Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-06-14 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:38 PM 5/31/2003 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2) What is wrong with that strategy? It seems to me we are finally doing 
 what
 is necessary to make the world a better place to live in, even if, 
 especially
 if, you are a middle eastern Muslim. War is never the best way to solve
 anything. I do not believe I am mistaken when I say that I think we tried 
 all
 the better ways. If not, I sure would like to hear what they are.
 

Then why not admit it? Why not tell the truth? Why not just come right out 
and say that's what they were doing? They were going to be castigated by
much of 
the rest of the world anyway - so why not simply be honest and tell the
truth 
right from the start?

Because we are a republic, and the reasons that were most important to them
may not have been the reasons that would have resounded the loudest with
the electorate and their elected representaties.

JDG
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Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-06-01 Thread TomFODW
 2) What is wrong with that strategy? It seems to me we are finally doing 
 what
 is necessary to make the world a better place to live in, even if, 
 especially
 if, you are a middle eastern Muslim. War is never the best way to solve
 anything. I do not believe I am mistaken when I say that I think we tried 
 all
 the better ways. If not, I sure would like to hear what they are.
 

Then why not admit it? Why not tell the truth? Why not just come right out 
and say that's what they were doing? They were going to be castigated by much of 
the rest of the world anyway - so why not simply be honest and tell the truth 
right from the start?



Tom Beck

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WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-05-31 Thread Reggie Bautista
From http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=410730
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P121212C4
Excerpt:

WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz
By David Usborne
30 May 2003
The Bush administration focused on alleged weapons of mass destruction as 
the primary justification for toppling Saddam Hussein by force because it 
was politically convenient, a top-level official at the Pentagon has 
acknowledged.

The extraordinary admission comes in an interview with Paul Wolfowitz, the 
Deputy Defence Secretary, in the July issue of the magazine Vanity Fair.

Mr Wolfowitz also discloses that there was one justification that was 
almost unnoticed but huge. That was the prospect of the United States 
being able to withdraw all of its forces from Saudi Arabia once the threat 
of Saddam had been removed. Since the taking of Baghdad, Washington has said 
that it is taking its troops out of the kingdom. Just lifting that burden 
from the Saudis is itself going to the door towards making progress 
elsewhere in achieving Middle East peace, Mr Wolfowitz said. The presence of 
the US military in Saudi Arabia has been one of the main grievances of 
al-Qa'ida and other terrorist groups.

For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass 
destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on, Mr 
Wolfowitz tells the magazine.

The comments suggest that, even for the US administration, the logic that 
was presented for going to war may have been an empty shell. They come to 
light, moreover, just two days after Mr Wolfowitz's immediate boss, Donald 
Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, conceded for the first time that the arms 
might never be found.

(more on the website)

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Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-05-31 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote:
From 
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=410730
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P121212C4
Excerpt:

WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz
By David Usborne
30 May 2003
My shorter link didn't work.  Here's one that does:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?X151252C4
Reggie Bautista
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Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-05-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz
 By David Usborne
 30 May 2003
 
 The extraordinary admission comes in an interview with Paul Wolfowitz, the 
 Deputy Defence Secretary, in the July issue of the magazine Vanity Fair.
 
 Mr Wolfowitz also discloses that there was one justification that was 
 almost unnoticed but huge. That was the prospect of the United States 
 being able to withdraw all of its forces from Saudi Arabia once the threat 
 of Saddam had been removed. 

Ok, 2 thing, 1 silly, one very important:

1) Vanity Fair?...Well, I guess that is better than quating the NY Times.
2) What is wrong with that strategy? It seems to me we are finally doing what
is necessary to make the world a better place to live in, even if, especially
if, you are a middle eastern Muslim. War is never the best way to solve
anything. I do not believe I am mistaken when I say that I think we tried all
the better ways. If not, I sure would like to hear what they are. 

Jan

Except for Tyranny, Slavery, Genocide, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, and
Terrorism, War has never solved anything.


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Re: WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz

2003-05-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz
 By David Usborne
 30 May 2003
 
 The extraordinary admission comes in an interview with Paul Wolfowitz, the 
 Deputy Defence Secretary, in the July issue of the magazine Vanity Fair.
 
 Mr Wolfowitz also discloses that there was one justification that was 
 almost unnoticed but huge. That was the prospect of the United States 
 being able to withdraw all of its forces from Saudi Arabia once the threat 
 of Saddam had been removed. 

Ok, 2 thing, 1 silly, one very important:

1) Vanity Fair?...Well, I guess that is better than quating the NY Times.
2) What is wrong with that strategy? It seems to me we are finally doing what
is necessary to make the world a better place to live in, even if, especially
if, you are a middle eastern Muslim. War is never the best way to solve
anything. I do not believe I am mistaken when I say that I think we tried all
the better ways. If not, I sure would like to hear what they are. 

Jan

Except for Tyranny, Slavery, Genocide, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, and
Terrorism, War has never solved anything.


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