Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
Dan Eble d...@faithful.be writes:
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
Dan Eble dan at faithful.be writes:
So what do you expect for
{ \hide c'' e''4 }
Stem or no stem?
Good question. In that context, hiding just the head would not surprise me.
But then what about {\hide c''4}? Nothing seems to be hidden in
that case.
Because an EventChord does not even have a glyph. It's just a container
for NoteEvent events and articulations. You can tweak a chord all you
like and it will never make a difference.
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Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
Dan Eble dan at faithful.be writes:
So what do you expect for
{ \hide c'' e''4 }
Stem or no stem?
Good question. In that context, hiding just the head would not surprise me.
But then what about {\hide c''4}? Nothing seems to be hidden in that case.
I might add that
{ \single\hide Stem c'' g''4 }
hides the Stem (since its cause points to the c'' NoteHead) while
{ c'' \single\hide Stem g''4 }
doesn't hide it (since its cause points to the c'' NoteHead).
So it's somewhat tricky to derive a consistent behavior here.
Clearly (now). I'm not personally very bothered by this because I haven't
found an important reason to use \hide, but I do feel sorry for people trying
to figure out how it works.
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Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
Dan Eble d...@faithful.be writes:
On Apr 7, 2015, at 00:23 , Pierre Perol-Schneider
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-04-07 3:35 GMT+02:00 Dan Eble d...@faithful.be
mailto:d...@faithful.be:
% Is this supposed to leave a stem showing?
\version 2.19.17
\hide c''4
Yes, because equivalent to:
\version 2.19.17
{
\tweak transparent ##t c''4
}
(AFAIK)
Equivalence doesn’t really answer the question. Why would a
transparent C have a stem?
So what do you expect for
{ \hide c'' e''4 }
Stem or no stem?
I might add that
{ \single\hide Stem c'' g''4 }
hides the Stem (since its cause points to the c'' NoteHead) while
{ c'' \single\hide Stem g''4 }
doesn't hide it (since its cause points to the c'' NoteHead).
So it's somewhat tricky to derive a consistent behavior here.
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Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com writes:
Hi Dan
2015-04-07 3:35 GMT+02:00 Dan Eble d...@faithful.be:
% Is this supposed to leave a stem showing?
\version 2.19.17
\hide c''4
Yes, because equivalent to:
\version 2.19.17
{
\tweak transparent ##t c''4
}
It would be fairly straightforward to let stem transparency (and
possibly color) be derived from the transparency of its parent notehead.
However, the parent notehead is not particularly well-defined for
chords. So the stem is not really a good target for tweaks: using
overrides here seems like the safer choice.
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Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
On Apr 7, 2015, at 00:23 , Pierre Perol-Schneider
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-04-07 3:35 GMT+02:00 Dan Eble d...@faithful.be
mailto:d...@faithful.be:
% Is this supposed to leave a stem showing?
\version 2.19.17
\hide c''4
Yes, because equivalent to:
\version 2.19.17
{
\tweak transparent ##t c''4
}
(AFAIK)
Equivalence doesn’t really answer the question. Why would a transparent C have
a stem?
—
Dan
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Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
Am 07.04.2015 um 23:43 schrieb Dan Eble:
On Apr 7, 2015, at 00:23 , Pierre Perol-Schneider
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-04-07 3:35 GMT+02:00 Dan Eble d...@faithful.be mailto:d...@faithful.be:
% Is this supposed to leave a stem showing?
\version 2.19.17
\hide c''4
Yes, because equivalent to:
\version 2.19.17
{
\tweak transparent ##t c''4
}
(AFAIK)
Equivalence doesn’t really answer the question. Why would a transparent C have
a stem?
Well, I think it’s rather a question of syntax: by definition, a tweak
before a note refers to the note head, else you’d have to explicitly
give a grob name, as is custom with \hide:
\hide Stem \hide c''4
Or use \hideNotes c''4 \unHideNotes, which would be the more obvious
choice here.
And: I’m sure that there are situations in which people would want a
note without a note head. Only personally I’d probably not have thought
of omitting the grob name to go with \hide… :-)
Yours, Simon
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Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
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Re: \hide c4 hides note head only
Hi Dan
2015-04-07 3:35 GMT+02:00 Dan Eble d...@faithful.be:
% Is this supposed to leave a stem showing?
\version 2.19.17
\hide c''4
Yes, because equivalent to:
\version 2.19.17
{
\tweak transparent ##t c''4
}
(AFAIK)
Cheers,
Pierre
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