Re: Indigo and Umami
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 03:14 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: > >> (Oh, and Resident Color Expert warns that magenta, pink and brown are >> *not* rainbow colors, just in case anyone thought any of them might be, or >> ought to be.) > > > Magenta, however, is a secondary additive color, or a primary > subtractive color, along with cyan and yellow. You can find yellow in the Sun's spectrum. You can't find magenta in the Sun's spectrum. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Indigo and Umami
Actually the colors are or, argent, gules, vert, azul, purpure, and sable. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:07:18 -0500 > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Indigo and Umami > > At 03:14 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: > > >On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM, William T Goodall > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours > > >> (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet > > >> and umami became the fifth basic flavour. > > > > > > I thought that there were still 7 colors of the rainbow *including* > > > indigo. I learned the colors as ROY G BIV -- Red Orange Yellow Green > > > Blue Indigo Violet. > > > > > > Or did you learn a different system? > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo > > > >"Color scientists do not usually recognize indigo as a significant color > >category, and generally classify wavelengths shorter than about 450 nm as > >violet." > > > >Also, there's a source text from the 19th century at Wikipedia on this > >very question; the tinyurl for it is http://tinyurl.com/5f8afl > > > >My resident color expert says it's just a word game. :) Then again, he > >knows more about color *science* than color *words*. > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow#The_place_of_indigo > >"All the Roy G. Biv mnemonics follow the tradition of including the colour > >indigo between blue and violet. Newton originally (1672) named only five > >primary colours: red, yellow, green, blue and violet. Only later did he > >introduce orange and indigo, giving seven colours by analogy to the number > >of notes in a musical scale. Some sources now omit indigo, because it > >is a tertiary color and partly due to the poor ability of humans to > >distinguish colours in the blue portion of the visual spectrum." > > > >My kids' crayon boxes have red, orange, yellow, green, blue and violet; if > >you buy a box of 8 crayons, you get all those but not indigo. I > >personally conform to the crayon box school of "rainbow colors". > > > >(Oh, and Resident Color Expert warns that magenta, pink and brown are > >*not* rainbow colors, just in case anyone thought any of them might be, or > >ought to be.) > > > Magenta, however, is a secondary additive color, or a primary > subtractive color, along with cyan and yellow. > > > . . . ronn! :) > > > > ___ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Indigo and Umami
At 03:14 PM Tuesday 7/22/2008, Julia Thompson wrote: >On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM, William T Goodall > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours > >> (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet > >> and umami became the fifth basic flavour. > > > > I thought that there were still 7 colors of the rainbow *including* > > indigo. I learned the colors as ROY G BIV -- Red Orange Yellow Green > > Blue Indigo Violet. > > > > Or did you learn a different system? > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo > >"Color scientists do not usually recognize indigo as a significant color >category, and generally classify wavelengths shorter than about 450 nm as >violet." > >Also, there's a source text from the 19th century at Wikipedia on this >very question; the tinyurl for it is http://tinyurl.com/5f8afl > >My resident color expert says it's just a word game. :) Then again, he >knows more about color *science* than color *words*. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow#The_place_of_indigo >"All the Roy G. Biv mnemonics follow the tradition of including the colour >indigo between blue and violet. Newton originally (1672) named only five >primary colours: red, yellow, green, blue and violet. Only later did he >introduce orange and indigo, giving seven colours by analogy to the number >of notes in a musical scale. Some sources now omit indigo, because it >is a tertiary color and partly due to the poor ability of humans to >distinguish colours in the blue portion of the visual spectrum." > >My kids' crayon boxes have red, orange, yellow, green, blue and violet; if >you buy a box of 8 crayons, you get all those but not indigo. I >personally conform to the crayon box school of "rainbow colors". > >(Oh, and Resident Color Expert warns that magenta, pink and brown are >*not* rainbow colors, just in case anyone thought any of them might be, or >ought to be.) Magenta, however, is a secondary additive color, or a primary subtractive color, along with cyan and yellow. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Indigo and Umami
