Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-21 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM, William T Goodall
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 On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:59, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall
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 _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the
 forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_.

 And a dash of Battlestar Galactica.

 That's a bit tenuous. The final five?

I was thinking more in terms of sleeper agents.


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Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-21 Thread William T Goodall

On 21 Oct 2008, at 19:27, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM, William T Goodall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:59, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the
 forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_.

 And a dash of Battlestar Galactica.

 That's a bit tenuous. The final five?

 I was thinking more in terms of sleeper agents.


The fifth-columnist aspect of that is somewhat relevant but I think  
the dual-identity theme although related is different. I don't have an  
explanation and am just putting it up for discussion but it's  
interesting that the TV Zeitgeist has thrown this up this year. I  
suspect that Whedon's twist on the notion may be more subversive than  
_My Own Worst Enemy_ :-)

Plausible Deniability Maru


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RE: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-21 Thread Max Battcher
WTG wrote:
 The fifth-columnist aspect of that is somewhat relevant but I think
 the dual-identity theme although related is different. I don't have an
 explanation and am just putting it up for discussion but it's
 interesting that the TV Zeitgeist has thrown this up this year. I
 suspect that Whedon's twist on the notion may be more subversive than
 _My Own Worst Enemy_ :-)

The dual-identity theme seems very PKD-like at first, but I think that it
makes the most sense in comparison to the lead-in show *Chuck*.  They both
seem to be two sides of the same escapist coin, where one average man ends
up a wild spy life (one with a computer in his brain, and the other with a
manufactured personality) with the real difference being drama versus
comedy.  One of the io9 commentators mentioned the idea of a Chuck/MOWE
cross-over, and I definitely agree that that might be exactly what the two
shows need: Chuck needs a little bit more serious stakes/drama at times and
MOWE needs to crack a joke more often...  

As for Dollhouse I don't see it being that similar...  sure it has the
personality switching thing, but where MOWE is pretty firmly spy-fi,
Dollhouse has the benefit/advantage/curse/undoing (depending on which side
of the consumer/producer divide you are on, of course) of being able to be
much more of a Thing a Week show vibrating amongst the action-variant
genres as it wants to, and switch gears completely as often as the audience
would allow.

On a complete tangent: Is anyone else surprised that not only can Mike
O'Malley (of Nickolodeon GUTS and _Yes, Dear_ fame) *act*, but he seems to
be the most interesting character(s) on MOWE?  At this point I'm wondering
if Raymond (Boy Scout) and Tom (OfficeSpace-reject) are in fact secretly
the real main characters of the show...

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Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-20 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall
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 _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the
 forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_.

And a dash of Battlestar Galactica.

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Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall

On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:59, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the
 forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_.

 And a dash of Battlestar Galactica.

That's a bit tenuous. The final five?

All connected Maru

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Re: TV Zeitgeist

2008-10-20 Thread William T Goodall

On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:59, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:45 PM, William T Goodall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 _My Own Worst Enemy_ seems to have a very similar concept to the
 forthcoming _Dollhouse_, mixed with a little bit of _Chuck_.

 And a dash of Battlestar Galactica.

Manchurian candidate?

What are they thinking Maru

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