Re: Why junk email will NEVER go away.

2006-11-18 Thread Julia Thompson

jdiebremse wrote:


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gary Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Last April, I created an email address to use for my mom at H & R

Block. I

only used that address for that one specific reason. I never posted it

or

used it for ANYTHING else. Since April, that email address has

received

just under 3000 pieces of spam.


Isn't it also possible that a bulk program sending e-mail to random
combinations of characters also hit you?

JDG


That's what happens with our domain a lot

Julia


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Re: Why junk email will NEVER go away.

2006-11-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - 
From: "jdiebremse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" 
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Why junk email will NEVER go away.





>Isn't it also possible that a bulk program sending e-mail to random
>combinations of characters also hit you?

Those of us who own websites certainly know what those look like. 
Since Gary sells domain names, I would think he could recognize the 
difference between randomly generated emails and targetted emails.
I know that the spam I get through my websites are almost always the 
nonsensical garbage that is sent mainly to see if it has hit a "good" 
email address. I always bounce it back via Mailwasher, so I rarely see 
a coherent sentence in any of the spam from amycd.com. With my regular 
email I almost always get advertisments who got my email from 
someplace where I signed up for something or another. When I do get a 
fishing (not to be confused with phishing) email it usually refers to 
me by an incorrect name, which is a certain tipoff that it is a random 
mass mailer.

I find that bouncing them back does help to keep the volume down.

xponent
Dot Com Suckage Maru
rob 


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Re: Why junk email will NEVER go away.

2006-11-18 Thread jdiebremse


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gary Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Last April, I created an email address to use for my mom at H & R
Block. I
> only used that address for that one specific reason. I never posted it
or
> used it for ANYTHING else. Since April, that email address has
received
> just under 3000 pieces of spam.

Isn't it also possible that a bulk program sending e-mail to random
combinations of characters also hit you?

JDG



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Re: Why junk email will NEVER go away.

2006-11-17 Thread maru dubshinki

On 11/14/06, Gary Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Last April, I created an email address to use for my mom at H & R Block.  I
only used that address for that one specific reason. I never posted it or
used it for ANYTHING else.  Since April, that email address has received
just under 3000 pieces of spam.

I emailed H&R block security with a complaint, and their response was that
when I checked the box and agreed to their terms of service, I agreed to
allow them to "share" my email address with "carefully selected partners".

I guess their carefully selected partners all sell sex aids, diet patches
and everything else you see in typical spam.

So, that made me go look at other online agreements at places I do business
with like Chase bank, credit card companies and so forth.

EVERY single company has that clause in their online terms of service that
indicate they can share your information with selected partners.

Spam will NEVER stop because companies will always share your email address
with their partners. Unfortunately, in the case of H&R Block, their
carefully selected partners really meant whoever pays us the most for our
client list.

If you doubt this, go to any company you do business with and somewhere
buried in their terms of service or privacy statement will be the clause
allowing them to share you information.


The irony here is that Gmail tagged your email as spam.

~maru
I have plenty of spam, along with some spam (on spam), spammy spam
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Re: Why junk email will NEVER go away.

2006-11-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 14 Nov 2006 at 23:38, Gary Nunn wrote:

>  
> Last April, I created an email address to use for my mom at H & R Block.  I
> only used that address for that one specific reason. I never posted it or
> used it for ANYTHING else.  Since April, that email address has received
> just under 3000 pieces of spam.

Yep. That was a mistake - there are sites and programs which you can 
use to create an email address active ONLY for x emails.

For the rest, I run my own domain for quite a few reasons. (Any old 
timers might remember I offered @upliftwar.com emails, that still 
stands).

I personally chose to do my spam filtering client side, and Pegasus 
Mail now has an inbuilt baesian filter as well as the powerful rules-
based filtering it's had for some time.

AndrewC
Dawn Falcon

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Why junk email will NEVER go away.

2006-11-14 Thread Gary Nunn
 
Last April, I created an email address to use for my mom at H & R Block.  I
only used that address for that one specific reason. I never posted it or
used it for ANYTHING else.  Since April, that email address has received
just under 3000 pieces of spam.

I emailed H&R block security with a complaint, and their response was that
when I checked the box and agreed to their terms of service, I agreed to
allow them to "share" my email address with "carefully selected partners".  

I guess their carefully selected partners all sell sex aids, diet patches
and everything else you see in typical spam.

So, that made me go look at other online agreements at places I do business
with like Chase bank, credit card companies and so forth.

EVERY single company has that clause in their online terms of service that
indicate they can share your information with selected partners.

Spam will NEVER stop because companies will always share your email address
with their partners. Unfortunately, in the case of H&R Block, their
carefully selected partners really meant whoever pays us the most for our
client list.

If you doubt this, go to any company you do business with and somewhere
buried in their terms of service or privacy statement will be the clause
allowing them to share you information.

 

_

The Vulcan Neck Pinch is not half as powerful as the
Vulcan Groin Kick, but it's more politically correct. 
~ Quotes you'll never hear on Star Trek.

 


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