On 22 Jul 2008, at 20:58, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM, William T Goodall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours >> (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet >> and umami became the fifth basic flavour. > > I thought that there were still 7 colors of the rainbow *including* > indigo. I learned the colors as ROY G BIV -- Red Orange Yellow Green > Blue Indigo Violet. > > Or did you learn a different system? When I was in high school back in the 70s a biology teacher explained that Newton squeezed indigo into the rainbow because of his numerological obsessions. And we got to look at the Ishihara colour test cards and discovered one of our classmates was colour blind. Bit of a shock for him, but it's OK he's a consultant surgeon now. Not a pilot Maru. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ "I wish developing great products was as easy as writing a check. If so, then Microsoft would have great products." - Steve Jobs ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Indigo and Umami
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM, William T Goodall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours >> (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet >> and umami became the fifth basic flavour. > > I thought that there were still 7 colors of the rainbow *including* > indigo. I learned the colors as ROY G BIV -- Red Orange Yellow Green > Blue Indigo Violet. > > Or did you learn a different system? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo "Color scientists do not usually recognize indigo as a significant color category, and generally classify wavelengths shorter than about 450 nm as violet." Also, there's a source text from the 19th century at Wikipedia on this very question; the tinyurl for it is http://tinyurl.com/5f8afl My resident color expert says it's just a word game. :) Then again, he knows more about color *science* than color *words*. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow#The_place_of_indigo "All the Roy G. Biv mnemonics follow the tradition of including the colour indigo between blue and violet. Newton originally (1672) named only five primary colours: red, yellow, green, blue and violet. Only later did he introduce orange and indigo, giving seven colours by analogy to the number of notes in a musical scale. Some sources now omit indigo, because it is a tertiary color and partly due to the poor ability of humans to distinguish colours in the blue portion of the visual spectrum." My kids' crayon boxes have red, orange, yellow, green, blue and violet; if you buy a box of 8 crayons, you get all those but not indigo. I personally conform to the crayon box school of "rainbow colors". (Oh, and Resident Color Expert warns that magenta, pink and brown are *not* rainbow colors, just in case anyone thought any of them might be, or ought to be.) Julia Bored Enough To Write a Post This Long Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Indigo and Umami
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mauro Diotallevi > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:59 PM > To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion > Subject: Re: Indigo and Umami > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM, William T Goodall > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours > > (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet > > and umami became the fifth basic flavour. > > I thought that there were still 7 colors of the rainbow *including* > indigo. I learned the colors as ROY G BIV -- Red Orange Yellow Green > Blue Indigo Violet. > > Or did you learn a different system? Well, when I was a kid I noticed that the colors blended to the point that I couldn't tell. Now that I'm older, I know there is a rich infinity of colors in the rainbow. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Indigo and Umami
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:04 PM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours > (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet > and umami became the fifth basic flavour. I thought that there were still 7 colors of the rainbow *including* indigo. I learned the colors as ROY G BIV -- Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet. Or did you learn a different system? -- Mauro Diotallevi Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Don't drink and derive. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Indigo and Umami
On 20/07/2008, at 4:13 PM, Max Battcher wrote: > William T Goodall wrote: >> There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours >> (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet >> and umami became the fifth basic flavour. > > Don't forget that we're down to 8 planets and up to 2 plutoids (Pluto, > Eris). And Ceres should be a "Plutoid" or a planetoid (as it's collapsed to near-spherical under its own gravity), but the rules are stupid and subjective. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Indigo and Umami
On 20/07/2008, at 4:13 PM, Max Battcher wrote: > William T Goodall wrote: >> There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours >> (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet >> and umami became the fifth basic flavour. > > Don't forget that we're down to 8 planets and up to 2 plutoids (Pluto, > Eris). Just to confuse things even further, I think the current count is 4 dwarf-planets (Ceres + ) 3 of which are plutoids (Eris, Makemake, Pluto,) and many many plutoid candidates... :s ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Indigo and Umami
William T Goodall wrote: > There used to be seven colours in a rainbow and four basic flavours > (sweet, sour, bitter, salt) and then indigo became a shade of violet > and umami became the fifth basic flavour. Don't forget that we're down to 8 planets and up to 2 plutoids (Pluto, Eris). -- --Max Battcher-- http://www.worldmaker.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
