Re: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[Scott Medbury via BVARC]

The incoming QSL bureau just sent me my last envelope. I too, need to
replenish.

73 ... Scott KD5FBA

On Thu, May 18, 2023, 6:26 AM Chris Medlin via BVARC 
wrote:

> If I want even a domestic QSL card from someone, I send them a SASE.
> Especially if its from a place I need, I want to knock down any barriers
> that keep that from happening.
>
> From time to time when I lived In Tennessee, I received a SASE and $1USD
> from foreign county hunters who desperately needed my county. There werent
> many hams in that one.
>
> Your email has also reminded me that my QSL Bureau has run out of my
> envelopes. I need to get that back on my to do list.
> If anyone is interested in that, its w5incomingbureau.net
>
> 73/Chris
> AC5CM
>
> Typos brought to you by iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2023, at 05:37, Shannon Tassin via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> All,
>
>
>
> As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more
> routinely coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At
> first it was folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g.,
> Rwanda), but now I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.
>
>
>
> Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shannon Tassin
>
> K4SCT
>
>
> 
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[Scott Medbury via BVARC]

Coleman 220e gas lantern. In box.

$25.00

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For the DX commander lover's,

DX Engineering will sell DX commander for the US market. 

 



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Re: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[Scott Medbury via BVARC]

Often because of the cost of postage a DX station will request "green
stamps". International postage from the US is about $1.40 to send them a
card. If you use clublog, you can send a request and use PayPal.  All of
this is part of the reason why so many including myself use LOTW to get
confirmation.

You can also use the outgoing ARRL qsl bureau.

73 de Scott KD5FBA

On Thu, May 18, 2023, 5:38 AM Shannon Tassin via BVARC 
wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more
> routinely coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At
> first it was folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g.,
> Rwanda), but now I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.
>
>
>
> Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shannon Tassin
>
> K4SCT
>
>
> 
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>
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Re: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[M Reiter via BVARC]

I am a very new ham, I have been reading and listening to this upset for
awhile, which is remarkable given my newness,  so I assume it is very
upsetting for many people.   I believe that the contests and award agencies
should not require the qrz log confirmation.   not everyone has an account
with them   if a ham loggs a contact that should be enough and it should be
assumed that there was a QSO.   if a ham chooses to falsify a QSO well then
they live with that deceit. maybe if you set up a contest among QRZ or ARRL
members and you want to force them to only talk to each other and require
their log confirmation that would just be a particular contest rule.  in
general for things like DXCC  or other awards that include the public then
requiring confirmation just causes upset when you have to get more contacts
that the award specifies to account for people that have not logged to a
specific log service.
my $.02  as a know nothing new oinker.
Marc.

On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 6:22 AM Shannon Tassin via BVARC 
wrote:

> Thanks Orin.
>
>
>
> However, I am not looking for a paper or mailed QSL card. I just want them
> to confirm my contact on QRZ, Clublog, or LoTW. It still seems they want
> money for that.
>
>
>
> *From: *orin snook 
> *Date: *Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 6:14 AM
> *To: *Roy Storey via BVARC 
> *Cc: *Shannon Tassin 
> *Subject: *Re: Charging for QSL?
>
> Shannon,
>
>
>
> Common practice following rising postal rates.
>
>
>
> Cards started out as real post cards, then got fancy with color
> photography+. In order to keep them pristine, mailing in an envelope became
> customary, drawing even more postage.
>
>
>
> When in Indonesia, it was common for me to receive their QSL card with a
> self addressed envelope enclosed with a dollar, real stamps or a “green
> stamp” (that was killed years ago) – an international postal unit of value
> about two thirds of the time. Motivated me to respond in stellar fashion.
> Started a significant stamp collection.
>
>
>
> With large numbers, gets to be a real job, often farmed out to QSL
> Managers, hence the drive toward different e-QSL verifications of contacts
> “chasing paper”.
>
>
>
> 73 & GL in contest
>
>
>
> KB5F
>
> Orin Snook
>
> Ex YC0ARO, YC8ABV
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* BVARC  on behalf of Shannon Tassin via
> BVARC 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2023 5:37 AM
> *To:* Roy Storey via BVARC 
> *Cc:* Shannon Tassin 
> *Subject:* [BVARC] Charging for QSL?
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more
> routinely coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At
> first it was folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g.,
> Rwanda), but now I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.
>
>
>
> Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shannon Tassin
>
> K4SCT
>
>
> 
> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>
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Re: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[orin snook via BVARC]

Then I would consider that borderline “pecuniary” and a tilt of the genteel 
service of hams promoting international good will and would vote appropriately 
with not sending them my PayPal.



73,

KB5F


From: Shannon Tassin 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 6:21 AM
To: orin snook ; Roy Storey via BVARC 
Subject: Re: Charging for QSL?


Thanks Orin.



However, I am not looking for a paper or mailed QSL card. I just want them to 
confirm my contact on QRZ, Clublog, or LoTW. It still seems they want money for 
that.



