--- Sonja van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan Coffey wrote: > > >I also feel that it is necessary to note that there is a lot of quackery > >around learning "disabilities". FREX "The Gift of dyslexia" is a > >non scientific book with absolutely ridiculous notions like dyslexics > shoes > >come untied more often, and that dyslexic are clumbsy. There are studies > by > >~real~ scientists such as Shaywitz shoing that this stuff is nonsense. > > > Well, about those shoes. ;o) I remember that a while back I read about > some research into tying shoe laces. It showed that there are many ways > to tie your laces but there are only one or two ways that will result in > laces that will not continuously come undone. Well that, and it helps if > you knot the loops of your toddies shoelaces once you tied them. I don't > have the link to it, but if it exist maybe a benevolent listee might > provide it for our amusement. :o)
Just passing on the info from real scientists. The thing you don't realize is the links you provided refernce "reasearchres" the dyslexic comunity knows to be quacks. There are hundreds of dyslexics out there who are being told that their problem is simply solved with red glasses, that they are clumsy, that they are inferior, that they need "special help". It's all BS. > >One does not have to be autistic to have a heightened sense for such > things as flickering lights or shrill electronics. The average person can > only see > >"flicker" below some frequency (can't remember what it is just now) and > the > >above average person can only here between 20 Htz and 20k Htz. There are > >individuals who can see and here better, and they are often distracted in > >learning environemnts that contain such noise. > > > > > Thank you for the information. I personally have exceptionally good > hearing but found that I can shut it down or more like totally screen my > surroundings out while I work. It usually results in me being very > concentrated, the more so, the noisier the environs I'm working in get. > People have found that it then takes a considerable amount of effort to > get my attention once I'm in that state. So I sort of use the noises > around me to focus my thoughts and become very concentrated. Something I > found totally impossible in a silent room, where I would jump at even > the slightest of sounds. You are one of millions of individuals on this planet who are lucky enough to have autistic tendencies. Use your powers of concentration wisely. Recognize those like you, and those deeper in do not suffer from a defect, they are not broken, they do not need help. well, other than help being treated as an equal in society. > >It is ridiculous to suggest that a student should wear dark red glasses > when the lighting could simply be adjusted. Especialy if the student is > autistic and is having a difficult enough time socialy anyway. > > > Reading this (and Julia's response) I feel that I have to ask if either > you or Julia for that matter read or even glanced at the sites I pointed > to? The reason I'm asking is because f.i. information like below is on > one of the sites and both your responses seem to be oddly out of sync > with this and other things mentioned there. > from http://www.read-eye.connectfree.co.uk/dyslexia.htm Once again these people are quakcs. If you contact them as a concerenc=ed parent of a shild with autism or dyslexia they will try and convince you that all your childs problems are optical and can be fixed with red glasses. > "Visual stress" is a condition that often contributes to reading > difficulties in adults and children. The condition is related to light > sensitivity in disorders such as migraine and epilepsy. It causes > distortions on the printed page when black print contrasts sharply with > a bright background. So, DONT USE FLORESENT LIGHTS, and DON'T TURN THE LIGHTS ON BRIGHT!!! Most public places have the lights on so bright and use floresets becouse they are cheeper. Somewhere along the line people bought into an old wives tale that dim lights are bad for your eyes. actuly bright lights are. No one needs dark red lenses, what they need is the lights to be turned down. > > Visual stress is often a big part of the problem in Dyslexia, No more so than it is for anyone else. remember these people use the term "Visual Dyslexia" and then drop the "visual" so that they are just saying "dyslexia" they are still not talking about the same thing. And if they are they are lying. > but can > also affect other poor readers and may cause eyestrain and headaches in > good readers. > > etc. > > <disclaimer> I didn't say, nor did I attempt to say that this in any way > applies to Jan, nor that it was _the_ solution to cure any or all > dyslexic and/or autistic people, nor did I say that every dyslexic can > become a normal reader by putting on dark red lenses, nor did I say that > every dyslexic is autistic or that every autistic person is dyslexic, or > a combination thereof. Nor did I as far as I know in any way speak > negatively about autism, reading and or other disabilities. If I did I'm > not aware of it and apologize. </disclaimer> > > I feel that I have to put in this disclaimer because the to me > apparently stingy reaction on this subject I got from Jan seemed a bit > odd and undeserved. Not when you consider the wasted money and the shot hopes of poor little dyslexic kids who are duped by quakcs who sell them on a lark about red glasses which does nothing more than make their classmates make fun of them even more than they already did. > But since I'm a benign person and have to assume that the inadvertent > connection I made between autism and dyslexia was what threw people off, > I'll try to clarify and refine my position. No, you are propogating a very serious problem. You need to rethink your position. > > What I attempted to mentioned was that there are people with sight > difficulties (i.e. specifically people with visual dyslexia, like f.i. > my mom who likes to wear yellow lenses but until now didn't know why) > that benefit from this kind of simple and cheap solution. I aspired to > deliver this (to me amazing) info together with source information and > the circumstances under which I acquired the information. Greate. Your mother has higher light sensitivity or a higher threhold for flicker frequency. so what? > In general it used to be good brin-l practice to deliver information to > the list in this form, usually resulting in nuanced replies of informed > people who have taken (tense?) the trouble to glance through the > material that the original poster pointed to. Additional surprising > information can thus be acquired and it is even possible to have a > discussion of the subject between polite, enthusiastic and inspired > people. Generally broadening the horizon of the members on this list.. > yeawell and my time is somewhat limited, nothing personal, I am just hasty and sick of these rediculous quacks and thier glases. ===== _________________________________________________ Jan William Coffey _________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
