Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
At 04:18 PM 3/6/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Bryon wrote: I also thought The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.and The Number of the Beast were both rather lousy, myself. I enjoyed Time Enough for Love, but he sure has some odd notions about sex in there (ie: the time travel incest thing). I haven't read _Time Enough for Love_, but there is a short story by Heinlein in which the main character ends up being his own father, mother, and child, and recruits himself to work at his current job. It's a very strange little story. By His Bootstraps. In TEfL, the main character clones himself as twin females with whom he goes on to have relations before using a time machine to go back in time and seduce his mother while he was a little boy. In _To Sail Beyond the Sunset_, we learn that his problem was apparently hereditary, as his mother had similar yearnings toward her father. The decision as to which family is stranger is left up to the reader. Time For The Stars, Anyone? Maru -- Ronn! :) Almighty Ruler of the all, Whose Power extends to great and small, Who guides the stars with steadfast law, Whose least creation fills with awe, O grant thy mercy and thy grace, To those who venture into space. (Robert A. Heinlein's added verse to the Navy Hymn) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
From: G. D. Akin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My sentimental favorite is Red Planet. I was home sick with the flu when I 10 or 11. My mother went to the library and on a lark she brought me Red Planet and Andre Norton's The Stars are Ours. I devoured them and have not been able to get enough SF since. My sentimental favorites for Heinlein are either The Star Beast or The Puppet Masters. My actual favorite is probably The Past Thru Tomorrow collection. Of course, I did name my cat Friday... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 05:29:45 -0600 At 04:18 PM 3/6/03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Bryon wrote: I also thought The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.and The Number of the Beast were both rather lousy, myself. I enjoyed Time Enough for Love, but he sure has some odd notions about sex in there (ie: the time travel incest thing). I haven't read _Time Enough for Love_, but there is a short story by Heinlein in which the main character ends up being his own father, mother, and child, and recruits himself to work at his current job. It's a very strange little story. By His Bootstraps. In TEfL, the main character clones himself as twin females with whom he goes on to have relations before using a time machine to go back in time and seduce his mother while he was a little boy. In _To Sail Beyond the Sunset_, we learn that his problem was apparently hereditary, as his mother had similar yearnings toward her father. The decision as to which family is stranger is left up to the reader. I always thought it unfortunate that Heinlein didn't have Lazarus Long blind himself in an Oedipal fit somewhere along the line. The man was irony-deficient. :) Jon _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: John Garcia wrote: my favorite is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but...my sentimental favorite is Space Cadet, as it is the very first book I took out from the local library the day I got my first library card in the 1st grade. A sub-category of My Favorite Heinelin is My First Heinelin (sentimental or otherwise). My sentimental favorite is Red Planet. I was home sick with the flu when I 10 or 11. My mother went to the library and on a lark she brought me Red Planet and Andre Norton's The Stars are Ours. I devoured them and have not been able to get enough SF since. George A ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
Doug Pensinger wrote: From years of being on this list. The last Heinlein I attempted to read was (I think) The Cat Who Walked Through Walls. Awful, and probably why I haven't been inspired to read anything of his for a long time. I also thought The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.and The Number of the Beast were both rather lousy, myself. I enjoyed Time Enough for Love, but he sure has some odd notions about sex in there (ie: the time travel incest thing). I also enjoy a lot of Heinlein's short stories, particularly The Past Through Tomorrow collection. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
Bryon wrote: I also thought The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.and The Number of the Beast were both rather lousy, myself. I enjoyed Time Enough for Love, but he sure has some odd notions about sex in there (ie: the time travel incest thing). I haven't read _Time Enough for Love_, but there is a short story by Heinlein in which the main character ends up being his own father, mother, and child, and recruits himself to work at his current job. It's a very strange little story. Reggie Bautista _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7 G. D. Akin wrote: Okay, I want to play My Favorite Heinlein. Time Enough for Love Stranger in a Strange Land. But I read it nearly 30 years ago so I'm not certain that I'd still like it. I also haven't read several of his best. So, how do you know they're his best? (Not being snotty, just curious). Anyway, re-read it, in fact re-read the ucut version. George A ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
