RE: shoelaces, concetration, stingy reactions and Re: dyslexiaandtinted lenses

2003-08-12 Thread Horn, John
 From: Sonja van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Well, about those shoes. ;o) I remember that a while back I 
 read about 
 some research into tying shoe laces. It showed that there are 
 many ways 
 to tie your laces but there are only one or two ways that 
 will result in 
 laces that will not continuously come undone. Well that, and 
 it helps if 
 you knot the loops of your toddies shoelaces once you tied 
 them. I don't 
 have the link to it, but if it exist maybe a benevolent listee
might 
 provide it for our amusement. :o)

Here you go:  Originally posted by the Fool:

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~gasmith/knots/knots.html

The old saying goes that: All I need to know I learned in
kindergarten.
Well, I certainly wish that somebody had told me about the proper
way to
tie my shoes back then! There is recent experimental evidence (but
don't
bother looking into any scientific journals for it) which suggests
there
is in fact a right and a wrong way to tie your shoes. The difference
is
subtle; the effect is not. Tie your shoes the right way and they
will
rarely come undone. Tie them the wrong way, and you will be
frequently
tripping over your shoelaces.

 - jmh
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Re: shoelaces, concetration, stingy reactions and Re: dyslexiaandtinted lenses

2003-08-07 Thread Jan Coffey

--- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Jan Coffey wrote:
 
 I also feel that it is necessary to note that there is a lot of quackery
 around learning disabilities. FREX The Gift of dyslexia is a
 non scientific book with absolutely ridiculous notions like dyslexics
 shoes
 come untied more often, and that dyslexic are clumbsy. There are studies
 by
 ~real~ scientists such as Shaywitz shoing that this stuff is nonsense.
 
 Well, about those shoes. ;o) I remember that a while back I read about 
 some research into tying shoe laces. It showed that there are many ways 
 to tie your laces but there are only one or two ways that will result in 
 laces that will not continuously come undone. Well that, and it helps if 
 you knot the loops of your toddies shoelaces once you tied them. I don't 
 have the link to it, but if it exist maybe a benevolent listee might 
 provide it for our amusement. :o)


Just passing on the info from real scientists. The thing you don't realize is
the links you provided refernce reasearchres the dyslexic comunity knows to
be quacks. There are hundreds of dyslexics out there who are being told that
their problem is simply solved with red glasses, that they are clumsy, that
they are inferior, that they need special help. It's all BS.



 One does not have to be autistic to have a heightened sense for such
 things as flickering lights or shrill electronics. The average person can
 only see
 flicker below some frequency (can't remember what it is just now) and
 the
 above average person can only here between 20 Htz and 20k Htz. There are
 individuals who can see and here better, and they are often distracted in
 learning environemnts that contain such noise.
   
 
 Thank you for the information. I personally have exceptionally good 
 hearing but found that I can shut it down or more like totally screen my 
 surroundings out while I work. It usually results in me being very 
 concentrated, the more so, the noisier the environs I'm working in get. 
 People have found that it then takes a considerable amount of effort to 
 get my attention once I'm in that state. So I sort of use the noises 
 around me to focus my thoughts and become very concentrated. Something I 
 found totally impossible in a silent room, where I would jump at even 
 the slightest of sounds.

You are one of millions of individuals on this planet who are lucky enough to
have autistic tendencies. Use your powers of concentration wisely. Recognize
those like you, and those deeper in do not suffer from a defect, they are not
broken, they do not need help. well, other than help being treated as an
equal in society.

 It is ridiculous to suggest that a student should wear dark red glasses
 when the lighting could simply be adjusted. Especialy if the student is
 autistic and is having a difficult enough time socialy anyway.
 
 Reading this (and Julia's response) I feel that I have to ask if either 
 you or Julia for that matter read or even glanced at the sites I pointed 
 to? The reason I'm asking is because f.i. information like below is on 
 one of the sites and both your responses seem to be oddly out of sync 
 with this and other things mentioned there.

 from http://www.read-eye.connectfree.co.uk/dyslexia.htm


Once again these people are quakcs. If you contact them as a concerenc=ed
parent of a shild with autism or dyslexia they will try and convince you that
all your childs problems are optical and can be fixed with red glasses.

 Visual stress is a condition that often contributes to reading 
 difficulties in adults and children. The condition is related to light 
 sensitivity in disorders such as migraine and epilepsy. It causes 
 distortions on the printed page when black print contrasts sharply with 
 a bright background.

So, DONT USE FLORESENT LIGHTS, and DON'T TURN THE LIGHTS ON BRIGHT!!!

Most public places have the lights on so bright and use floresets becouse
they are cheeper. Somewhere along the line people bought into an old wives
tale that dim lights are bad for your eyes. actuly bright lights are. No one
needs dark red lenses, what they need is the lights to be turned down.

 
 Visual stress is often a big part of the problem in Dyslexia,

No more so than it is for anyone else. remember these people use the term
Visual Dyslexia and then drop the visual so that they are just saying
dyslexia they are still not talking about the same thing. And if they are
they are lying.

 but can 
 also affect other poor readers and may cause eyestrain and headaches in 
 good readers.
 
 etc.
 
 disclaimer I didn't say, nor did I attempt to say that this in any way 
 applies to Jan, nor that it was _the_ solution to cure any or all 
 dyslexic and/or autistic people, nor did I say that every dyslexic can 
 become a normal reader by putting on dark red lenses, nor did I say that 
 every dyslexic is autistic or that every autistic person is dyslexic, or 
 a combination thereof. Nor did I as far as I know in any