpanzees are intelligent. I thought there was something about a virus that wiped out dogs and cats, and chimps were tinkered with gene-wise, which is why Caesar's parents were smart? But that might have been in one of the movies, not the original book... > [ok, but what about gorillas and orangutans?] Some pesky gene-transfering virus, of course! Debbi You Lift Me Up Maru :) Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
Deborah Harrell wrote: > > Not to underplay Himself's importance or brilliance, > but genetic engineering of 'lower' animals to get > intelligent servants/companions is not His invention: > the book I just referenced, _Breed To Come_ is about > gengineered cats and was written sometime in the late > '60's or early '70's, > Ok. I think I had read some stories with Uplift prior to His Canon too. > and what about _Planet of the Apes_? > This is not Uplift, this is time-travel paradox. The apes become intelligent because they inherit from Caesar, and Caeser is intelligent because his parents com from the future where chimpanzees are intelligent. [ok, but what about gorillas and orangutans?] Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br*n: Uplift at Star Trek
> Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: > Watching a Deep Space 9 episode, something caught my > attention. > > Quoting from: > http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Vorta#History_and_Politics > > The Vorta believe, perhaps apocryphally, that they > previously > existed as small, timid, ape-like creatures living > in hollowed-out > trees to avoid the many predators on their > homeworld. A group > of Vorta hid a Changeling from an angry mob, and > in return the > Changeling promised that one day they would be > transformed > and placed at the head of a vast interstellar > empire. The > Founders fulfilled this promise by genetically > changing the > Vorta into humanoids and employing them at the > highest > level of the Dominion. (DS9: "Treachery, Faith and > the Great River") > > Is this an Uplift rip-off? Not to underplay Himself's importance or brilliance, but genetic engineering of 'lower' animals to get intelligent servants/companions is not His invention: the book I just referenced, _Breed To Come_ is about gengineered cats and was written sometime in the late '60's or early '70's, and what about _Planet of the Apes_? Oh, and somebody recommended _Footfall_, which I am nearly through, and in addition to the gengineered "oliphaunts", there is I think a reference to Himself's work WRT 'if somebody loved dolphins, whales and chimps...' Debbi Starting At The Near End Maru :) Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