-Original Message- From: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 03:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7 Doug wrote: Stranger in a Strange Land. But I read it nearly 30 years ago so I'm not certain that I'd still like it. George replied: Anyway, re-read it, in fact re-read the ucut version. If you have the time and the patience, reread the original version and the uncut version side by side. It's really interesting to see how he cut a line here, a word there, and then suddenly whole pages are missing, then another word here or line there. Any grand insights into the net effect? -j- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 09:59 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: G. D. Akin wrote: Okay, I want to play My Favorite Heinlein. Time Enough for Love Stranger in a Strange Land. But I read it nearly 30 years ago so I'm not certain that I'd still like it. I also haven't read several of his best. Doug my favorite is The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but...my sentimental favorite is Space Cadet, as it is the very first book I took out from the local library the day I got my first library card in the 1st grade. john ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
I wrote: If you have the time and the patience, reread the original version [of _Stranger in a Strange Land_] and the uncut version side by side. It's really interesting to see how he cut a line here, a word there, and then suddenly whole pages are missing, then another word here or line there. Jeffrey Miller replied: Any grand insights into the net effect? The uncut version has much more character, in both senses of the word. It's also an interesting to see which descriptions Heinlein found most vital, and which merely added extra color or emphasis, but were not central to the story he was telling. As a music student at UMKC, I had the privilege of participating in a lecture and QA session with composer Samuel Adler, who studied composition with Aaron Copland, Paul Hindemith, and Randall Thompson, among others. One question he urged us to continually ask ourselves as composers is, Do you love every note? If you don't truly love a note, don't put it in your piece. If you aren't sure which note to use in a particular context, don't over-intellectualize about it, figure out which one you love most and use that one. Reading the the two versions of _SiaSL_ side by side is a very interesting study in how do you love every note applies to storytelling. Reggie Bautista _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
G. D. Akin wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7 G. D. Akin wrote: Okay, I want to play My Favorite Heinlein. Time Enough for Love Stranger in a Strange Land. But I read it nearly 30 years ago so I'm not certain that I'd still like it. I also haven't read several of his best. So, how do you know they're his best? (Not being snotty, just curious). From years of being on this list. The last Heinlein I attempted to read was (I think) The Cat Who Walked Through Walls. Awful, and probably why I haven't been inspired to read anything of his for a long time. Anyway, re-read it, in fact re-read the ucut version. Actually I picked up a copy a few months ago to do just that, but now I'm wondering if I should find a copy of the uncut one. Doug GCU So Much to Read... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7 In a message dated 3/3/2003 7:33:12 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's always interesting to see what suggestions for novels are posted by other list members. It offers an interesting insight into their personalities. Well, you know my suggestions for novels: The Hoon win the America's cup. A few billion Tandu pop out of D-Space all at once. Traeki use boo air compression cannons to fire chemical warfare pumpkins at the Johpur. Those Thennanin spy recordings are actually So if you don't mind me asking, what's your favorite Heinlein novel? Or are you much of a fan? Reggie Bautista William Taylor --- While we wait for the good Dr. Brin, it's Moon for me. Okay, I want to play My Favorite Heinlein. Time Enough for Love George A ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
G. D. Akin wrote: Okay, I want to play My Favorite Heinlein. Time Enough for Love Stranger in a Strange Land. But I read it nearly 30 years ago so I'm not certain that I'd still like it. I also haven't read several of his best. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7 G. D. Akin wrote: Okay, I want to play My Favorite Heinlein. Time Enough for Love Stranger in a Strange Land. But I read it nearly 30 years ago so I'm not certain that I'd still like it. I also haven't read several of his best. My favorite is still The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: br!n: it's 3-3-3, in 4-4-4 it will be 7-7-7
In a message dated 3/3/2003 7:33:12 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's always interesting to see what suggestions for novels are posted by other list members. It offers an interesting insight into their personalities. Well, you know my suggestions for novels: The Hoon win the America's cup. A few billion Tandu pop out of D-Space all at once. Traeki use boo air compression cannons to fire chemical warfare pumpkins at the Johpur. Those Thennanin spy recordings are actually So if you don't mind me asking, what's your favorite Heinlein novel? Or are you much of a fan? Reggie Bautista William Taylor --- While we wait for the good Dr. Brin, it's Moon for me. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 3/3/2003 8:37:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not much for fannish stuff, but what I would consider to be fun would be a thread where we make up punnish chapter titles a la Kiln People. Or like Groo we could have secret messages in every chapter? Please I'd lika a tail on our kite. So perhaps you'd place it correctly, sir? I don't think he could be like H. Beam Piper and insert a math error into every novel. An Uplift War chapter title: The problem with a mound is that sometimes you feel like a nut Brightness Reef chapter title: Huck'll burry Hoon's doggedness. Sundiver chapter title: Aye! He's eyes owe you Startide Rising chapter title: Epee in the Coal Hole, or the Sly-assed Mariner. Postman chapter title: Mail ego thataway. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
