Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Land

On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote:


On 9/5/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It'll be a while 'til you can get a copy of OS X that will run on
non-Apple Intel hardware, but in the meanwhile, FreeBSD itself is  
very
well-regarded from a security standpoint and has all the requisite  
bits

and pieces.

And when you *can* get a copy of OS X that will run on arbitrary  
Intel

hardware, you will be in for the treat of your Unixy life.


I assume you meant to prefix legally in front of every ocurrence  
of a

copy, correct?


A1. Of course. I used to work for Apple, for goodness' sake!

A2. Hell, no. I sold my Apple stock years ago.

A3. That's YOUR problem. I'm only theorizing about what might be
possible. I won't have to answer to Apple's lawyers should you
choose to cross any legal lines. (Don't forget, I used to work
for Apple, so I could have a few handy phone numbers in my
address book.) (And don't forget, I sold my Apple stock years
ago. What do I care what you do?)

Dave And Every Copy I Have is 100% Legal Land

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Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions

2005-09-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 9/5/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 So, any recommendations?
 
 _
 ¹As I mentioned a few days ago when I was trying
 to get these new hard drives installed, I have
 the latest version (8.0) of Partition Magic and
 the Boot Magic program which comes with it in
 order to accomplish this (though I haven't set
 them up that way yet), and I left 100GB on the
 primary hard drive for a Linux partition, just in
 case those facts are of significance . . .
 
 
 -- Ronn! :)
 

Well, Ubuntu plays nice with Windows, as do Fedora and Mandrake. Linspire is 
(I think) temporarily free as in beer, and SuSe is fairly popular. Of 
course, there is Debian as well, if you are the moral Free Software type, 
but Ubuntu is generally more useable. It's good you left a primary partition 
open. That'll make things easier.
If you don't mind building the distro yourself mostly, Gentoo has 
unparalleled comprehensive package management, which is also the most 
up-to-date. My personal experience is that it's somewhat unstable (one 
particular program, ncurses, particularly fubars things up), though as 
always YMMV.

~Maru
is a universe of possibilities. We haven't even *begun* to discuss the other 
Unixes out there!
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Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions

2005-09-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 07:57 PM Monday 9/5/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote:

On 9/5/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So, any recommendations?

 _
 ¹As I mentioned a few days ago when I was trying
 to get these new hard drives installed, I have
 the latest version (8.0) of Partition Magic and
 the Boot Magic program which comes with it in
 order to accomplish this (though I haven't set
 them up that way yet), and I left 100GB on the
 primary hard drive for a Linux partition, just in
 case those facts are of significance . . .


 -- Ronn! :)


Well, Ubuntu plays nice with Windows,




I was just reading about it in today's OSTG 
update (the first I had heard of it), and was thinking about it . . .





 as do Fedora and Mandrake.




Those are two of the ones I have on CD, although 
they may not be the most recent releases.





Linspire is
(I think) temporarily free as in beer, and SuSe is fairly popular.




I think I have a version of that somewhere, too.




Of
course, there is Debian as well, if you are the moral Free Software type,
but Ubuntu is generally more useable. It's good you left a primary partition
open. That'll make things easier.




Just because I sometimes ask simple questions 
doesn't mean that I am totally stupid.  ;)





If you don't mind building the distro yourself mostly, Gentoo has
unparalleled comprehensive package management, which is also the most
up-to-date.




For right now I think I want something which will 
be ready out of the box, and maybe later look at upgrading to something else.





 My personal experience is that it's somewhat unstable (one
particular program, ncurses, particularly fubars things up), though as
always YMMV.




Speaking of such, I just tried to uninstall a 
small program I've been using successfully for 
months and reinstalled it on the new disk.  I 
then spent the next hour or so downloading 
drivers from M$.com because the computer would not boot up properly.





~Maru
is a universe of possibilities. We haven't even *begun* to discuss the other
Unixes out there!



Any suggestions appreciated.



-- Ronn!  :)



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Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions

2005-09-05 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 9/5/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sep 5, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 
  is a universe of possibilities. We haven't even *begun* to discuss
  the
  other Unixes out there!
 
  Any suggestions appreciated.
 
 Then I hope you won't mind a mention of FreeBSD, about which I knew
 nothing
 until I started using a FreeBSD-based flavor of Unix recently, one
 from a
 certain fruit-themed company in Cupertino.
 
 It'll be a while 'til you can get a copy of OS X that will run on
 non-Apple Intel hardware, but in the meanwhile, FreeBSD itself is very
 well-regarded from a security standpoint and has all the requisite bits
 and pieces.
 
 And when you *can* get a copy of OS X that will run on arbitrary Intel
 hardware, you will be in for the treat of your Unixy life.
 
 Dave


I assume you meant to prefix legally in front of every ocurrence of a 
copy, correct?

~Maru
Now me, my opinion of Mac OS X is that adherents of it are merely attempting 
to raise a prettier monopoly in place of Microsoft. MS learned from the 
best.
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