From: orin snook 
Date: Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 6:14 AM
To: Roy Storey via BVARC 
Cc: Shannon Tassin 
Subject: Re: Charging for QSL?

Shannon,



Common practice following rising postal rates.



Cards started out as real post cards, then got fancy with color photography+. 
In order to keep them pristine, mailing in an envelope became customary, 
drawing even more postage.



When in Indonesia, it was common for me to receive their QSL card with a self 
addressed envelope enclosed with a dollar, real stamps or a “green stamp” (that 
was killed years ago) – an international postal unit of value about two thirds 
of the time. Motivated me to respond in stellar fashion. Started a significant 
stamp collection.



With large numbers, gets to be a real job, often farmed out to QSL Managers, 
hence the drive toward different e-QSL verifications of contacts “chasing 
paper”.



73 & GL in contest



KB5F

Orin Snook

Ex YC0ARO, YC8ABV





From: BVARC  on behalf of Shannon Tassin via BVARC 

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 5:37 AM
To: Roy Storey via BVARC 
Cc: Shannon Tassin 
Subject: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?



All,



As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more routinely 
coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At first it was 
folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g., Rwanda), but now 
I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.



Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?



Thanks,

Shannon Tassin

K4SCT



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Re: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[Chris Medlin via BVARC]

If I want even a domestic QSL card from someone, I send them a SASE. 
Especially if its from a place I need, I want to knock down any barriers that 
keep that from happening.

From time to time when I lived In Tennessee, I received a SASE and $1USD from 
foreign county hunters who desperately needed my county. There werent many hams 
in that one.

Your email has also reminded me that my QSL Bureau has run out of my envelopes. 
I need to get that back on my to do list.
If anyone is interested in that, its w5incomingbureau.net

73/Chris
AC5CM

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On May 18, 2023, at 05:37, Shannon Tassin via BVARC  wrote:


All,

As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more routinely 
coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At first it was 
folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g., Rwanda), but now 
I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.

Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?

Thanks,
Shannon Tassin
K4SCT


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Re: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[Shannon Tassin via BVARC]

Thanks Orin.

However, I am not looking for a paper or mailed QSL card. I just want them to 
confirm my contact on QRZ, Clublog, or LoTW. It still seems they want money for 
that.

From: orin snook 
Date: Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 6:14 AM
To: Roy Storey via BVARC 
Cc: Shannon Tassin 
Subject: Re: Charging for QSL?

Shannon,



Common practice following rising postal rates.



Cards started out as real post cards, then got fancy with color photography+. 
In order to keep them pristine, mailing in an envelope became customary, 
drawing even more postage.



When in Indonesia, it was common for me to receive their QSL card with a self 
addressed envelope enclosed with a dollar, real stamps or a “green stamp” (that 
was killed years ago) – an international postal unit of value about two thirds 
of the time. Motivated me to respond in stellar fashion. Started a significant 
stamp collection.



With large numbers, gets to be a real job, often farmed out to QSL Managers, 
hence the drive toward different e-QSL verifications of contacts “chasing 
paper”.



73 & GL in contest



KB5F

Orin Snook

Ex YC0ARO, YC8ABV


From: BVARC  on behalf of Shannon Tassin via BVARC 

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 5:37 AM
To: Roy Storey via BVARC 
Cc: Shannon Tassin 
Subject: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?


All,



As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more routinely 
coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At first it was 
folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g., Rwanda), but now 
I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.



Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?



Thanks,

Shannon Tassin

K4SCT



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Re: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[orin snook via BVARC]

Shannon,



Common practice following rising postal rates.



Cards started out as real post cards, then got fancy with color photography+. 
In order to keep them pristine, mailing in an envelope became customary, 
drawing even more postage.



When in Indonesia, it was common for me to receive their QSL card with a self 
addressed envelope enclosed with a dollar, real stamps or a “green stamp” (that 
was killed years ago) – an international postal unit of value about two thirds 
of the time. Motivated me to respond in stellar fashion. Started a significant 
stamp collection.



With large numbers, gets to be a real job, often farmed out to QSL Managers, 
hence the drive toward different e-QSL verifications of contacts “chasing 
paper”.



73 & GL in contest



KB5F

Orin Snook

Ex YC0ARO, YC8ABV


From: BVARC  on behalf of Shannon Tassin via BVARC 

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 5:37 AM
To: Roy Storey via BVARC 
Cc: Shannon Tassin 
Subject: [BVARC] Charging for QSL?


All,



As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more routinely 
coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At first it was 
folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g., Rwanda), but now 
I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.



Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?



Thanks,

Shannon Tassin

K4SCT



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[BVARC] Charging for QSL?

[Shannon Tassin via BVARC]

All,

As I am working to connect with more countries via FT8, I am more routinely 
coming across folks who want me to pay them money for a QSL. At first it was 
folks who were working from a remote country or island (e.g., Rwanda), but now 
I am seeing that from a guy in Israel.

Is this accepted and expected behavior? Why would I do that?

Thanks,
Shannon Tassin
K4SCT


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