Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Raphaël POITEVIN]

Hi Shérab,

Shérab  writes:
> Or perhaps you read books only through speech synthesis?

Yes! HTML files in Firefox. It lets me to read contituously without any
interaction. I can listen to a book and do other things for instance.

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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Devin Prater]

Thanks for letting me know that BRLTTY works with the Touch. If I can dredge up 
old emails about getting it working, and if I successfully do get it working, 
I’ll compile it all into, hopefully, an easy to follow manner and send it here.
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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Dave Mielke  wrote:
> 
> [quoted lines by Devin Prater on 2018/03/04 at 13:43 -0600]
> 
>> When BRLTTY gets a driver for the Braille note Touch, I’ll probably try 
>> compiling and running it on my Mac, if that’s still possible. 
> 
> The HumanWare driver already supports the BrailleNote Touch. Use the latest 
> brltty release (5.6) as there were some problems in earlier releases.
> 
>> There should really be an article on the BRLTTY site about that, and maybe 
>> even applications that work well with BRLTTY for doing everyday tasks, like 
>> writing and reading. 
> 
> I'll gladly accept submissions. I'll organize them into a web page, and will 
> even go through them to correct spelling, etc, but I need submissions!
> 
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Dave Mielke]

[quoted lines by Devin Prater on 2018/03/04 at 13:43 -0600]

>When BRLTTY gets a driver for the Braille note Touch, I’ll probably try 
>compiling and running it on my Mac, if that’s still possible. 

The HumanWare driver already supports the BrailleNote Touch. Use the latest 
brltty release (5.6) as there were some problems in earlier releases.

>There should really be an article on the BRLTTY site about that, and maybe 
>even applications that work well with BRLTTY for doing everyday tasks, like 
>writing and reading. 

I'll gladly accept submissions. I'll organize them into a web page, and will 
even go through them to correct spelling, etc, but I need submissions!

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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[John Covici]

For emacs, there is a whole customization for saving places, as well
as bookmarks.  It saves your whole desktop including places in all
your buffers.  To put in read only mode its c-x-q. or to visit a file
in read only mode its c-x-r.

On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 14:22:35 -0500,
Devin Prater wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> [1.1  ]
> [1.2  ]
> [1.2.1  ]
> John, how do you have Emacs remember your place in a book? Do you use EWW or 
> something else, or just have it in a text file, converted with Pandoc or 
> something? I’m assuming you put the file in read only mode, I forget how this 
> is done
> but know its possible, and simply do space or C-v to scroll the window?
> Devin Prater
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> *
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> 
>  On Mar 4, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Shérab  wrote:
> 
>  Thanks a lot for your feedback, John!
> 
>  So, when you get a book in HTML or epub or whatever, you convert it to
>  text?
> 
>  Best wishes,
> 
>  Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Devin Prater]

Oh, thanks. When BRLTTY gets a driver for the Braille note Touch, I’ll probably 
try compiling and running it on my Mac, if that’s still possible. There should 
really be an article on the BRLTTY site about that, and maybe even applications 
that work well with BRLTTY for doing everyday tasks, like writing and reading. 
I know, all CLI apps should work, but some work better than others for tasks.
Devin Prater
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> On Mar 4, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Shérab  wrote:
> 
> I think it's thanks to Emacs' desktop that the positions in files are
> remembered.
> 
> Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[John Covici]

Well, for those, I may do that, or read with speech on a computer that
can do the web better than linux on the console.  I also use the
iphone for a lot of such things, since I can hook up the Braille
display to the iphone via Bluetooth.

On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 13:39:12 -0500,
Shérab wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot for your feedback, John!
> 
> So, when you get a book in HTML or epub or whatever, you convert it to
> text?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Shérab]

I think it's thanks to Emacs' desktop that the positions in files are
remembered.

Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Devin Prater]

John, how do you have Emacs remember your place in a book? Do you use EWW or 
something else, or just have it in a text file, converted with Pandoc or 
something? I’m assuming you put the file in read only mode, I forget how this 
is done but know its possible, and simply do space or C-v to scroll the window?
Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World 
Services for the Blind

> On Mar 4, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Shérab  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot for your feedback, John!
> 
> So, when you get a book in HTML or epub or whatever, you convert it to
> text?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Shérab]

Thanks a lot for your feedback, John!

So, when you get a book in HTML or epub or whatever, you convert it to
text?

Best wishes,

Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Shérab]

Dear Arthur,

Many thanks for your interesting response! You did send it only to me
personnally so I quote it below so that everybody can read it and then I
reply, below.

Arthur BREUNEVAL (2018/03/04 19:12 +0100):
> Hello Shérab,
> I personally read books in TXT format, with the internal editor of my
> device (Esytime, or Iris before). When I want to stop my reading, I
> simply put the device in hibernate mode, so I can restart when I want
> and at the same position I left. My device has an automatic reading
> mode, so it can move the Braille yindow with a certain time shift you
> can set, but I prefer to move it manually, since I'm not absolutely
> constant when I'm reading. Some lines need more time to be read, I don't
> want to impose a rythm to my reading, it is the book that does it.
> 
> Except for technical books, or even for books that don't count a story
> (like novels), that I can read with the speech synthesis, this is always
> the method I use.

I am not found of automatic reading mode, for the reasons you explain.
Even with a device that can detect my fingers and ajust the speed to
thier position, I think I would prefer not having the device move the
text without me deciding.

I think it's too bad there is no free software to read books in braille
in a comfortable way, would really be a nice thing to have, IMO.

Best wishes,

Shérab.
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Re: [BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[John Covici]

I use emacs, which of course saves your place.  I do have to hit
something when I get to the bottom of the page -- I wish the cursor
would follow the brltty window, but other than that, it works well.  I
am using a Humanware Brailliant 40 cell.

On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 12:17:48 -0500,
Shérab wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I am wondering what you guys find most comfortable to read books in text
> formats. Perhaps the first question could be which file format do you
> prefer? And then, which tool do you use to read it? Is it less, a text
> editor, lynx, or perhaps the internal tools of your notetakers?
> 
> What do you find most comfortable for long reading sessions and are you
> trying to achieve continuous reading (that is, you don't have to do
> anything special to update the screen?).
> 
> Also, does your solution provide a way to keep track of your position
> between your reading sesions?
> 
> Or perhaps you read books only through speech synthesis?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Shérab.
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[BRLTTY] How doyou read books?

[Shérab]

Dear all,

I am wondering what you guys find most comfortable to read books in text
formats. Perhaps the first question could be which file format do you
prefer? And then, which tool do you use to read it? Is it less, a text
editor, lynx, or perhaps the internal tools of your notetakers?

What do you find most comfortable for long reading sessions and are you
trying to achieve continuous reading (that is, you don't have to do
anything special to update the screen?).

Also, does your solution provide a way to keep track of your position
between your reading sesions?

Or perhaps you read books only through speech synthesis?

All the best,

Shérab.
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